1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Somehow it never does.

 

Rather like a Trump conviction, yes?

He has been convicted, just not criminally yet. And he's doing what he can to postpone and postpone.

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5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Somehow it never does.

 

Rather like a Trump conviction, yes?

Not in the slightest. Trump has been charged and is awaiting trials which is a positive outcome.

 

Your claims are merely unproven allegations and your opinion, with nothing to back it up.

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Somehow it never does.

 

Rather like a Trump conviction, yes?

er no. As I read down the conviction pathway I see signs saying "conviction this way" and they have arrows pointing in the direction I'm reading.

 

 

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16 hours ago, billd766 said:

Not in the slightest. Trump has been charged and is awaiting trials which is a positive outcome.

 

Your claims are merely unproven allegations and your opinion, with nothing to back it up.

LOL.

Will you change your viewpoint when ( hopefully ) Biden is awaiting trial?

 

Of course my claims are merely unproven allegations and my opinion, with nothing to back it up, just like the majority of posts on an opinion forum, including yours.

If you want different, you should look for a different forum.

20 hours ago, stevenl said:

He has been convicted, just not criminally yet. And he's doing what he can to postpone and postpone.

Only in civil court which does not carry a criminal record and no jail time, and has a far lower standard of proof required.

Also, I'm sure they are under appeal, are they not?

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Only in civil court which does not carry a criminal record and no jail time, and has a far lower standard of proof required.

Also, I'm sure they are under appeal, are they not?

Doesn't change the fact, I know, difficult word, he has been convicted.

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Doesn't change the fact, I know, difficult word, he has been convicted.

Doesn't stop him becoming POTUS, so not important.

Ok, Mr. Speaker I hear you.

“If you want to file a motion to vacate, then file the -‑‑‑ing motion.”

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL.

Will you change your viewpoint when ( hopefully ) Biden is awaiting trial?

 

Of course my claims are merely unproven allegations and my opinion, with nothing to back it up, just like the majority of posts on an opinion forum, including yours.

If you want different, you should look for a different forum.

I will certainly take a long hard think about changing my mind.

 

Will you change your mind when/if Trump gets convicted?

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Only in civil court which does not carry a criminal record and no jail time, and has a far lower standard of proof required.

Also, I'm sure they are under appeal, are they not?

How about the state charges which do carry jail time and cannot be pardoned by the POTUS, whoever that may be.

 

IF I had a vote and it came down to a choice between Trump and Biden, I would chose Biden.

 

However IMO, both are too old to become POTUS for 4 years.

 

IF however neither stands for any reason, it will be a whole new ballgame. My crystal ball can only see as far as this week and throws up too many errors to be reliable.

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I will certainly take a long hard think about changing my mind.

 

Will you change your mind when/if Trump gets convicted?

How about the state charges which do carry jail time and cannot be pardoned by the POTUS, whoever that may be.

 

IF I had a vote and it came down to a choice between Trump and Biden, I would chose Biden.

 

However IMO, both are too old to become POTUS for 4 years.

 

IF however neither stands for any reason, it will be a whole new ballgame. My crystal ball can only see as far as this week and throws up too many errors to be reliable.

As long as Trump does become the nominee. We will have a younger President in four or less years.  

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL.

Will you change your viewpoint when ( hopefully ) Biden is awaiting trial?

 

Of course my claims are merely unproven allegations and my opinion, with nothing to back it up, just like the majority of posts on an opinion forum, including yours.

If you want different, you should look for a different forum.

You don't seem to understand that there are 2 kinds of opinions:

Informed opinions backed by verifiable evidence.

Or the kind you mostly engage in.

19 hours ago, billd766 said:

I will certainly take a long hard think about changing my mind.

 

Will you change your mind when/if Trump gets convicted?

How about the state charges which do carry jail time and cannot be pardoned by the POTUS, whoever that may be.

 

IF I had a vote and it came down to a choice between Trump and Biden, I would chose Biden.

 

However IMO, both are too old to become POTUS for 4 years.

 

IF however neither stands for any reason, it will be a whole new ballgame. My crystal ball can only see as far as this week and throws up too many errors to be reliable.

If it were between Biden and anyone I'd vote AGAINST Biden. I would have voted for Bernie over Trump, but they put up the pants suit woman, and I'd have voted for a rock over her.

 

Trump will IMO never see the inside of a jail because he is entitled to secret service protection rest of his life. House arrest at most IMO.

 

I don't care about billionaires, but Trump was a symbol of resistance to Washington morass, which IMO is why he's popular. I just want the dems out of the W H, and don't care who it is, though DeSantis seems like the best alternative to Trump.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If it were between Biden and anyone I'd vote AGAINST Biden. I would have voted for Bernie over Trump, but they put up the pants suit woman, and I'd have voted for a rock over her.

 

Trump will IMO never see the inside of a jail because he is entitled to secret service protection rest of his life. House arrest at most IMO.

 

I don't care about billionaires, but Trump was a symbol of resistance to Washington morass, which IMO is why he's popular. I just want the dems out of the W H, and don't care who it is, though DeSantis seems like the best alternative to Trump.

Try to understand:  The President of the United States has very real, serious responsibilities.  Responsibilities that can seriously harm the country and the world if not handled correctly.  Responsibilities that require knowledge and experience in law, government, politics and world affairs.

 

Electing a flamboyant, incompetent businessman (to use the term loosely) as President because you think he symbolizes something is idiotic.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

Try to understand:  The President of the United States has very real, serious responsibilities.  Responsibilities that can seriously harm the country and the world if not handled correctly.  Responsibilities that require knowledge and experience in law, government, politics and world affairs.

 

Electing a flamboyant, incompetent businessman (to use the term loosely) as President because you think he symbolizes something is idiotic.

Well Mr. Flamboyant just presided over 4 relatively stable years for the US, until the mess right at the end. Those final two months needed Trump to accept his election lot and concede, to have a better chance to try again. That chance has probably gone now. 

 

For sheer idiocy, then I would go with the vastly experienced present POTUS, who seems to be ruining and harming the country, perhaps irreparably, with rash policies, insane military decisions and general stupidity. Biden seems to have learned nothing over a privileged 40+ year opportunity, Hopeless.

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Well Mr. Flamboyant just presided over 4 relatively stable years for the US, until the mess right at the end. Those final two months needed Trump to accept his election lot and concede, to have a better chance to try again. That chance has probably gone now. 

 

For sheer idiocy, then I would go with the vastly experienced present POTUS, who seems to be ruining and harming the country, perhaps irreparably, with rash policies, insane military decisions and general stupidity. Biden seems to have learned nothing over a privileged 40+ year opportunity, Hopeless.

Four years of letting McConnell take care of all domestic politics while Trump limited himself to alienating allies, encouraging dictators and revealing classified information.  The only reason nothing blew up was Trump didn't know how to do anything.  We got lucky the first time, I wouldn't count on that luck lasting.

 

Care to give examples of President Biden harming the country with rash policies?  Do you object to infrastructure, limiting technology transfers to China, agreements with nations that restrict China's advances in the Pacific, strengthening NATO, supporting a country that doesn't want to be colonized by Russia, or some other rash policy?

18 hours ago, nauseus said:

Well Mr. Flamboyant just presided over 4 relatively stable years for the US, until the mess right at the end. Those final two months needed Trump to accept his election lot and concede, to have a better chance to try again. That chance has probably gone now. 

 

For sheer idiocy, then I would go with the vastly experienced present POTUS, who seems to be ruining and harming the country, perhaps irreparably, with rash policies, insane military decisions and general stupidity. Biden seems to have learned nothing over a privileged 40+ year opportunity, Hopeless.

You mean unemployment that has consistently been at or near record levels? Or an improved version of Obamacare that makes it affordable for middle class people?

How exactly is Biden harming the country?

When you've lost Jonathan Turley, you have big problems

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

When you've lost Jonathan Turley, you have big problems

Given the senate will not vote to convict Biden, any attempt to impeach him is just politicking.

Turley is just pointing out the obvious.

Altering text messages, using unauthenticated text messages & disingenuously presenting out context information. Then repeating "the Biden's" over and over again. This is how the inquiry is going so far.

 

"Jesse Watters claimed a new email presented during the impeachment inquiry was some sort of damning evidence. Jessica Tarlov pointed out that AOC had debunked it. The email was about paying alimony - it had nothing to do with business. "

 

 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given the senate will not vote to convict Biden, any attempt to impeach him is just politicking.

Turley is just pointing out the obvious.

He mentioned the word evidence.

On 9/13/2023 at 1:18 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

An inquiry is not the same as a formal impeachment proceeding. However, if it came up with something significant it might progress to that.

I for one welcome the inquiry, and hope something substantial comes of it re Biden.

How is that working out for you?

On 9/18/2023 at 11:17 AM, nauseus said:

Well Mr. Flamboyant just presided over 4 relatively stable years for the US, until the mess right at the end. Those final two months needed Trump to accept his election lot and concede, to have a better chance to try again. That chance has probably gone now. 

 

For sheer idiocy, then I would go with the vastly experienced present POTUS, who seems to be ruining and harming the country, perhaps irreparably, with rash policies, insane military decisions and general stupidity. Biden seems to have learned nothing over a privileged 40+ year opportunity, Hopeless.

Are we at war?

 

What's the economy doing? Is manufacturing coming back to the US?

 

On 9/14/2023 at 6:41 AM, Danderman123 said:

McCarthy is going through the motions.

 

Anyway, the MAGA Republicans in the House are incompetent, so not much will come of this.

 

That post aged well.

We now know that the Biden corruption stories were all fabricated by the Russians.

On 9/13/2023 at 1:18 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

 

I for one welcome the inquiry, and hope something substantial comes of it re Biden.

Nope. Nothing came of it.

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Nope. Nothing came of it.

Right! It's been a miserable fail!

Who's surprised about it, except the MAGA gullible (including the ones pretending not to be MAGA)?