owl sees all Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: Here's a question: Do you believe the Covid pandemic of a few years ago was a hoax? No comment; sorry! 1 1
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted September 1, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 1, 2023 4 hours ago, placeholder said: No, we didn't. Certain limited govt groups like the armed forces had federal requirements. But that was a relatively small number. We had mandates, period. To state otherwise is disingenuous. 1 3
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted September 1, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Here is your post: False, the covid vaccines are just that, vaccines, your insinuation they are some kind of cocktail is B.S. No vaccine is 100% efficient, take a look at the yearly flu vaccines that are also updated regularly, around 40 - 60% effective and they also do not provide immunity. Experts say changes to CDC’s vaccination definition are normal Missing context. The CDC has altered the language in the definition of vaccination on its website, including after the development of COVID-19 vaccines, but the changes were made to prevent potential misinterpretations, and did not alter the overall definition, according to the agency, experts confirmed to The Associated Press that the changes reflect the evolution of vaccine research and technology. “While there have been slight changes in wording over time to the definition of ‘vaccine’ on CDC’s website, those haven’t impacted the overall definition,” the statement said, noting that the previous definition “could be interpreted to mean that vaccines were 100% effective, which has never been the case for any vaccine.” Dr. John P. Moore, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the Weill Cornell School of Medicine, said Massie’s remarks amounted to “disinformation” and were based on “semantics not science.” https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-976069264061 “While there have been slight changes in wording over time to the definition of ‘vaccine’ on CDC’s website, those haven’t impacted the overall definition,” the statement said, noting that the previous definition “could be interpreted to mean that vaccines were 100% effective, which has never been the case for any vaccine.” The definition wasn't a problem till covid vaccine entered the scene. You may not like it. My post stands. 2 1
placeholder Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: We had mandates, period. To state otherwise is disingenuous. What role did Trump or Biden play in those mandates? 1
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted September 1, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, placeholder said: What role did Trump or Biden play in those mandates? Find another playmate for the rabbit hole. 1 2 1
placeholder Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, EVENKEEL said: Find another playmate for the rabbit hole. You've got nothing. 1
Bkk Brian Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: “While there have been slight changes in wording over time to the definition of ‘vaccine’ on CDC’s website, those haven’t impacted the overall definition,” the statement said, noting that the previous definition “could be interpreted to mean that vaccines were 100% effective, which has never been the case for any vaccine.” The definition wasn't a problem till covid vaccine entered the scene. You may not like it. My post stands. Your posts stands because its still there, it does not make it credible however. Perhaps you need to read the full context once more of my response and link. The vaccine information changes occurred not just after the covid vaccines were introduced, they are part of over all updates that are ongoing: Pre-2015 the CDC described vaccination as: “Injection of a killed or weakened infectious organism in order to prevent disease.” Another was dated 2015-2021 and said: “The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” The third was from September 2021, calling vaccination: “The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease. "does not mean that the agency altered it because of problems with the coronavirus vaccines." Dr. Ryan Langlois, a microbiology and immunology professor at the University of Minnesota, says the CDC’s changes “make total sense,” and add nuance following emerging vaccine developments such as mRNA technology. “We’ve repurposed this word, vaccination, from 200 plus years ago,” said Langlois, who teaches a course on the history of vaccination. “It’s always difficult when a word is so entrenched but the technology is changing. I think it’s very, very clear that one of the things the CDC is trying to do is to try to update the definition with the updating technology.” 1
Eleftheros Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, placeholder said: You've got nothing. He's got plenty. Vaccine mandates were rife in large public institutions across the US, and imposed at the national level in many other countries. Austria mandated vaccination for over-18s, while Germany locked down those who were unvaccinated. A couple of great role models from the past for authoritarian control of society. NZ Prime Minister Jacinda "We are the truth" Ardern said that the country would become a two-tier society between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, while French president Macron declared he would "piss off the unvaccinated" by barring them from public places. Greece levied fines of 114 euros per month on over-60s who were unvaccinated, a 25% hit to their already meager state pension. Vaccine mandates were widespread worldwide and enforced by the jackboot in a great many countries. To pretend otherwise can accurately be described as "denialism". 2 1 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted September 1, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Eleftheros said: He's got plenty. Vaccine mandates were rife in large public institutions across the US, and imposed at the national level in many other countries. Austria mandated vaccination for over-18s, while Germany locked down those who were unvaccinated. A couple of great role models from the past for authoritarian control of society. NZ Prime Minister Jacinda "We are the truth" Ardern said that the country would become a two-tier society between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, while French president Macron declared he would "piss off the unvaccinated" by barring them from public places. Greece levied fines of 114 euros per month on over-60s who were unvaccinated, a 25% hit to their already meager state pension. Vaccine mandates were widespread worldwide and enforced by the jackboot in a great many countries. To pretend otherwise can accurately be described as "denialism". And what's any of that got to do with Joe Biden mandating vaccination? He didn't do it before and there's nothing in what he said that indicates he'll do it in the future. Stop deflecting with nonsense 3 1 1 1
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