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American transwoman marries Thai woman, fueling hopes for future of same sex marriage (video)

 

Please keep it civil.

 

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3 hours ago, Plern said:

Two women, zero vaginas.

 

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And you “know” this how ? 

1 hour ago, Justme2012 said:

The attack on the Transgender community is completely unfounded , the side issues re;

1. sports … if the transgender female begins hormone treatment before puberty builds her body like a male then I see zero problem with them participating in sports.

and the main issue with transgender women participating is sports started with an American woman competing in swimming events even though she was beaten every time by cis gender women ????

2. Restroom issues… there has never been a  attack from a transgender woman in a woman’s restroom “ever” in the USA soooo what’s the issue? Paranoid men !

 

the reason I post the laughing ???? emoji so many times is because it’s humorous that the trolls love to argue an uneducated point . 

                   For gods Sake.. other than in the extremely rare cases of congenital birth defects ie hermaphrodites and such like there is absolutely no way on god's earth that anybody should be allowed hormone treatments or puberty blockers or anything else of a similar nature at a pre pubescent age. Any doctor involved in such practices should be struck off and locked up

               Jesus we don't even allow under 18's to get tattoos as they are considered to young to appreciate the life changing permanency of disfiguring themselves

               What on earth are you advocating, to me and any other rightminded person it is just wrong

                If you consider that makes me a troll I really don't care. There is something very worrying about you

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

An LGBTQ flag was burned at an elementary school in Southern California this month ahead of a Pride event, and police are investigating the incident as a hate crime

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/lgbtq-flag-burned-california-elementary-school-ahead-pride-event-rcna87083

As far as I am concerned a LGBT flag has no more place at an elementary school than a porno mag or indeed a transvestite or any other trans type

lol I know they say  size doesn't matter but the flag was 6" x 4"  

"There are no suspects in custody at this time,"  I should hope not too!

Considering the other events that are all to common in American schools this really is the least of their worries

6 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

hahahaha a profession are you serious ???   what's the job description

What about a trans man who identifies as a eunuch  or a trans woman who identifies as such

stop making me laugh

 

eunuch (n.)

"castrated man," late 14c., eunuk, from Latin eunuchus, from Greek eunoukhos "castrated man," originally "guard of the bedchamber or harem," from euno-, combining form of eune "bed," a word of unknown origin, + -okhos, from stem of ekhein "to have, hold" (from PIE root *segh- "to hold").

 

And you cant have a man watching over women with his genitals intact. Otherwise the rich man could have bastard kids.

Of course I checked before saying so.

A transgender woman has no penis anymore, they constructed a vagina out of the penis, is on female hormones, has boobs and behave as woman.

Being that, but also applies for man and women, then you still can be placed in the many boxes of sexuality and that is another thing.

There are quite some boxes about sexuality.

21 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

As far as I am concerned a LGBT flag has no more place at an elementary school than a porno mag or indeed a transvestite or any other trans type

lol I know they say  size doesn't matter but the flag was 6" x 4"  

"There are no suspects in custody at this time,"  I should hope not too!

Considering the other events that are all to common in American schools this really is the least of their worries

A rainbow flag is like porn huh?

No it isn't.

 

So it sounds like you don't believe LGBT people should be allowed to be teachers.

 

Back to the past.

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7 hours ago, stoner said:

the story only states that hormones were taken. no where does it say that the person in question had surgery. 

 

 

transgender woman says it all. A ladyboy is not (yet) a transgender woman. Maybe some ladyboys want to be, but it will cost you.

They can make vagina's of your penis and also you could climax, but it will cost you.

Also the other way around, becoming a transgender man, then they create a penis for you. It is all possible. 

1 minute ago, xtrnuno41 said:

transgender woman says it all. A ladyboy is not (yet) a transgender woman. Maybe some ladyboys want to be, but it will cost you.

They can make vagina's of your penis and also you could climax, but it will cost you.

Also the other way around, becoming a transgender man, then they create a penis for you. It is all possible. 

No.

A ladyboy might be transgender if they identify as a woman regardless of what they have done in the way of medical acts.

Not all obviously. 

Some.

I have no idea what percentage. 

2 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

transgender woman says it all. A ladyboy is not (yet) a transgender woman. Maybe some ladyboys want to be, but it will cost you.

They can make vagina's of your penis and also you could climax, but it will cost you.

Also the other way around, becoming a transgender man, then they create a penis for you. It is all possible. 

Some "transgender women" still have a penis apparently, and some ladyboys do not,  the terms "transwoman" and "ladyboy" are totally synonymous, regardless of the sensitivities attached to such terms

They don't actually "create" a penis or a vagina merely a very poor imitation. it is not yet possible to create a proper fully functional working model of either and it is unlikely they ever will

25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

A rainbow flag is like porn huh?

No it isn't.

 

So it sounds like you don't believe LGBT people should be allowed to be teachers.

 

Back to the past.

No a rainbow flag is obviously not pornographic, that is not what I said at all. However, like porn, it is not appropriate for young kids to be exposed to what it currently represents either.

I actually  have no issues with gay or lesbian teachers, their sexuality is of no issue as long as they keep it away from the class room , same goes for hetrosexuals too of course, but a demonstration by LGBT "activists" is in my opinion inappropriate for young kids 

Whatever happened to childhood innocence

Edited June 11, 20233 yr by Bday Prang

18 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

transgender woman says it all. A ladyboy is not (yet) a transgender woman. Maybe some ladyboys want to be, but it will cost you.

They can make vagina's of your penis and also you could climax, but it will cost you.

Also the other way around, becoming a transgender man, then they create a penis for you. It is all possible. 

They can make a wooden leg for the victims of bomb explosions but its hardly a rival for the real thing!

14 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

No a rainbow flag is obviously not pornographic, that is not what I said at all. However, like porn, it is not appropriate for young kids to be exposed to what it currently represents either.

I actually  have no issues with gay or lesbian teachers, their sexuality is of no issue as long as they keep it away from the class room , same goes for hetrosexuals too of course, but a demonstration by LGBT "activists" is in my opinion inappropriate for young kids 

Whatever happened to childhood innocence

If you're not American I understand why you don't get it.

In the US grade school teachers usually share the status of their relationship lives  with students.

Single dating engaged married with children etc 

If they don't it's suspicious. 

Kids aren't dumb. They figure out if a teacher is gay even if closeted.

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7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If you're not American I understand why you don't get it.

In the US grade school teachers usually share the status of their relationship lives  with students.

Single dating engaged married with children etc 

If they don't it's suspicious. 

Kids aren't dumb. They figure out if a teacher is gay even if closeted.

In grade school, it was a country school central Ca and the teachers shared nothing about their after school, personal life. It never crossed anyone's mind if anyone was gay. In High School the same, no info given about home life from teachers. As for thee students, I don't recall any talk of gay students. 

 

But of course this doesn't fit your narrative.

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

In grade school, it was a country school central Ca and the teachers shared nothing about their after school, personal life. It never crossed anyone's mind if anyone was gay. In High School the same, no info given about home life from teachers. As for thee students, I don't recall any talk of gay students. 

 

But of course this doesn't fit your narrative.

Sounds atypical. 

 

Also with female teachers which are most common in elementary schools Miss or Mrs says a lot.

Edited June 11, 20233 yr by Jingthing

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If you're not American I understand why you don't get it.

In the US grade school teachers usually share the status of their relationship lives  with students.

Single dating engaged married with children etc 

Kids aren't dumb. They figure out if a teacher is gay even if closeted.

                    I'm not american I'm British and yes I don't get it.  Through out my entire school life I don't remember one teacher ever discussing their private lives with us pupils, their domestic situation was / is totally irrelevant to their job The same goes for any occupation in my opinion. If they did for any reason need to mention a "partner" it should be left at that "a partner"  absolutely no need to go into any more detail whatsoever

                   Of course kids are not stupid we all (thought we)  knew which ones were gay , and which ones were to be kept away from even though back then we had never even  heard of the word paedophile

                    There has always been, at least as long as I can remember , an established convention of not exposing young kids to matters of a sexual nature, many people, quite rightly express concerns about what kids can see on the internet 

                     Is it really necessary to expose kids to all that the rainbow flag really stands for, in some cases  before they have even got to grips with  the basics of  reproduction?  Seems to me all this exposure holds the risk of sexualising children , something that used to be considered inappropriate by most hetrosexual and gay people people. Has something changed or am i just getting old

                    

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

                    I'm not american I'm British and yes I don't get it.  Through out my entire school life I don't remember one teacher ever discussing their private lives with us pupils, their domestic situation was / is totally irrelevant to their job The same goes for any occupation in my opinion. If they did for any reason need to mention a "partner" it should be left at that "a partner"  absolutely no need to go into any more detail whatsoever

                   Of course kids are not stupid we all (thought we)  knew which ones were gay , and which ones were to be kept away from even though back then we had never even  heard of the word paedophile

                    There has always been, at least as long as I can remember , an established convention of not exposing young kids to matters of a sexual nature, many people, quite rightly express concerns about what kids can see on the internet 

                     Is it really necessary to expose kids to all that the rainbow flag really stands for, in some cases  before they have even got to grips with  the basics of  reproduction?  Seems to me all this exposure holds the risk of sexualising children , something that used to be considered inappropriate by most hetrosexual and gay people people. Has something changed or am i just getting old

                    

So teaching children that the only people in the world are cisgender hetero men and women is not sexualizing children?

The utter blindness and hypocrisy grates.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Sounds atypical. 

 

Also with female teachers which are most common in elementary schools Miss or Mrs says a lot.

It only denotes if they are married or not, anything else is pure speculation, On the other hand Ms does have undertones in my opinion (of course)

4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

It only denotes if they are married or not, anything else is pure speculation, On the other hand Ms does have undertones in my opinion (of course)

Well I knew the marital status of every teacher I had in grade school, they were all blatantly admitted heteros, they rubbed it in our faces, and engagement announcements were also shared.

 

I do think in later grades the teachers tended to be more guarded.

Edited June 11, 20233 yr by Jingthing

Just now, Jingthing said:

So teaching children that the only people in the world are cisgender hetero men and women is not sexualizing children?

The utter blindness and hypocrisy grates.

 There is no need to teach young kids any of this at all is the point i'm trying to make . They can't even teach them to spell properly these days. No blindness and certainly no hypocrisy 

4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

 There is no need to teach young kids any of this at all is the point i'm trying to make . They can't even teach them to spell properly these days. No blindness and certainly no hypocrisy 

it is taught though whether you realize it or not  I think most straight people are blind to it. Queer kids see it that's for sure. A contributing factor in depression and suicide. 

The knee jerk protect the children crowd doesn't seem to take protecting queer kids into account.

Edited June 11, 20233 yr by Jingthing

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well I knew the marital status of every teacher I had in grade school, they were all blatantly hetero, they rubbed it in our faces, and engagement announcements were also shared.

 

I do think in later grades the teachers tended to be more guarded.

neither I nor anybody I knew was in the least bit interested,   We didn't even know their christian names. It was Miss (regardless of marital status) or Mr followed by their surname or in later years it was just Miss or Sir.  Any teacher divulging their first name was regarded , quite rightly , with deep suspicion by us and our parents. I think that may sound a bit strange to you but I still consider it as a good  example of professional detachment and it certainly helped maintain discipline.  in my opinion

Just now, Bday Prang said:

neither I nor anybody I knew was in the least bit interested,   We didn't even know their christian names. It was Miss (regardless of marital status) or Mr followed by their surname or in later years it was just Miss or Sir.  Any teacher divulging their first name was regarded , quite rightly , with deep suspicion by us and our parents. I think that may sound a bit strange to you but I still consider it as a good  example of professional detachment and it certainly helped maintain discipline.  in my opinion

Not American 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Not American 

Correct

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

it is taught though whether you realize it or not  I think most straight people are blind to it. Queer kids see it that's for sure. A contributing factor in depression and suicide. 

The knee jerk protect the children crowd doesn't seem to take protecting queer kids into account.

Correct in the UK they embrace teaching this within the curriculum.

 

The Welsh government's RSE code says from the age of seven pupils will be taught "an awareness of how positive and negative social and cultural norms regarding sex, gender and sexuality influence relationships and behaviours".

Lord Justice Males added that diversity and inclusion were "fundamental" to British society.

https://news.sky.com/story/sex-education-campaigners-lose-bid-to-appeal-high-court-ruling-in-battle-against-welsh-government-policy-12898659

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

it is taught though whether you realize it or not  I think most straight people are blind to it. Queer kids see it that's for sure. A contributing factor in depression and suicide. 

The knee jerk protect the children crowd doesn't seem to take protecting queer kids into account.

We were taught the mechanics of reproduction that was all. personally I think it was enough . 

Just now, Bday Prang said:

We were taught the mechanics of reproduction that was all. personally I think it was enough . 

You failed to see my point 

Never mind.

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Correct in the UK they embrace teaching this within the curriculum.

 

The Welsh government's RSE code says from the age of seven pupils will be taught "an awareness of how positive and negative social and cultural norms regarding sex, gender and sexuality influence relationships and behaviours".

Lord Justice Males added that diversity and inclusion were "fundamental" to British society.

https://news.sky.com/story/sex-education-campaigners-lose-bid-to-appeal-high-court-ruling-in-battle-against-welsh-government-policy-12898659

And this is where it all started to go wrong, the way things are these days they would have to add two more years to the time spent at school just to teach them the LGBNGT alphabet with a refresher course every 6 months for the rest of their lives

4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

And this is where it all started to go wrong, the way things are these days they would have to add two more years to the time spent at school just to teach them the LGBNGT alphabet with a refresher course every 6 months for the rest of their lives

Not for my children, being taught inclusion and non discrimination has benefited them immensely. The time spent is not a 2 year block by the way, its just a few lessons within their whole school life on this. That's all it takes to learn to be non prejudice. 

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You failed to see my point 

Never mind.

I didn't fail to see your point. but my view is that the whole subject of human sexuality  is beyond the scope of a normal school education