sometime Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Fillable forms I have just downloaded and completed the TM 7 PDF fillable form for immigration, it completes in bold black. Now a friend says the form must be hand written in blue ink, is this correct. Thanks 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dingdongrb Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just like most everything else, it depends on the IO, the officer you are dealing with, the mood of that officer, and the phase the moon is in at that time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post couchpotato Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 Why not download the blank form, and also write the form in blue ink. Hand the fillable form in first, and if he/she wants it handwritten, then swap them over. In that way you'll know for next time, and also let the forum know. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdongrb Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, couchpotato said: Why not download the blank form, and also write the form in blue ink. Hand the fillable form in first, and if he/she wants it handwritten, then swap them over. In that way you'll know for next time, and also let the forum know. Sadly it doesn't work that way. The next time it would probably be a different officer in a different mood. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couchpotato Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, dingdongrb said: Sadly it doesn't work that way. The next time it would probably be a different officer in a different mood. Why not?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CharlieH Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 Seldom any consistency. Just because one did, doesn't mean another will. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Find these reoccurring threads re fillable forms and blue v black pens ridiculous. Either download form and spend a minute to fill in form. And yes use Blue pen (just in case) OR next time you visit immigration pick up hand full of each form. TM7, TM8, TM47 etc. Not difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Plern Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, couchpotato said: that way you'll know for next time, Surely, you jest. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alanrchase Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 I print off the filled in form and sign it in blue ink. Never had a problem. The previous threads I have read on here all concerned the ink colour for the signature. Some people said there was an issue when they signed with black ink. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Pattatya IO hand filled blue ink FWIW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 12 hours ago, DrJack54 said: Find these reoccurring threads re fillable forms and blue v black pens ridiculous. What many find ridiculous is that they dictate what colour ink is used. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya57 Posted May 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2023 50 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: What many find ridiculous is that they dictate what colour ink is used. There is a simple explanation. With a blue pen signature it is easy to see the form is an original, whereas a signature in black pen is easy to mistake as a photocopy. My work had the exact same rule so it's not just a Thailand IO thing 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lordgrinz Posted May 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2023 I store everything in PDF files, using PDF software (create your own fillable forms from scanned documents) to enter/edit anything I need to, just a matter of printing everything off before I head over there, I use laser printer (black ink cartridge), and I sign everything in blue ink. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said: whereas a signature in black pen is easy to mistake as a photocopy. If you have a colour scanner/printer. the signature, and everything else will come out whatever it was on the original, and be very difficult to tell one from the other. I dealt with a pension Company in UK who wanted a 'wet signature' on certain papers. I explained that post from Thailand could take uo to 3 weeks, and so emailed the documents to them together with the proof of posting. They executed the paperwork within days. Can they REALLY tell if something is actually signed by looking for indentations in the paper from the pen, which would not occur if a fountain pen was used. And do they have a cryptologist to verify that the signature on every signed paper corresponds to the one you submitted to them possible 20 years ago. NO! Edited May 18, 2023 by KannikaP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdongrb Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 52 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said: There is a simple explanation. With a blue pen signature it is easy to see the form is an original, whereas a signature in black pen is easy to mistake as a photocopy. My work had the exact same rule so it's not just a Thailand IO thing I no longer have it, but I used to have a color laser printer where it was extremely difficult to tell a copy from the original even with different colored inks were used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdongrb Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, KannikaP said: If you have a colour scanner/printer. the signature, and everything else will come out whatever it was on the original, and be very difficult to tell one from the other. Exactly! The only way I was able to tell my daughter's original birth certificate from a copy I made was to feel for the embossed seal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee2 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On my last extension at Surin IM, I summited the auto-filled forms, but during the signature signing process I noticed the IM officer had replaced them with his own hand-filled forms. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickp Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Been down loading TM 7 since it place on IMO web page as download form. Fill in on PC and sign in Blue ink, been here 32 years lived in the same house IMO CW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problemfarang Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 to OP's question: yes, it must be blue ink. the reason for this is black will make it look like its not original but copy. red is used for corrections or attention by the IO. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 I just use the blue pens at immigration desks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy99 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 18 hours ago, DrJack54 said: Find these reoccurring threads re fillable forms and blue v black pens ridiculous. Either download form and spend a minute to fill in form. And yes use Blue pen (just in case) OR next time you visit immigration pick up hand full of each form. TM7, TM8, TM47 etc. Not difficult. Most countries demand black ink on legal documents. Just saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 I recently created my own TM7 fillable document. It was filled in in bold black characters and signed with a black pen.. This was at Ratchaburi Immigration.. Make sure you print on one side only, they dont want double sided prints.. As usual, different offices have different requirements.. P.S. I printed the photos directly on the page, and that was OK.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Brock said: Make sure you print on one side only, they dont want double sided prints.. Even though the ones you pick up at Immigration are two-sided? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetphet Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 If filling in on your computer, just make sure that you have the latest version for your particular immigration office. Just as each office has their own requirements, I don't think it is a nationwide standard form, but I might be wrong. Our local one makes slight changes every so often, then refuses to accept the previous form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalbanana Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/17/2023 at 7:35 PM, sometime said: I have just downloaded and completed the TM 7 PDF fillable form for immigration, it completes in bold black. Surely it depends what "it' is? On my computer "it" is Adobe Acrobat and the form fills in on screen using whatever color text you choose to type in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woof999 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, phetphet said: If filling in on your computer, just make sure that you have the latest version for your particular immigration office. Just as each office has their own requirements, I don't think it is a nationwide standard form, but I might be wrong. Our local one makes slight changes every so often, then refuses to accept the previous form. Correct. Last year I downloaded my TM7 from the official Thai Immigration website. Got to Jomtien IO and was told it was the wrong version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 How often does anyone do a TM7? Is it REALLY worth worrying about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Brock said: Make sure you print on one side only, they dont want double sided prints.. That is rare. Most immigration offices would reject a double sided form printed as two pages. I suggest folk ignore this advice from post I quoted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 In so many ways (and immigration in particular), this place is so insanely ridiculous. SMFH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimewoodworker Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/18/2023 at 3:24 PM, problemfarang said: to OP's question: yes, it must be blue ink. the reason for this is black will make it look like its not original but copy. red is used for corrections or attention by the IO. You are incorrect. I have printed my TM7 forms using black toner for years, the signature was usually in blue but I have used black. The signature and photograph are original, though quite possibly a printed full colour photo would also be acceptable. Since my forms are all printed is is absolutely clear that they are exact copies. There may be an office or official who has an issue this will be unusual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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