Prime minister’s most complicated, treacherous and unenviable task

[webfact]

Tough as they were, the jobs of Prayut Chan-o-cha, Yingluck Shinawatra, Abhisit Vejjajiva appeared straightforward. And it would have been the same for Pita Limjaroenrat if he had been named the 30th prime minister of Thailand. Srettha Thavisin, on the other hand, is having the most intricate work full of booby traps, outright dangers and potential traitors.

 

To start with, in politics, even a less cut-throat one, it’s never the more the merrier. The Srettha coalition contains too many parties having clashing ideologies, public policies, personal rivals and vested interests. The first big test will come very soon in the form of fighting for administrative positions. To be able to pacify all is highly unlikely, and to be able to pacify all and have an efficient Cabinet with top-notch ethics at the same time is simply impossible.

 

Economically speaking, there will be the likes of the “digital wallet” policy that Srettha advocates but many of his present government partners question. The cannabis issue will threaten and probably shorten his honeymoon with Bhumjaithai. Projects undertaken by the previous government can lead to strife when up for review. Pheu Thai’s projects, often regarded with suspicion among those who are now in the Srettha alliance, will also lead to fundamental disagreement.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/prime-ministers-most-complicated-treacherous-and-unenviable-task/

 

-- Thai PBS 2023-08-23

 

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[sherwood]

First task should be to change the constitution which allows the appointment of the Senate.

Good luck with that one fella.

[hotchilli]

33 minutes ago, webfact said:

The Srettha coalition contains too many parties having clashing ideologies, public policies, personal rivals and vested interests. The first big test will come very soon in the form of fighting for administrative positions. To be able to pacify all is highly unlikely, and to be able to pacify all and have an efficient Cabinet with top-notch ethics at the same time is simply impossible.

To be honest Pita got a stay of execution.. he's better off out of this political fiasco..

[mfd101]

1 minute ago, hotchilli said:

To be honest Pita got a stay of execution.. he's better off out of this political fiasco..

Yes, to do what he & MFP want to do, he needs to win an unassailable majority of seats (55%+) in the HR at the next election. 

[hotchilli]

3 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

Yes, to do what he & MFP want to do, he needs to win an unassailable majority of seats (55%+) in the HR at the next election. 

Pita and MFP have shown they are the future of Thailand and can be trusted to keep their word.
All the others have shown their true colours... even ardent Red shirts are sick of their party for the treachery they have shown.

[klauskunkel]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

and have an efficient Cabinet with top-notch ethics

When did they ever have those?

[Joseph98765]

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Pita and MFP have shown they are the future of Thailand and can be trusted to keep their word.
All the others have shown their true colours... even ardent Red shirts are sick of their party for the treachery they have shown.

Amen! 100%...I never seen a politician that "stuck with their ideology" as Pita and his party...he has my 101% support..

[mark131v]

It would appear he is highly qualified in treachery and the complicated way he lied to his voters would indicate to me that he is more than capable of enrichening himself and his backers at the expense of the serfs

 

Can only hope there's a price to be paid but I ain't holding my breath just yet...

[bradiston]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Tough as they were, the jobs of Prayut Chan-o-cha, Yingluck Shinawatra, Abhisit Vejjajiva appeared straightforward. And it would have been the same for Pita Limjaroenrat if he had been named the 30th prime minister of Thailand. Srettha Thavisin, on the other hand, is having the most intricate work full of booby traps, outright dangers and potential traitors.

 

To start with, in politics, even a less cut-throat one, it’s never the more the merrier. The Srettha coalition contains too many parties having clashing ideologies, public policies, personal rivals and vested interests. The first big test will come very soon in the form of fighting for administrative positions. To be able to pacify all is highly unlikely, and to be able to pacify all and have an efficient Cabinet with top-notch ethics at the same time is simply impossible.

 

Economically speaking, there will be the likes of the “digital wallet” policy that Srettha advocates but many of his present government partners question. The cannabis issue will threaten and probably shorten his honeymoon with Bhumjaithai. Projects undertaken by the previous government can lead to strife when up for review. Pheu Thai’s projects, often regarded with suspicion among those who are now in the Srettha alliance, will also lead to fundamental disagreement.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/prime-ministers-most-complicated-treacherous-and-unenviable-task/

 

-- Thai PBS 2023-08-23

 

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The linked article is excellent. Really well written, well thought out. Much food for thought.

[Hunz Kittisak]

First task is to break Mr T out of prison 

once he’s freed let him take up the Premiership 

Make Thailand Great Again!

[RanongCat]

It no matter now who is puppet pm.  the fight for survival soon be digital money existence.

You qualify for recognition or only no value number?

A list ? B list ? Accepted ? Bye bye?

[jcmj]

There will be all out war within days. What a mess this has turned into. 

[Toolong]

I ought to know better at my age, to display such contemptably small-minded, bitter, rather childish, immature emotion towards this......but frankly....the problems this PM and the vile crew he and his party have bunked up with for the sake of self-interested gain & power may have, will only give me some (hopefully many) moments of joyful entertainment in the coming months & years.

 

F*** 'em.

 

Each and every one of them, today parading so proudly and 'dutifully' in their white, beribboned, hi-status costumes. What shameful vanity. Grotesque. ????

[wpcoe]

7 hours ago, sherwood said:

First task should be to change the constitution which allows the appointment of the Senate.

Good luck with that one fella.

If this government is "able to change the constitution which allows the appointment of the Senate," does that mean there will need to be another election for the citizenry to select Senators?  If so, wouldn't it be likely that disillusioned Pheu Thai voters would switch to Move Forward?  And, a further if so, wouldn't that possible outcome make the current government unlikely to favor a movement to undo the current system of an appointed Senate?

[MrMojoRisin]

MF - sitting pretty.

4 years of exposing the skeletons in the closet after 9 years of junta rule and PT are going to have to defend the junta to hold the coalition together.

????????????

[sherwood]

15 minutes ago, wpcoe said:

If this government is "able to change the constitution which allows the appointment of the Senate," does that mean there will need to be another election for the citizenry to select Senators?  If so, wouldn't it be likely that disillusioned Pheu Thai voters would switch to Move Forward?  And, a further if so, wouldn't that possible outcome make the current government unlikely to favor a movement to undo the current system of an appointed Senate?

Yes but the opposition need to tread very carefully.

"Slowly, slowly catch monkey."

[wpcoe]

5 minutes ago, sherwood said:

Yes but the opposition need to tread very carefully.

"Slowly, slowly catch monkey."

I hope they (MFP) strategize & execute such a plan effectively.  But, I am not Thai and it's not my country, so I don't really have a say in any of it.

[Lucky Bones]

Quite possible MFP won't be around in 4 years.

Prayut still takes his orders from above and controls the courts and EC.????????

[bradiston]

8 hours ago, sherwood said:

First task should be to change the constitution which allows the appointment of the Senate.

Good luck with that one fella.

Quite. They'll need more than luck. Can't see any way. And all the policies such as scrapping conscription, how's that going to work with all the junta parties on board? PT will be totally hamstrung. Hung parliament? Utterly ineffective? Unable to pass any legislation? Going to be interesting.

[tomacht8]

Back when Thaksin was elected there was indeed improvement for the normal country folk in the North and North East. But now the PT supporters are prematurely cheering with the old establishment on board. It will not work. The establishment doesn't play with dirty kids. The fact that the PT party has caved in and celebrates brotherhood with the old putschists instead of respecting the will of the people for more democracy will not pay off.

[Joseph98765]

17 hours ago, Joseph98765 said:

Amen! 100%...I never seen a politician that "stuck with their ideology" as Pita and his party...he has my 101% support..

And his background is impressive... and he speaks fluently English

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pita_Limjaroenrat

[DaiHard]

On 8/23/2023 at 1:41 PM, sherwood said:

First task should be to change the constitution which allows the appointment of the Senate.

Good luck with that one fella.

Have you read the constitution? The one that was supported in a referendum?

[bradiston]

37 minutes ago, DaiHard said:

Have you read the constitution? The one that was supported in a referendum?

That referendum was a disgusting travesty. People were threatened with imprisonment and huge fines for criticising it.

 

"The NCPO banned criticism of the draft constitution and prohibited monitoring of the referendum. Activists against the document were arrested, detained, and prosecuted in military courts,[4] whilst voters who expressed their intention to vote against the draft were also arrested and prosecuted by the military regime.[5]"

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Thai_constitutional_referendum

 

This was Prayut at his finest. A neo fascist. The result? The bloody Senate.

 

Edited August 25, 2023 by bradiston

[DaiHard]

1 minute ago, bradiston said:

That referendum was a disgusting travesty. People were threatened with imprisonment and huge fines for criticising it.

 

"The NCPO banned criticism of the draft constitution and prohibited monitoring of the referendum. Activists against the document were arrested, detained, and prosecuted in military courts,[4] whilst voters who expressed their intention to vote against the draft were also arrested and prosecuted by the military regime.[5]"

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Thai_constitutional_referendum

 

This was Prayut at his finest.

 

You believe Wikipedia? Matichon is hardly impartial and the activists were not arrested arrested for protesting the document, they were arrested for breaking the law for taking part in a gathering of 5 or more people and refusing to disperse when told to by the police. This law was brought in just after the unrest in Bangkok.

 

Even Wikipedia had to concede "The ‘Yes’ camp accounted for 61.4 per cent of the voter turn-out, while the ‘No’ faction could garner only 38.6 per cent, with 94 per cent of the votes counted on the day after."

 

Did you know that it was drawn up by German constitutional scholars and Prayut wasn't involved?

[bradiston]

6 minutes ago, DaiHard said:

You believe Wikipedia? Matichon is hardly impartial and the activists were not arrested arrested for protesting the document, they were arrested for breaking the law for taking part in a gathering of 5 or more people and refusing to disperse when told to by the police. This law was brought in just after the unrest in Bangkok.

 

Even Wikipedia had to concede "The ‘Yes’ camp accounted for 61.4 per cent of the voter turn-out, while the ‘No’ faction could garner only 38.6 per cent, with 94 per cent of the votes counted on the day after."

 

Did you know that it was drawn up by German constitutional scholars and Prayut wasn't involved?

No it wasn't. It was put together by a team of Thai legal "experts" headed by the chief advocate for Pita appealing the ludicrous ruling made by the speaker to allow a vote on his second nomination, Borwornsak Uwanno. And yes I do believe most of Wikipedia. What are your sources for apologising for this disaster?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borwornsak_Uwanno

[DaiHard]

On 8/24/2023 at 10:57 AM, Joseph98765 said:

And his background is impressive... and he speaks fluently English

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pita_Limjaroenrat

Hardly surprising as he grew up in Australia and then attended Harvard.

[bradiston]

3 minutes ago, DaiHard said:

Hardly surprising as he grew up in Australia and then attended Harvard.

New Zealand actually.

[DaiHard]

Just now, bradiston said:

New Zealand actually.

Should have said the Antipodes. My bad!

[bradiston]

Just now, DaiHard said:

Should have said the Antipodes. My bad!

Yeah, all bad.

[DaiHard]

20 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Yeah, all bad.

Lol!