15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If that is really what Gaetz wants, then the right man won. The sooner the US stops fighting to the last Ukrainian the better IMO.

I agree, but with the proviso that trusting any politician own any of his/her promises has a low probability of success. Gaetz will fight for no funds to Ukraine,. but he doesn't even have the support of his own party, much less support from the Dems. The Dems are supposed to be leftish-wing and should be against war, but their actions belie their words. 

1 minute ago, retarius said:

I agree, but with the proviso that trusting any politician own any of his/her promises has a low probability of success. Gaetz will fight for no funds to Ukraine,. but he doesn't even have the support of his own party, much less support from the Dems. The Dems are supposed to be leftish-wing and should be against war, but their actions belie their words. 

I agree about politicians and promises.

 

Didn't every war that the US was involved in this and last century require Democrats to vote for it?

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I saw this New Yorker's opinion on South;

 

     <deleted> the South.
<deleted> 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.
And now what do we get? We're the <deleted> Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?
Cause we <deleted> founded this country, <deleted>. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bull<deleted> about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the <deleted> sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were <deleted> blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the <deleted> monuments are up here in our backyard?
No, No. Get the <deleted> out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and <deleted> Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those <deleted> stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for <deleted> blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their <deleted> Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this <deleted>, so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for almost a hundred years" dickheads. <deleted> off.
Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being <deleted> arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don't think so. Arrogance is the <deleted> cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn't be so <deleted> arrogant if I wasn't paying for your <deleted> bridges, bitch.
All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your <deleted> Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a <deleted> swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a <deleted>hole," we said, but you had to have your <deleted> orange juice.
The next dickwad who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal <deleted> dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, <deleted>, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, <deleted>, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, <deleted>, it’s <deleted> our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own <deleted> stop signs, <deleted>.
Let’s talk about those values for a <deleted> minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you <deleted> Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It’s <deleted> Massachusetts, the <deleted> center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the <deleted> nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are <deleted> blue states, <deleted>, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to <deleted> guess? 10 of the top 10 are <deleted> red-ass we're-so-<deleted>-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its <deleted> part.
But two guys making out is going to <deleted> ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we <deleted> get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're <deleted> towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us <deleted> Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous <deleted>? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the <deleted> Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us up here in the North, <deleted>.
Well this gravy train is <deleted> over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bull<deleted> and shove it up your ass.
And no, you can't have your <deleted> convention in New York next time. <deleted> off.
Sincerely,  "New Yorker"

 

18 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Care to elaborate?

 

As far as I am aware:

 

9 of the 10 poorest states are red.

 

8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are red.

 

10 of the 10 states with the worst education outcomes are red.

 

9 of the 10 states with the lowest life expectancy are red.

 

Covid deaths were 38% higher per capita in red states compared to blue states.

 

I am curious as to which problems you are referring to when you say “fewer problems”.

 

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When the blue cities that happen to be in red states are reassigned to the blue side... every one of your individual "statistics" is wrong... you are misinformed at best... or just plain blind at worst.

7 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

When the blue cities that happen to be in red states are reassigned to the blue side... every one of your individual "statistics" is wrong... you are misinformed at best... or just plain blind at worst.

You really do have a penchant for making things up, don't you?

For instance that the poverty statistics are skewed by blue cities

 

Here's a datum from Mississippi, the poorest state:

Child Poverty Heavily Concentrated in Rural Mississippi, Even More So Than Before the Great Recession

The share of children living in poverty in the U.S. remains higher than it was before the Great Recession. According to estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey (ACS), nearly 20 percent of children were living in poverty in 2016, compared with 18 percent in 2007. Also, the number of children in poverty increased over this period by 1 million, from 13,097,100 to 14,115,713. Child poverty rates continue to be highest in the South and Southwest, particularly in counties with concentrations of Native Americans and along the Mississippi Delta. Children in poverty tend to live in rural (nonmetro) counties—many with persistently high poverty—that were hard hit by the recession

https://www..ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2018/july/child-poverty-heavily-concentrated-in-rural-mississippi-even-more-so-than-before-the-great-recession/

5 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

When the blue cities that happen to be in red states are reassigned to the blue side... every one of your individual "statistics" is wrong... you are misinformed at best... or just plain blind at worst.

Nonsense.

 

The cognitive dissonance required by poor, barely educated whites to persistently vote republican as their standard of living continues to deteriorate under republican rule is quite astounding.

 

Keep bashing your head against that wall, I'm 1000% sure you'll get a different result after a few more whacks.

 

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10 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

The cognitive dissonance required by poor, barely educated whites to persistently vote republican as their standard of living continues to deteriorate under republican rule is quite astounding.

Yes, phenomenal would be another word.  A huge block of voters who consistently voted against their own self-interest.  

Hey, how about rounding up the guys who came up with that Tea Party hogwash back when and have them answer for their lies spreading misleading info?