Is Karma real?

[georgegeorgia]

A couple of things I remember

 

This is going back over 10 years ,walking one very late night in Soi yensabai Pattaya.

Back soi no one around until I heard a roaring motorbike and a blast of his horn and a hit with his left arm at me although I was walking on the side of the Soi 

 

A big guy of Arab no helmet roars then hits the next speed bump and goes arse over head .

I'm walking towards him ,fat guy in his 20's,he is clutching his leg ,face in agony 

 

Strangely the first thing that comes into my mind was watching that documentary when the American pilot parachutes into Afghanistan after his plane was shot then meets the Taliban in the field and he clutches his leg saying it's broken and then they shoot him.

I just stood over this guy ,no one around dark Soi and then I saw his wallet and picked it up and put it in my pocket and walked off !

 

Second one was only 3 weeks ago in Pattaya , in the Tops near Arcadia Beach resort around 3am

 

I was in the checkout when a young tattooed Thai guy and his girlfriend just decided to walk in front of me on purpose even the cashier said something to him but he shook his head so she served him ,all I had was one item and his GF laughed at him as he took his time.

 

When I got outside he was revving up his big motorbike  ...but...I realised little Miss laughing princess dropped her pink iPhone without realising it .

 

I stopped further up and used psychology to get him to drive off quick ,I stood further up pretending to try to cross the road and looked at him,he saw this and thought I will block him and he revved up and took off towards me in a hurry both laughing as they thought they had cut me off but as I pretended to be offended by their actions 

I went back quickly there was no one around it was 3am I pretended to drop my backpack over the pink phone then picked it up put it in the bag and quickly walked off .

 

I quickly took it to the room I was staying in and went back ,I  went to one of those street vendors to buy pork and waited and watched from there  and I saw them both revving around on their bike looking for the phone !!! 

 

I felt like a certain ecstasy over me as I watched their laughter earlier wiped off there faces .

 

The greatest news I got just last week was on Facebook I had a ex manager back in 1991  give evidence to sack me ,he was a nasty person , I see on the Facebook he was dying of cancer ,I write on his Facebook this is your karma good riddance!

I have sent copies of my statements back in 1991 to him and his family to say what a nasty man he was and karma is now around !

 

Earlier this year I'm in Australia travelling around , I'm a member of a 24 hour gym chain so can use any gym if that chain in Australia

 

I walk out of my hotel at 2am and go to the Anytime fitness next door ,I'm the only one inside and another guy who is shouting out loud on his phone ,he comes to me despite me and him only in the gym 

"How long you gonna be on that machine buddy"? He asks 

 

I said you can have it ,I get off and go to another machine,5 minutes later he is back around me shouting to someone on the phone ,very ignorant guy , I get up to move before he loudly farts near me laughing his head off to whoever is on the phone .

 

I decided to leave ,as I'm walking out the door into the dark laneway I see a guy outside on "ice" , he is standing directly outside the glass gym doors ,now to get in you require a swipe card and you arent supposed to let non gym members in 

 

So I walk outside he has phlegm all on his chin ,appears angry

 

, I use my psychology skills and smile at him he had been punching the walls .

 

I took in a feminine voice are you ok ? He looks at me angry 

 

He goes to hug me , I look at him with tears in my eyes ,oh you ok?

 

He then goes into angry  rant ,I open the glass doors of the gym and point to the guy earlier who is now on a machine still shouting into his phone and probably still farting .

 

I say to the "iced" up guy , he that guy has been saying things about you and go into more detail ..I could see him become angry and angry 

 

He walks into the gym and is shouting " you ****** I gonna get you ! And is walking towards the guy shouting , " you *""""" ! 

 

I close the gym doors and walk off I could hear the shouting inside 

 

About 20 minutes later from my level 34 of the hotel I could hear  sirens everywhere outside!

 

I felt good 

 

Karma 

 

 

 

[Neeranam]

Different types of Karma.

 

I was in McLeod Ganj, Northern India, in a retreat where a senior Tibetan Lama gave a lesson. He had a translator for us foreigners and asked of we had any questions. A rather plump Israeli woman asked 'why do the monks around town eat meat, they are like pigs'? The senior Lama didn't look pleased and explained that their bodies need it as in Tibet plants don't grow well. The translator also said that it wasn't wise to criticize monks. We then started a meditation and there was a loud grunting noise -  the Israeli woman had fallen onto her side and was snoring like a pig -  bizarre and one the most obvious experiences to me of instant Karma. 

 

I was hypnotically regressed on the Art Sutter Halloween special, with Uri Geller, which helped me realize Karma was real. 

 

[bignok]

Stories arent real.

[Don Chance]

 It is magical thinking.

[bignok]

18 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

A couple of things I remember

 

This is going back over 10 years ,walking one very late night in Soi yensabai Pattaya.

Back soi no one around until I heard a roaring motorbike and a blast of his horn and a hit with his left arm at me although I was walking on the side of the Soi 

 

A big guy of Arab no helmet roars then hits the next speed bump and goes arse over head .

I'm walking towards him ,fat guy in his 20's,he is clutching his leg ,face in agony 

 

Strangely the first thing that comes into my mind was watching that documentary when the American pilot parachutes into Afghanistan after his plane was shot then meets the Taliban in the field and he clutches his leg saying it's broken and then they shoot him.

I just stood over this guy ,no one around dark Soi and then I saw his wallet and picked it up and put it in my pocket and walked off !

 

Second one was only 3 weeks ago in Pattaya , in the Tops near Arcadia Beach resort around 3am

 

I was in the checkout when a young tattooed Thai guy and his girlfriend just decided to walk in front of me on purpose even the cashier said something to him but he shook his head so she served him ,all I had was one item and his GF laughed at him as he took his time.

 

When I got outside he was revving up his big motorbike  ...but...I realised little Miss laughing princess dropped her pink iPhone without realising it .

 

I stopped further up and used psychology to get him to drive off quick ,I stood further up pretending to try to cross the road and looked at him,he saw this and thought I will block him and he revved up and took off towards me in a hurry both laughing as they thought they had cut me off but as I pretended to be offended by their actions 

I went back quickly there was no one around it was 3am I pretended to drop my backpack over the pink phone then picked it up put it in the bag and quickly walked off .

 

I quickly took it to the room I was staying in and went back ,I  went to one of those street vendors to buy pork and waited and watched from there  and I saw them both revving around on their bike looking for the phone !!! 

 

I felt like a certain ecstasy over me as I watched their laughter earlier wiped off there faces .

 

The greatest news I got just last week was on Facebook I had a ex manager back in 1991  give evidence to sack me ,he was a nasty person , I see on the Facebook he was dying of cancer ,I write on his Facebook this is your karma good riddance!

 

 

I have sent copies of my statements back in 1991 to him and his family to say what a nasty man he was and karma is now around.

 

Do you believe in karma ?

 

 

 

Total bs or you just nasty?

[GarryP]

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

Total bs or you just nasty?

You are a bit too polite. Sounds like a total .....

[georgegeorgia]

17 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Different types of Karma.

 

I was in McLeod Ganj, Northern India, in a retreat where a senior Tibetan Lama gave a lesson. He had a translator for us foreigners and asked of we had any questions. A rather plump Israeli woman asked 'why do the monks around town eat meat, they are like pigs'? The senior Lama didn't look pleased and explained that their bodies need it as in Tibet plants don't grow well. The translator also said that it wasn't wise to criticize monks. We then started a meditation and there was a loud grunting noise -  the Israeli woman had fallen onto her side and was snoring like a pig -  bizarre and one the most obvious experiences to me of instant Karma. 

 

I was hypnotically regressed on the Art Sutter Halloween special, with Uri Geller, which helped me realize Karma was real. 

 

You have a link on that?

[georgegeorgia]

13 minutes ago, bignok said:

Total bs or you just nasty?

It's not being nasty ,many people have this , especially if you have been f....d over all your life 

 

I have a friend who was a police officer in Belfast for 25 years going to work every weekend to meet nasty people,how do you think he thinks about people nowadays seeing the scum of society every weekend night 

[FruitPudding]

I don't think karma is real.

[georgegeorgia]

23 minutes ago, bignok said:

Stories arent real.

You never been in a real job where you been f....d over by people right?

Never been out there in society just sitting by a desk in a university, all perfect world sitting in your office , 

 

Try working environments like emergency ward nursing or police or even paramedic ,security guards,etc you will become a person hater believe me but your life sounds too rosy 

 

Plenty of people here know what I'm talking about and have experienced life being trodden on by people in jobs and life !!!

Those who worked jobs like night shift taxi driver , emergency services etc all have been f....d over in life and need karma around them 

 

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

It's not being nasty ,many people have this , especially if you have been f....d over all your life 

 

I have a friend who was a police officer in Belfast for 25 years going to work every weekend to meet nasty people,how do you think he thinks about people nowadays !!!

So you steal wallets, phones and wish death on people.

 

Heck karma will get you back.

[Neeranam]

5 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

You have a link on that?

What?

[FruitPudding]

27 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Different types of Karma.

 

I was in McLeod Ganj, Northern India, in a retreat where a senior Tibetan Lama gave a lesson. He had a translator for us foreigners and asked of we had any questions. A rather plump Israeli woman asked 'why do the monks around town eat meat, they are like pigs'? The senior Lama didn't look pleased and explained that their bodies need it as in Tibet plants don't grow well. The translator also said that it wasn't wise to criticize monks. We then started a meditation and there was a loud grunting noise -  the Israeli woman had fallen onto her side and was snoring like a pig -  bizarre and one the most obvious experiences to me of instant Karma. 

 

I was hypnotically regressed on the Art Sutter Halloween special, with Uri Geller, which helped me realize Karma was real. 

 

I am not buying his response.

 

 I was in the McCleo Ganj too, a couple of decades ago

 

It's a popular tourist destination in India, a country where most of the population eats vegetarian food most of the time.

 

You can get all kinds of food there. I ate spaghetti carbonara, for example.

 

It ain't rural Tibet. Why did the monks have to eat meat? Were they farming cattle, or something?

[georgegeorgia]

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

What?

Uri Geller talk on that 

[LaosLover]

"Karma Is A Boomerang".

 

I saw it on a tip jar in a Starbucks in Maui.

 

Brilliant. Can't fault it.

[johnnybangkok]

So you stole a guys wallett, a young girls phone, had a go at a dying man on social media for all his family and friends to see and instigated violence on a complete stranger?

That's not karma, that's just psychotic behaviour.

[2baht]

Henry Kissinger is 100 years old, there is NO KARMA!

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

I am not buying his response.

 

 I was in the McCleo Ganj too, a couple of decades ago

 

It's a popular tourist destination in India, a country where most of the population eats vegetarian food most of the time.

 

You can get all kinds of food there. I ate spaghetti carbonara, for example.

 

It ain't rural Tibet. Why did the monks have to eat meat? Were they farming cattle, or something?

HH the Dalai Lama eats meat.

 

 

[LaosLover]

31 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Different types of Karma.

 

 'why do the monks around town eat meat, they are like pigs'? 

 

 

 

Buddha ate meat. He died from eating tainted meat.

 

He knew the meat was tainted, but he decided it was Beam O' Light time for his tired ol' temporal frame. The only Buddhists who don't eat meat live in places like San Francisco.

[FruitPudding]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

HH the Dalai Lama eats meat.

 

 

I am sure he does all kinds of things. I saw his recent antics ????

[georgegeorgia]

7 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

I am sure he does all kinds of things. I saw his recent antics ????

Was that intentional or cultural thing though ???

[ozimoron]

It's real to me in the sense that it's a guiding principle in my life. It isn't controlled by some kind of god as is usually inferred but is totally under my control and only exists in my mind. I never dare to step outside the boundaries dictated to me by my sense of karma. Should something go horribly wrong I might be tempted to blame bad karma. When things go well I can attribute that to good karma. So, for me, karma is real.

[georgegeorgia]

I wonder how religions define Karma?

Is it only the Buddhist religion that mentions karma ???

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I wonder how religions define Karma?

Is it only the Buddhist religion that mentions karma ???

For one of them it's simple. They codified it in the ten commandments. Covet thy neighbours wife = bad, bribe poiliticians = ok.

[Lacessit]

 

It's not rocket science. If I make bad decisions, bad things happen. And vice versa. IMO that's all karma is.

[FruitPudding]

24 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Was that intentional or cultural thing though ???

Please..... cultural??

 

I suppose deviant things can be accepted in some cultures

[FruitPudding]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

 

It's not rocket science. If I make bad decisions, bad things happen. And vice versa. IMO that's all karma is.

Yes, I accept this definition of karma.

[Reginald Prewster]

13 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

That's not karma, that's just psychotic behaviour.

Good one @johnnybangkok 

 

As young fellow I was by the German Special Forces and I was a c*nt..

I prefered to set a black eye when somebody was stepping on my shadow and "stood above all".

I had a sh*t wife, jobs were lousy and not paid well and easy sacked came to it..

My "friends" were not better, and Police knew us with first Name...

 

I broke off (incl bad wife) and started new.

Totally focussing on being a nice and helpful fellow, the helping hand when called and when some lunartic want to chew me an ear off, I listen and smile before I just leave pretending I would love to hear more (Yikes) but I am busy.

I got a great job now, making a far above average income, have nice colleagues and principals who asking me every season if I want to come the following year again.

In the past 20 years my best friends are Thais and I am highly apreciated and respected in the community I live.

 

If I have a job to do I know this is Thailand and they will screw it up.

So swallow your anger, smile, do the worker proud because of the good job he did and aks if he is able to do me an extra favor because he is so skilled.

I know its maybe hard to not sweep the ground with him and throw him over the fence.

Why shouting, labor is cheap here, so why not spend a day or two more till the job is made to your perfection. 

He will happily stay and not run away leaving you with a half completed job.

 

The Phone story:

Darn, I would have broken my spine to pick it up and with a loud hello hello, please wait, your phone, you lost it. You are lucky I was here otherwise somebody would have stolen it! 

If all witnesses see this? Ouh what a shame for him and her, true? 

 

So I can say:

There is no such thing as "Karma".

There is only what people see in you and what you deserve... 

 

 

[novacova]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

A couple of things I remember

 

This is going back over 10 years ,walking one very late night in Soi yensabai Pattaya.

Back soi no one around until I heard a roaring motorbike and a blast of his horn and a hit with his left arm at me although I was walking on the side of the Soi 

 

A big guy of Arab no helmet roars then hits the next speed bump and goes arse over head .

I'm walking towards him ,fat guy in his 20's,he is clutching his leg ,face in agony 

 

Strangely the first thing that comes into my mind was watching that documentary when the American pilot parachutes into Afghanistan after his plane was shot then meets the Taliban in the field and he clutches his leg saying it's broken and then they shoot him.

I just stood over this guy ,no one around dark Soi and then I saw his wallet and picked it up and put it in my pocket and walked off !

 

Second one was only 3 weeks ago in Pattaya , in the Tops near Arcadia Beach resort around 3am

 

I was in the checkout when a young tattooed Thai guy and his girlfriend just decided to walk in front of me on purpose even the cashier said something to him but he shook his head so she served him ,all I had was one item and his GF laughed at him as he took his time.

 

When I got outside he was revving up his big motorbike  ...but...I realised little Miss laughing princess dropped her pink iPhone without realising it .

 

I stopped further up and used psychology to get him to drive off quick ,I stood further up pretending to try to cross the road and looked at him,he saw this and thought I will block him and he revved up and took off towards me in a hurry both laughing as they thought they had cut me off but as I pretended to be offended by their actions 

I went back quickly there was no one around it was 3am I pretended to drop my backpack over the pink phone then picked it up put it in the bag and quickly walked off .

 

I quickly took it to the room I was staying in and went back ,I  went to one of those street vendors to buy pork and waited and watched from there  and I saw them both revving around on their bike looking for the phone !!! 

 

I felt like a certain ecstasy over me as I watched their laughter earlier wiped off there faces .

 

The greatest news I got just last week was on Facebook I had a ex manager back in 1991  give evidence to sack me ,he was a nasty person , I see on the Facebook he was dying of cancer ,I write on his Facebook this is your karma good riddance!

I have sent copies of my statements back in 1991 to him and his family to say what a nasty man he was and karma is now around !

 

Earlier this year I'm in Australia travelling around , I'm a member of a 24 hour gym chain so can use any gym if that chain in Australia

 

I walk out of my hotel at 2am and go to the Anytime fitness next door ,I'm the only one inside and another guy who is shouting out loud on his phone ,he comes to me despite me and him only in the gym 

"How long you gonna be on that machine buddy"? He asks 

 

I said you can have it ,I get off and go to another machine,5 minutes later he is back around me shouting to someone on the phone ,very ignorant guy , I get up to move before he loudly farts near me laughing his head off to whoever is on the phone .

 

I decided to leave ,as I'm walking out the door into the dark laneway I see a guy outside on "ice" , he is standing directly outside the glass gym doors ,now to get in you require a swipe card and you arent supposed to let non gym members in 

 

So I walk outside he has phlegm all on his chin ,appears angry

 

, I use my psychology skills and smile at him he had been punching the walls .

 

I took in a feminine voice are you ok ? He looks at me angry 

 

He goes to hug me , I look at him with tears in my eyes ,oh you ok?

 

He then goes into angry  rant ,I open the glass doors of the gym and point to the guy earlier who is now on a machine still shouting into his phone and probably still farting .

 

I say to the "iced" up guy , he that guy has been saying things about you and go into more detail ..I could see him become angry and angry 

 

He walks into the gym and is shouting " you ****** I gonna get you ! And is walking towards the guy shouting , " you *""""" ! 

 

I close the gym doors and walk off I could hear the shouting inside 

 

About 20 minutes later from my level 34 of the hotel I could hear  sirens everywhere outside!

 

I felt good 

 

Karma 

 

 

 

Antagonists have the same karma as anyone else, ie what comes around goes around. Eventually, with every action there’s a reaction. This is the karma of an antagonist, unhappiness, frustration with others and an endless perpetual state of desperation veneered under the craft of concealment.

[Lemsta69]

6 minutes ago, novacova said:

Antagonists have the same karma as anyone else, ie what comes around goes around. Eventually, with every action there’s a reaction. This is the karma of an antagonist, unhappiness, frustration with others and an endless perpetual state of desperation veneered under the craft of concealment.

True, except that it's not a mystical outside force that is responsible for that, it's just cause and effect. 

 

If you're clever enough you can get up to all sorts of no good and nothing will come of it.