Pol Gen Torsak to become Thailand’s next top cop

[herfiehandbag]

16 hours ago, 2baht said:

Is this some kind of twisted Joke? ????

As opposed to a big Joke?

[herfiehandbag]

On 9/27/2023 at 8:29 PM, SingAPorn said:

Let's hope he will obey the new PM, encourage foreigners with money to come and make visa issues more simple for retirement for quality retirees from Europe and stop all the absurd stuff banks ask to open an account or all the useless immigration forms and red tape.

I don't suppose any of those are either within his remit, let alone on his radar.

 

They will be due to the efforts of government (or in the case of the banks, corporate) functionaries, lower down the "food chain" seeking to show how important they are.

[Caldera]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand’s best-known and loved policeman

Loved by whom? That sounds like a big joke to me,I don't know anyone who loves him.

[MrJ2U]

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

hogging the spotlight

And now revelations he was paying reporters upwards of 100,000 baht for glowing stories about his crime busting exploits.

 

Thai's and falangs in general have no respect or trust of the RTP, politicians, or any Thai placed in a position of authority. 

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

And now revelations he was paying reporters upwards of 100,000 baht for glowing stories about his crime busting exploits.

 

Thai's and falangs in general have no respect or trust of the RTP, politicians, or any Thai placed in a position of authority. 

That would not surprise me in the least. He was the ultimate publicity hound, fame and fortune meant alot more to him than fighting crime, and this was all one big game for him. How he ever even got to that position after being dumped from the chief post at immigration after only one year is anyone's guess.

[spidermike007]

12 hours ago, Puccini said:

Biography of Satitpong Sukvimol  

Satitpong Sukvimol is a businessperson who has been the head of 10 different companies and holds the position of Chairman of The Siam Cement Public Co. Ltd., Chairman of Siam Sindhorn Co. Ltd., Chairman of Sridharani Co. Ltd., Chairman of Apexcela Co., Ltd., Chairman for Siam Bioscience Co. Ltd., Chairman of Banbung Vejchakij Co. Ltd., Chairman at Sriphath Co. Ltd., Chairman for Doi Kham Co. Ltd., Chairman for Deves Insurance Public Co. Ltd. and Chairman for The Crown Property Bureau. He is also on the board of The Siam Commercial Bank Public Co. Ltd. and HM Private Property Office...

 

Source: https://www.marketscreener.com/business-leaders/Satitpong-Sukvimol-11788/biography/

Now we know. There would only be ONE reason why he was a figurehead of so many different companies.

[MrJ2U]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

That would not surprise me in the least. He was the ultimate publicity hound, fame and fortune meant alot more to him than fighting crime, and this was all one big game for him. How he ever even got to that position after being dumped from the chief post at immigration after only one year is anyone's guess.

The story is in the Bangkok Post.  

 

 

[Tanlic]

On 9/28/2023 at 7:11 PM, mark131v said:

That is primarily because they are all corrupt!!

 

The higher they get the more corrupt they become so yes it is correct and right to tar every single senior copper in the RTP as  corrupt after all they prove it week in and week out...

Exactly who are they? You'd be as well saying every racehorse is grey. Tarring everyone with the same brush is just opening ones mouth and letting their belly's rumble.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mark131v]

4 hours ago, Tanlic said:

Exactly who are they? You'd be as well saying every racehorse is grey. Tarring everyone with the same brush is just opening ones mouth and letting their belly's rumble.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Which part are you confused about??

 

I cannot be any more clear ALL senior RTP are corrupt!

 

It is the nature of everything they do, there is no serving the public they are all about self enrichment. Essentially they are a pyramid scheme with most of the money and corruption at the top

 

In order to progress to the top you need to more cunning and wealthy than the others, if you become more cunning and corrupt you become more wealthy

 

In summary for the hard of thinking and those slow on the uptake ALL senior RTP are corrupt, hope that clears thing up for you!

[transam]

7 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Which part are you confused about??

 

I cannot be any more clear ALL senior RTP are corrupt!

 

It is the nature of everything they do, there is no serving the public they are all about self enrichment. Essentially they are a pyramid scheme with most of the money and corruption at the top

 

In order to progress to the top you need to more cunning and wealthy than the others, if you become more cunning and corrupt you become more wealthy

 

In summary for the hard of thinking and those slow on the uptake ALL senior RTP are corrupt, hope that clears thing up for you!

Got any credible links for all that......????

[mark131v]

Their day to day behaviour but there's also one or two other things:

 

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=ddc863f48cc8fc2dJmltdHM9MTY5NjAzMjAwMCZpZ3VpZD0yM2JmNTA0YS1kYzk4LTY0MDktMjYwNy00MTAxZGRkNTY1Y2MmaW5zaWQ9NTI0Ng&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=23bf504a-dc98-6409-2607-4101ddd565cc&psq=police+corruption+in+thailand&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZnJhbmNlMjQuY29tL2VuL2xpdmUtbmV3cy8yMDIxMDkyMi1qb2UtZmVycmFyaS1jYXNlLWxpZnRzLWxpZC1vbi10aGFpLXBvbGljZS1jb3JydXB0aW9u&ntb=1

 

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=4583ca2f828d6663JmltdHM9MTY5NjAzMjAwMCZpZ3VpZD0yM2JmNTA0YS1kYzk4LTY0MDktMjYwNy00MTAxZGRkNTY1Y2MmaW5zaWQ9NTI3Mg&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=23bf504a-dc98-6409-2607-4101ddd565cc&psq=police+corruption+in+thailand&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly90aGVkaXBsb21hdC5jb20vMjAyMS8wOC9sZWFrZWQtbXVyZGVyLWZvb3RhZ2UtcHV0cy10aGFpbGFuZHMtcG9saWNlLW9uLXRoZS1kZWZlbnNpdmUv&ntb=1

 

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=7b0820262418b04aJmltdHM9MTY5NjAzMjAwMCZpZ3VpZD0yM2JmNTA0YS1kYzk4LTY0MDktMjYwNy00MTAxZGRkNTY1Y2MmaW5zaWQ9NTM0OQ&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=23bf504a-dc98-6409-2607-4101ddd565cc&psq=police+corruption+in+thailand&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9iYW5na29ramFjay5jb20vMjAyMS8wOS8xMC90aGFpLXBvbGljZS1jb3JydXB0aW9uLWJydXRhbGl0eS8&ntb=1

 

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=8f2c04e92fc70eb8JmltdHM9MTY5NjAzMjAwMCZpZ3VpZD0yM2JmNTA0YS1kYzk4LTY0MDktMjYwNy00MTAxZGRkNTY1Y2MmaW5zaWQ9NTM3NA&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=23bf504a-dc98-6409-2607-4101ddd565cc&psq=police+corruption+in+thailand&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly90aGV0aGFpZ2VyLmNvbS9ob3QtbmV3cy9jcmltZS90aGFpLXBvbGljZS1vZmZpY2Vycy1mYWNlLWxlbmd0aHktcHJpc29uLXNwZWxsLWFmdGVyLWxhcmdlLXNjYWxlLWNvcnJ1cHRpb24&ntb=1

 

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=a7f238c66b2642ecJmltdHM9MTY5NjAzMjAwMCZpZ3VpZD0yM2JmNTA0YS1kYzk4LTY0MDktMjYwNy00MTAxZGRkNTY1Y2MmaW5zaWQ9NTE1MQ&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=23bf504a-dc98-6409-2607-4101ddd565cc&psq=police+corruption+in+thailand&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9nYW5pbnRlZ3JpdHkuY29tL3BvcnRhbC9jb3VudHJ5LXByb2ZpbGVzL3RoYWlsYW5k&ntb=1

 

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=c5d2e93a9322611dJmltdHM9MTY5NjAzMjAwMCZpZ3VpZD0yM2JmNTA0YS1kYzk4LTY0MDktMjYwNy00MTAxZGRkNTY1Y2MmaW5zaWQ9NTIwOQ&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=23bf504a-dc98-6409-2607-4101ddd565cc&psq=police+corruption+in+thailand&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvQ29ycnVwdGlvbl9pbl9UaGFpbGFuZA&ntb=1

 

That's just 2 pages on bing with RTP and corruption mentioned there are very, very many more but I reckon unless you is a bit thick you already know the RTP are the biggest most corrupt entity in Thailand and in order to be in charge of said mafia gang you need to be more bent than the average copper!!

Edited September 30, 2023 by mark131v

[mark131v]

'Joe Ferrari' case lifts lid on Thai police corruption - France 24

 

Leaked Murder Footage Puts Thailand’s Police on the Defensive – The Diplomat

 

Thais demand END to police corruption & BRUTALITY (bangkokjack.com)

 

Thai police officers face lengthy prison spell after large-scale corruption | Thaiger (thethaiger.com)

 

Thailand country risk report — GAN Integrity

 

Corruption in Thailand - Wikipedia

 

Don't know what happened to the links but here they are in a less complicated way...

[mark131v]

Police Corruption Perceptions Index (indexmundi.com)

 

2021 Corruption Perceptions Index - Explore the… - Transparency.org

 

A powerful Thai village chief and dozens of police officers sat down for a wild dinner party. It ended with a murder - ABC News

 

How corrupt are Thailand’s police? | Political Prisoners in Thailand (wordpress.com)

 

Is Thailand Corrupt? What You Need To Know – Thailand Trip Expert

 

Asia's Five Most Corrupt Countries (forbes.com)

 

Will that do for the moment?

[transam]

1 minute ago, mark131v said:

Police Corruption Perceptions Index (indexmundi.com)

 

2021 Corruption Perceptions Index - Explore the… - Transparency.org

 

A powerful Thai village chief and dozens of police officers sat down for a wild dinner party. It ended with a murder - ABC News

 

How corrupt are Thailand’s police? | Political Prisoners in Thailand (wordpress.com)

 

Is Thailand Corrupt? What You Need To Know – Thailand Trip Expert

 

Asia's Five Most Corrupt Countries (forbes.com)

 

Will that do for the moment?

Will show it to our lad, he is a sergeant............????

[mark131v]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

Will show it to our lad, he is a sergeant............????

Nothing personal transam but they are all corrupt mate to greater and lesser degrees but in order to be at the top of the pyramid you need to be that bit more corrupt than the average. You seriously going to tell me he has never taken a bribe when it is endemic in the RTP if so I have a nice bridge for sale but then again you don't seem that naïve

Edited September 30, 2023 by mark131v

[transam]

Just now, mark131v said:

They are all corrupt mate to greater and lesser degrees but in order to be at the top of the pyramid you need to be that bit more corrupt than the average. You seriously going to tell me he has never taken a bribe when it is endemic in the RTP if so I have a nice bridge for sale but then again you don't seem that naïve

I have no idea, but I don't make assumptions either about him.????

A bit like folk here saying, all Toyota Fortuner drivers are bad, I know that is rollox, same, same....????

[mark131v]

1 minute ago, transam said:

I have no idea, but I don't make assumptions either about him.????

A bit like folk here saying, all Toyota Fortuner drivers are bad, I know that is rollox, same, same....????

Like I said it is endemic and in order to progress you need to get with the programme, I don't think they all start off as complete parasites but in order to reach the top I reckon they must become that and put aside any morals or scruples they started with

 

Maybe that's why 1400 have opted for early retirement maybe they have made enough or maybe they are tired of robbing their neighbours, I would genuinely like to think it's the latter...

[transam]

2 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Like I said it is endemic and in order to progress you need to get with the programme, I don't think they all start off as complete parasites but in order to reach the top I reckon they must become that and put aside any morals or scruples they started with

 

Maybe that's why 1400 have opted for early retirement maybe they have made enough or maybe they are tired of robbing their neighbours, I would genuinely like to think it's the latter...

I personally know a lot of officers, so I do know how the system works...????

A Captain friend was killed on duty, he used to help out local old people in his spare time, the stuff folk here don't read or know about....

So, for me, pasting all police as dodgy, is a bit OTT...

In my opinion............????

[mark131v]

12 minutes ago, transam said:

A Captain friend was killed on duty, he used to help out local old people in his spare time, the stuff folk here don't read or know about....

Don't really want to get into this but just because somebody helps the local old folk and was killed on duty has zero to do with if he was corrupt or not after all the present PM is such a nice man he is working for nothing , Thailand is all about face and false nicety 

 

I have had a few dealings with RTP over the years from routine extortion stops to reporting my dog poisoned by the neighbour up the road. In the main they mostly spoke nicely but they where clear that in order to make thing's happen then money needed to change hands, it's their nature and the way they are trained it is the essence of corruption and there's no skating around it...

 

ps it is also why in the main Thai police are despised by their countrymen but no need to take my word for it

 

Opinion: It is time to defund the Thai police - Thai Enquirer Current Affairs Main

Edited September 30, 2023 by mark131v

[transam]

2 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Don't really want to get into this but just because somebody helps the local old folk and was killed on duty has zero to do with if he was corrupt or not after all the present PM is such a nice man he is working for nothing , Thailand is all about face and false nicety 

 

I have had a few dealings with RTP over the years from routine extortion stops to reporting my dog poisoned by the neighbour up the road. In the main they mostly spoke nicely but they where clear that in order to make thing's happen then money needed to change hands, it's their nature and the way they are trained it is the essence of corruption and there's no skating around it...

It seems your findings basically revolve around you, you don't like Fortuner drivers either................????

 

I rest my case, now.................

[mark131v]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

It seems your findings basically revolve around you, you don't like Fortuner drivers either................????

 

I rest my case, now.................

No they don't did you miss the multitude of links to articles about the naughty RTP?  you're right about the Fortuner drivers though and yes time to rest the case, have a good one!! 

[transam]

1 minute ago, mark131v said:

No they don't did you miss the multitude of links to articles about the naughty RTP?  you're right about the Fortuner drivers though and yes time to rest the case, have a good one!! 

Your links, now look for dodgy cops in any country, you maybe surprised, but you're ALL cops are dodgy is OTT.......????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mark131v]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Your links, now look for dodgy cops in any country, you maybe surprised, but you're ALL cops are dodgy is OTT.......????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We will have to disagree I stand by my statement that ALL senior RTP are corrupt. In order to get to the head of the pyramid it is a prerequisite. You don't have to agree I shan't be upset if you don't...

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, mark131v said:

Which part are you confused about??

 

I cannot be any more clear ALL senior RTP are corrupt!

 

It is the nature of everything they do, there is no serving the public they are all about self enrichment. Essentially they are a pyramid scheme with most of the money and corruption at the top

 

In order to progress to the top you need to more cunning and wealthy than the others, if you become more cunning and corrupt you become more wealthy

 

In summary for the hard of thinking and those slow on the uptake ALL senior RTP are corrupt, hope that clears thing up for you!

I once had the system explained to me as being like the scheme for "prize money" in Nelson's Navy.

 

If you captured an enemy ship it became your ships "prize". It was sold through a "prize court" and the money it raised (prize money) was divided up amongst the crew. The Admiral got say, 25%, the Captain got 25%, the officers of the ship shared 25% sorted by rank, and the crew got 25% shared amongst themselves.

 

The same sort of principle applies to the distribution of the various informal income streams relevant to whichever branch of the force you serve in. That is why the costs of promotion reach such eye watering sums for lucrative posts such as (for example CO of the Pattaya police).

 

Removal to an "inactive post" is a real punishment, as you are removed from the distribution chain for the time you are inactive.

 

Everyone, from the decent old buffer seeing kids across the road outside a school upwards is in the system.

 

I suppose you could refuse your cut, but you would never be trusted by anyone, never be considered for (or of course be able to afford) a promotion if you were to do so.

 

And of course, because the system is universal, it is effectively unreformable.

Edited September 30, 2023 by herfiehandbag

[mark131v]

1 minute ago, herfiehandbag said:

I once had the system explained to me as being like the scheme for "prize money" in Nelson's Navy.

 

If you captured an enemy ship it became your ships "prize". It was sold through a "prize court and the money it raised (prize money) was divided up amongst the crew. The Admiral got say, 25%, the Captain got 25%, the officers of the ship shared 25% sorted by rank, and the crew got 25% shared amongst themselves.

 

The same sort of principle applies to the distribution of the various informal income streams relevant to whichever branch of the force you serve in. That is why the costs of promotion reach such eye watering sums for lucrative posts such as (for example CO of the Pattaya police).

 

Removal to an "inactive post" is a real punishment, as you are removed from the distribution chain.

 

Everyone, from the decent old buffer seeing kids across the road outside a school up is in the system.

 

I suppose you could refuse your cut, but you would never be trusted by anyone, never be considered for (or of course be able to afford) a promotion.

 

And of course, because the system is universal, it is effectively unreformable.

Succinctly put, thank you!

[MrJ2U]

On 9/28/2023 at 9:14 AM, TigerandDog said:

IMPROVEMENTS he made to Immigration.

Immigration and all it entails sucks.

 

 

[mark131v]

More of Thailand's finest in the news again and up to their necks in corruption: