Donald Trump pleads not guilty to election charges in latest arraignment

[Bkk Brian]

23 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

I think it's more a testament to the fact that not only are a lot of views that some try to play off as "right-wing talking points" or "conspiracy theories", actually very much commonly held opinions, but also a lot of far-left views that some think of as being held by the majority are actually those of a very noisy and intimidating minority.

 

The ballot is secret and this is why it is a much more honest reflection of what people actually think than some garbage on social media where anything that goes against the narrative is mislabelled and deleted.

I think it's more a testament to the fact that not only are a lot of views that some try to play off as "right-wing talking points" or "conspiracy theories", actually very much commonly held opinions

 

Yet a quarter of republicans do believe in far out conspiracy theories:

 

"Satan-worshipping pedophiles running a global sex-trafficking operation control the U.S. government, media and financial institutions. A storm is coming to sweep away the elites and restore the rightful leader of the country. And things are so off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save the country."

 

"a quarter of Republicans agree with those sentiments, according to a PRRI report released Thursday that was based on data from four separate polls it conducted."

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-24/a-quarter-of-republicans-believe-central-views-of-qanon-conspiracy-movement

[heybruce]

10 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

It's hardly surprising, nor unique.  look at the lengths people are going to try and keep Biden as a viable candidate, regardless of his actual suitability for the role.

Let's see, on one side is a career politician with decades of experience, including eight years as Vice President, currently serving as President and getting important things done.

 

On the other is a businessman/conman/reality TV host with multiple bankruptcies and out of court settlements, currently facing multiple felony charges, whose only experience in government is four chaotic years as President.

 

I definitely choose Biden.

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15 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

It's hardly surprising, nor unique.  look at the lengths people are going to try and keep Biden as a viable candidate, regardless of his actual suitability for the role.

I fail to see the connection between your allegations about Biden and the actual issues that affect peoples financial and physical well-being. If anything, it's just another instance of distraction.

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Let's see, on one side is a career politician with decades of experience, including eight years as Vice President, currently serving as President and getting important things done.

 

On the other is a businessman/conman/reality TV host with multiple bankruptcies and out of court settlements, currently facing multiple felony charges, whose only experience in government is four chaotic years as President.

 

I definitely choose Biden.

I don't see what your opinion on Biden really has to do with people trying to keep the facts out of the conversation when it comes to his suitability as a candidate.

 

Or are you saying "It's worth doing because Biden is better than Trump"?

[BangkokReady]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I fail to see the connection between your allegations about Biden and the actual issues that affect peoples financial and physical well-being. If anything, it's just another instance of distraction.

One is the case of people ignoring the shortcomings of a politician due to personal feelings about what is going on in politics, the other is the same.

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1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

One is the case of people ignoring the shortcomings of a politician due to personal feelings about what is going on in politics, the other is the same.

False, The question is what is more important:  feelings or actual issues that affect people's live?. Whatever you believe I may or may not feel about Joseph Biden or Donald  Trump as people, that is secondary to what I expect would get accomplished under their respective administrations.

[stoner]

7 hours ago, placeholder said:

It is bizarre how he's seen that way by millions. He ran as a  populist who subsequently cut taxes and who appointed pro-corporate anti-worker justices to the Supreme court. Conglomerates, Wall St,  Bankers, and polluters rarely, if ever, had a better friend in the White House than they had in Donald Trump.

the bankers quite liked bill clinton though right ? repeal and all that. section 20 and 32 come to mind. 

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1 minute ago, stoner said:

the bankers quite liked bill clinton though right ? repeal and all that. section 20 and 32 come to mind. 

I  don't know that they loved the fact the he raised taxes on the wealthy.

[scottiejohn]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

repeal and all that. section 20 and 32 come to mind. 

Would you care to explain what that means to non Americans!

i suspect even some of them might want clarification!

[stoner]

Just now, placeholder said:

I  don't know that they loved the fact the he raised taxes on the wealthy.

who cares if your taxes are raised when your ability to make so much more money is also raised. 

 

 

[stoner]

Just now, scottiejohn said:

Would you care to explain what that means to non Americans!

i suspect even some of them might want clarification!

bill clinton repealed the glass steagall act - specifically important are sections 20 and 32 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_legislation

 

 

[scottiejohn]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

specifically important are sections 20 and 32 

Why?

As if I care!

[placeholder]

Just now, stoner said:

who cares if your taxes are raised when your ability to make so much more money is also raised. 

I shouldn't have answered this deflection in the first place. Nothing Clinton did compares to the favors consistently showered on the wealthy by Republicans from Ronald Reagan onwards. Or the harms the inflicted and/or tried to inflict on those who aren't wealthy.

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I shouldn't have answered this deflection in the first place. Nothing Clinton did compares to the favors consistently showered on the wealthy by Republicans from Ronald Reagan onwards. Or the harms the inflicted and/or tried to inflict on those who aren't wealthy.

haha you deflected right from the start. bill clinton repealed the act which lead to all kinds of mess within the US economy. 

 

pure facts. 

 

then you go on to deflect again talking about other republicans. 

 

bye.

 

 

[placeholder]

12 minutes ago, stoner said:

haha you deflected right from the start. bill clinton repealed the act which lead to all kinds of mess within the US economy. 

 

pure facts. 

 

then you go on to deflect again talking about other republicans. 

 

bye.

 

 

You don't seem to understand how the legislative process works. Bill Clinton couldn't enact the repeal on his own, could he? Are you claiming that Republicans in Congress are innocent of complicity?

[Walker88]

On 8/4/2023 at 11:34 AM, Tug said:

We used to call folks like graham and McCarthy sperm burpers or bag lickers. two useless groveling unamerican politicians if I ever saw them just think after all he’s done ,Covid,damage to our alliances,run up the debt,damage to our democracy,all the lies,on and on and on just truley beggars belief 

In the parlance of 1950s America, Ms Lyndsey would be referred to as:

 

"A confirmed bachelor"

[metisdead]

Off topic posts trolling about election ballots and the replies have been removed.

[ICU Kid]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

personal feelings about what is going on in politics

FWIW I believe Trump will be elected next year (45 = 9 & 47 =11)

 

Some (including me) see politics is just an extension of the media/news/entertainment complex: scripted pro wrestling as explained here:

 

 

Got to admit it though, IUS politics is more interesting, fun and entertaining than the UK's - our illusion of 2 separate parties is very slight (both our Reds & Blues are WEF members, pro-EU globalists, net zero fanatics, tax & spend merchants) and we don't have any characters as exciting and unpredictable as 'The Don' or quite as ridiculous as 'Cotton Eyed Joe'.

Edited August 7, 2023 by ICU Kid

[Tug]

4 hours ago, Walker88 said:

In the parlance of 1950s America, Ms Lyndsey would be referred to as:

 

"A confirmed bachelor"

Back a few more years perhaps a ( Nancy boy) lol I could care less if he’s gay or is impotent that matters not a whit it’s his obvious groveling to trump that’s just revolting he has absolutely No principles imo

[heybruce]

11 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

I don't see what your opinion on Biden really has to do with people trying to keep the facts out of the conversation when it comes to his suitability as a candidate.

 

Or are you saying "It's worth doing because Biden is better than Trump"?

I'm saying Biden is a far more viable candidate that Trump.  I thought that was obvious from my post.

[placeholder]

On 8/7/2023 at 6:23 PM, scottiejohn said:

Since when have you ever heard of a "US Presidential Ballot" or a "UK General Ballot"?

The are called "Presidential Elections"  and UK (or whatever region  etc) Elections!

Please also note that you "elect" someone into office!

You do not "Ballot" them into office!

Trump isn’t happy about Biden’s ‘Dark Brandon’ social media post

Despite Donald Trump’s penchant for attacking his political rivals on social media, the former president has taken issue with a tweet where Joe Biden is seen sipping coffee from a “Dark Brandon” themed mug.

In a court document filed in Washington DC on Monday, Mr Trump’s attorneys complained that Mr Biden is capitalising on the former president’s legal troubles with the meme post.

“President Biden has likewise capitalized on the indictment, posting a thinly veiled reference to his administration’s prosecution of President Trump just hours before arraignment,” his attorneys wrote in the filing.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-biden-dark-brandon-protective-order-b2389431.html

 

And here's a link to the offendng meme:

https://img.ifunny.co/videos/7ae3de635d9f5453a074e70b11f8630bae66f339886c17acfcfc093216350cb1_1.mp4

 

The paranoid mind of Donald Trump is a thing and a half to behold. I guess we're not going to get an explanation of how this tiny video relates to the indictments.

 

Edited August 8, 2023 by placeholder

[earlinclaifornia]

The judge has set up a Friday 10 am to hear arguments. She knows her responsibility well. 

[Tug]

25 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

The judge has set up a Friday 10 am to hear arguments. She knows her responsibility well. 

Trump can bellow and whial whine and blubber all he likes this judge will brook no delay his trial will be held in a timely manner if he breaks the judges orders he should be arrested and held in custody for a bit don’t put up with his postering anymore nip it right now damm the consequences !

[placeholder]

10 hours ago, placeholder said:

Trump isn’t happy about Biden’s ‘Dark Brandon’ social media post

Despite Donald Trump’s penchant for attacking his political rivals on social media, the former president has taken issue with a tweet where Joe Biden is seen sipping coffee from a “Dark Brandon” themed mug.

In a court document filed in Washington DC on Monday, Mr Trump’s attorneys complained that Mr Biden is capitalising on the former president’s legal troubles with the meme post.

“President Biden has likewise capitalized on the indictment, posting a thinly veiled reference to his administration’s prosecution of President Trump just hours before arraignment,” his attorneys wrote in the filing.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-biden-dark-brandon-protective-order-b2389431.html

 

And here's a link to the offendng meme:

https://img.ifunny.co/videos/7ae3de635d9f5453a074e70b11f8630bae66f339886c17acfcfc093216350cb1_1.mp4

 

The paranoid mind of Donald Trump is a thing and a half to behold. I guess we're not going to get an explanation of how this tiny video relates to the indictments.

 

Right wingers are really not happy about how the Biden campaign has jujitsued the Let's Go Brandon meme. 

"Congratulations. In eight seconds flat you turned ‘cup of joe’ from a cute bit of 20th Century slang into the stuff of nightmares," PJMedia's Stephen Green wrote.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-roasted-dark-brandon-coffee-mug-campaign-video-max-cringe

 

Apparently this commentator thinks that Let's Go Brandon phrase, which is a euphemistic way of saying "F### Y## Biden, is cute.

Anyway, the Fox News article shows how the right is upset that the original phrase, which they rejoiced in, has been weaponized against them.