Thai voters give military marching orders in election rebuff : Tim Newton Today - May 15

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Thailand has voted in the 2023 election and a progressive, new party has emerged as the winners in an election that gave the military their marching orders.The votes have been cast but weeks of negotiations will be required to form a new government with the military-backed Senate playing a key role in the election of a new Prime Minister. Anything is possible.

 

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[spidermike007]

The army must surrender those 250 seats. Those senators are now toxic, corrupt, unjust, unfair, unnecessary, and simply a reminder of the days of draconian leadership, the army over extending their reach, and worst of all they make a statement of the lack of a real democracy. 

 

If Prayuth is the least bit sincere about his willingness to give up power, the constitution must be re-written, and those goons must resign. 

 

Otherwise, it is all a nasty charade. 

[torturedsole]

Marching orders, my butt.

 

Let's see what happens.

[scorecard]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The army must surrender those 250 seats. Those senators are now toxic, corrupt, unjust, unfair, unnecessary, and simply a reminder of the days of draconian leadership, the army over extending their reach, and worst of all they make a statement of the lack of a real democracy. 

 

If Prayuth is the least bit sincere about his willingness to give up power, the constitution must be re-written, and those goons must resign. 

 

Otherwise, it is all a nasty charade. 

Nice points, however globally many countries seem to have more balance by having 2 houses. If Thailand wants to have 2 houes then:

 

- Quickly the current senate set-up should be cancelled, abolished, and therefore the members are removed.

- Proper valid elections arranged and monitored by the Thailand Electoral Commission for all seats in a newly structured senate. 

 

So should the votes of the current senators be included to decide a new PM?

 

Or...

 

So what happens next?

 

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2023 by scorecard

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

Nice points, however globally many countries seem to have more balance by having 2 houses. If Thailand wants to have 2 houes then:

 

- Quickly the current senate set-up should be cancelled, abolished, and therefore the members are removed.

- Proper valid elections arranged and monitored by the Thailand Electoral Commission for all seats in a newly structured senate. 

 

So should the votes of the current senators be included to decide a new PM?

 

Or...

 

So what happens next?

 

 

 

 

Absolutely not. The current army appointed senators are as illegitimate as they could possibly be. They need to be ousted with a vengeance, and they need to be outed, and forced to live lives of shame, on the margins of society. 

[scorecard]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Absolutely not. The current army appointed senators are as illegitimate as they could possibly be. They need to be ousted with a vengeance, and they need to be outed, and forced to live lives of shame, on the margins of society. 

I don't disagree at all.

 

My coment was about:

 

1. What happens immediately (re the current 'senate' situation') to decide a new PM and get the new PM legally in place and working.

 

2. What happens re the future; does Thailand wants to have 2 houses? And if so how would the 'senate' be selected? Hopefully by:

• A proper legal process bound in law with various limits, including family clans not allowed.
• Elections organized and monitored by the Thailand Election Commission.
• A fixed terms (say 4 years) which expires on a cycle which is 'opposite' to the lower house time period/elections. 

Your thoughts?

Edited May 16, 2023 by scorecard

[Artisi]

22 minutes ago, scorecard said:

I don't disagree at all.

 

My coment was about:

 

1. What happens immediately (re the current 'senate' situation') to decide a new PM and get the new PM legally in place and working.

 

2. What happens re the future; does Thailand wants to have 2 houses? And if so how would the 'senate' be selected? Hopefully by:

• A proper legal process bound in law with various limits, including family clans not allowed.
• Elections organized and monitored by the Thailand Election Commission.
• A fixed terms (say 4 years) which expires on a cycle which is 'opposite' to the lower house time period/elections. 

Your thoughts?

The prime minister should be elected by the members of the ruling government, probably in this case a coalition government, as is normal in many democratic countries. 

[spidermike007]

7 hours ago, scorecard said:

I don't disagree at all.

 

My coment was about:

 

1. What happens immediately (re the current 'senate' situation') to decide a new PM and get the new PM legally in place and working.

 

2. What happens re the future; does Thailand wants to have 2 houses? And if so how would the 'senate' be selected? Hopefully by:

• A proper legal process bound in law with various limits, including family clans not allowed.
• Elections organized and monitored by the Thailand Election Commission.
• A fixed terms (say 4 years) which expires on a cycle which is 'opposite' to the lower house time period/elections. 

Your thoughts?

The current senate army mafia expires next year. So, hopefully it will be settled then. 

 

Hopefully, they can work something out now, and the illegitimate senate will behave. If they don't, anything is possible, and it won't be pretty.