"God save the Queen, man."    I really do not think he will make it to the 2024 election.

11 minutes ago, Screaming said:

"God save the Queen, man."    I really do not think he will make it to the 2024 election.

The other one couldn't distinguish his ex wife from his sexual assault victim.

1 hour ago, candide said:

Such as economic growth, record low unemployment, energy production and export, infrastructure, industrial renewal, semi-conductors, green energy, Ukraine,etc...

Add to this what he is NOT doing: alienating people from each other, censoring language, banning books, upsetting school curriculums and educational standards, human trafficking of immigrants, just to name a few. 

 

IMO opinion Biden will not just be running against at least one GOP-type candidate, he'll be up against a load ridiculous rubbish like baby eating, child-sex trafficking, and whatever else the pro-fascist media can come up with.

 

 

1 hour ago, Screaming said:

"God save the Queen, man."    I really do not think he will make it to the 2024 election.

First POTUS to quote a Sex Pistols lyric while in office!

2 hours ago, bignok said:

Biden is old. Trump is an alleged bad guy, Desantis an alleged "fascist". Only 1 is actually factual.

Trump is also old and also a fascist.

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

We realise and respect that people have different opinions and disagree with each other , so Trump disagreeing with some people is to be expected .

  Us Right wingers do not all sing from the same song sheet and our opinions differ and we often disagree with each other .

   We all don't think the same thing or have one line of thought

How do you come up with (we) you aren’t American and can’t vote in our elections.It  never ceases to amaze me how opinionated some folks are in matters that really don’t concern them.trump is unqualified mentally disabled and a criminal to boot he has no business to ever be near the reins of power again.for the good of everyone on the planet 

1 hour ago, proton said:

President Trump is not a criminal as has not been found guilty of anything, despite 6 years of persecution and false charges, media lies and now set up in a poll! They must be really scared of him.

Yes he is certainly a model ex POTUS....all those false charges and media lies did not indict him.  A grand jury looks at the evidence and decides to indict or not indict.  Then a jury will decide if guilty or not guilty.  The biggest problem that trump has is his big flapping mouth where over and over and over he admits to having broken laws and all of that piles up as more evidence.  It is highly likely that even more indictments are on the way and highly likely that he will be convicted of several crimes.  Anyone with an ounce of objectivity that bothers to read the recent indictments would see that the evidence is substantial to say the least.

 

You are correct that many are "scared" of him as many Americans would prefer not to have a POTUS who refuses to accept election results and screams the BIG lie over and over without being able to show even a shred of evidence....the fear is that his kool aide coup crew also refuses to face and admit the FACT that the election was not rigged to this day.  Delusional.

 

5 minutes ago, Tug said:

How do you come up with (we) you aren’t American and can’t vote in our elections.It  never ceases to amaze me how opinionated some folks are in matters that really don’t concern them.trump is unqualified mentally disabled and a criminal to boot he has no business to ever be near the reins of power again.for the good of everyone on the planet 

I was speaking as "us" as in "us" Right wingers , rather than "us" Americans   

 We have Right Wingers in the U.K as well  and Right wingers Worldwide can be regarded as "us"

   Hope that clears that up for you .

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I was speaking as "us" as in "us" Right wingers , rather than "us" Americans   

 We have Right Wingers in the U.K as well  and Right wingers Worldwide can be regarded as "us"

   Hope that clears that up for you .

No I allready had your measure 

Just now, Tug said:

No I allready had your measure 

No Tug, I honestly wasn't referring to my self as a USA citizen.

It seems to be your reading ability that is at fault

 

30 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Link or BS?

right wing talking points 

15 minutes ago, pomchop said:

right wing talking points 

I was responding to another posters that bought the topic up and he was being critical of DeSantis

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Going way off topic, so ask me again in a relevant thread 

You posted something off-topic and highly suspect, and now you won't provide a source for your questionable post because that would be off-topic.

 

That really is BS.

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

No Tug, I honestly wasn't referring to my self as a USA citizen.

It seems to be your reading ability that is at fault

 

Ahh nope my reading ability is just fine you are assuming to much and not understanding the comment of having your measure 

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Ahh nope my reading ability is just fine you are assuming to much and not understanding the comment of having your measure 

Yes  "having your measure " is not a term that I am familiar with.

What did you mean by that ?

8 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Old is good. Greater wisdom, maturity and less testosterone fueled decisions. Noem Chomskey and RBG being classic examples.

Easier victim for the hawks

37 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Once again, I call BS.  You happily posted nonsense you picked up somewhere, and now you can't give a credible source for the nonsense.

 

Whether it is on-topic or not is irrelevant.  You posted it, it remains on this topic, you should post a credible source or admit you have none.

Shall I PM you a link ?

That way the thread wont be going off topic and you can have the link 

 

  Edit PM sent

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9 hours ago, Tug said:

the choice to me is a no brainer

About 70 million Americans want that no brainer... 

5 hours ago, Tug said:

How do you come up with (we) you aren’t American and can’t vote in our elections.It  never ceases to amaze me how opinionated some folks are in matters that really don’t concern them.trump is unqualified mentally disabled and a criminal to boot he has no business to ever be near the reins of power again.for the good of everyone on the planet 

Many of the Trump bashers on here are not Americans. So, please direct your " you're not American " to them as well. Have a blessed day.

I would happily vote "none of the above " for the three dudes mentioned in the OP.  Don't think any of them are fascists, except perhaps in the modern definitin of "fascist", which has become "a politician I don't like".

 

I am surprised that RFK Jr is keeping his polling numbers. He is making a case that Biden needs to be primaried alive.  

 

IMHO IF Trump isn't the GOP nominee, the Democrats will move heaven and earth to get Joe AND Kamala off the ticket- they would be destroyed otherwise. Gavin Newsom is waiting in the wings, preparing his hair gel and tooth whitener.

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

About 70 million Americans want that no brainer... 

And a lot more don't. The topic of this thread alludes to your number not being true anymore. At the very least, many voters on both sides will be staying home next November if Trump and Biden are on the ticket. The likelihood is that dem voters will still have more reason to vote in their minds. Fascism ain't nuthin'.

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

And a lot more don't. The topic of this thread alludes to your number not being true anymore. At the very least, many voters on both sides will be staying home next November if Trump and Biden are on the ticket. The likelihood is that dem voters will still have more reason to vote in their minds. Fascism ain't nuthin'.

Fascist is just a word used anymore, guess the lefty pop thinks it makes them look smarter than they actually are. Perhaps when a gov makes common sense rules to protect the children in schools he's seen as fascist. 

53 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

I would happily vote "none of the above " for the three dudes mentioned in the OP.  Don't think any of them are fascists, except perhaps in the modern definitin of "fascist", which has become "a politician I don't like".

 

I am surprised that RFK Jr is keeping his polling numbers. He is making a case that Biden needs to be primaried alive.  

 

IMHO IF Trump isn't the GOP nominee, the Democrats will move heaven and earth to get Joe AND Kamala off the ticket- they would be destroyed otherwise. Gavin Newsom is waiting in the wings, preparing his hair gel and tooth whitener.

RFK Jr is a DINO.

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Fascist is just a word used anymore, guess the lefty pop thinks it makes them look smarter than they actually are. Perhaps when a gov makes common sense rules to protect the children in schools he's seen as fascist. 

oh, please. The GOP do everything they can to prevent poor people from voting. Fascism personified.

 

and such rules have been in place forever.

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2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Fascist is just a word used anymore, guess the lefty pop thinks it makes them look smarter than they actually are. Perhaps when a gov makes common sense rules to protect the children in schools he's seen as fascist. 

Scapegoating minorities for political gain is quite fascist.

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism/Extreme-nationalism

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

oh, please. The GOP do everything they can to prevent poor people from voting. Fascism personified.

The rules for voting are the same regardless of income. Are you implying poor people need special privileges? Are you implying poor people aren't smart enough to follow the rules?

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

The rules for voting are the same regardless of income. Are you implying poor people need special privileges? Are you implying poor people aren't smart enough to follow the rules?

No, the opposite. Voting occurs only on a work day, who does that benefit and who does that harm? The GOP want to restrict mail in voting, same deal as above. Gerrymandering. Requirements for id when no fraud exists. The list goes on and on.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

RFK Jr is a DINO.

How so? He loves single payer health care, opposes corporate domination of America, believes the MIC is killing the middle class, supports a wealth tax, wants to punish climate change deniers, etc.

Sounds like a Democrat to me.

20 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Fascist is just a word used anymore, guess the lefty pop thinks it makes them look smarter than they actually are. Perhaps when a gov makes common sense rules to protect the children in schools he's seen as fascist. 

It seems many people only want to see black and white.

This guy good, this guy bad.

Why is it so difficult to acknowledge that each candidate has good and bad points?

If people would look for a balanced presidential candidate who could unite the nation, then maybe they would find such a person.

Problem is, it seems nobody wants a sensitive moderate person. 

14 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

No, the opposite. Voting occurs only on a work day, who does that benefit and who does that harm? The GOP want to restrict mail in voting, same deal as above. Gerrymandering. Requirements for id when no fraud exists. The list goes on and on.

Most states allow in person voting 12-14 hrs a day. What's the problem?

Restricted mail in voting claim is vague, could mean anything.

ID required is just plain common sense.  Next.............