Ozempic - Anyone here tried it?

[1FinickyOne]

My brother reported weight loss - 

 

Is it available here? At what cost? 

[mania]

Don't want to be a wet blanket but,

 

What are your plans? I mean how much weight do you want to lose? Do you hope just this injection will achieve that? Sustain that?

 

You want to inject yourself with something designed to manage blood glucose levels and HbA1c in people with type 2 diabetes but use it to lose weight

 

So I am wondering do you plan to also change? Meaning change your diet at all or exercise?

 

Because truthfully these things...all of them, meaning lose weight by taking this pill, injecting this drug, drinking this tea yada yada yada...

 

They all end the same or worse because in the end you actually need to change what brought you to your undesired weight.

 

It is much safer & actually works to change those things. Make the adjustment of calories in or increase the calories out.

 

 

Good Luck!

[HuskerDo2]

I asked my doctor about these types of weight loss pills just last week. I gained about 15 pounds in the last year as I had severe hip pain that ended with a hip replacement. I had been a couch potato for about 10 months. I've been back to the gym 5 times a week but the weight isn't dropping thus my inquiry about weight loss pills. She didn't like the idea due to side effects. I told her what my diet consisted of (always been very healthy) so she suggested avoiding Ozempic or anything else and just continue going to the gym.  

[HappyExpat57]

I have heard of some pretty nasty side effects from actual users. If you aren't type 2 diabetic, it's a very risky path towards weight loss.

[Swiss1960]

First 3 answers from people who know nothing...

@1FinickyOne: Yes, I startet using it, now on 0.5, soon going to 1.0 per injection.

 

Yes, it helps reduce appetite and keeps your stomach full longer, so you feel full faster when you eat, the only side effect so far is when going to the toilet, big business is different than before, but manageable. It does NOT reduce weight by itself, you NEED to also change your lifestyle (sport, food choices etc), otherwise nothing will happen. You start with small dosage (0.25 per injection), then after 4 weeks you change to 0.5, again 4 weeks later to 0.1. Effects will not be felt immediately, it takes time. 

 

It is available in many hospitals (i.e. Bangkok Pattaya Hospital) or through Pulse Clinic (Pattaya or BKK), third option (mine) is CM Mediclinic Chiang Mai.

 

Costs were given to me by BPH and Pulse Clinic as 13K Baht per Pen, plus costs for initial doctor appointment (1'500) and necessary blood tests (2K).

Cost from CM Mediclinic was 8-9K per Pen (different size), I could send blood tests (diabetes, cholesterol and others) from my own records, since I do those tests regulary in a lab, and doctor consultancy was online for 500 Baht. After order of and payment for the Pen, it arrived in cooled box within 3 days. 

 

Disclaimer: My post is no recommendation to use, only facts from my own experience

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said:

I asked my doctor about these types of weight loss pills just last week. I gained about 15 pounds in the last year as I had severe hip pain that ended with a hip replacement. I had been a couch potato for about 10 months. I've been back to the gym 5 times a week but the weight isn't dropping thus my inquiry about weight loss pills. She didn't like the idea due to side effects. I told her what my diet consisted of (always been very healthy) so she suggested avoiding Ozempic or anything else and just continue going to the gym.  

Gym won't help enough you need to change your diet, it's 90% diet

[Tom H]

Weight loss: Wegovy.

Diabetes: Ozempic.

 

Both have no studies about long time side effects. And that could be everything, even blind less or stomach issues of greater dimensions.

 

Side pack letter gives a hint to these effects already….

 

 

 

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Tom H

[Tom H]

3 hours ago, Swiss1960 said:

First 3 answers from people who know nothing...

@1FinickyOne: Yes, I startet using it, now on 0.5, soon going to 1.0 per injection.

 

Yes, it helps reduce appetite and keeps your stomach full longer, so you feel full faster when you eat, the only side effect so far is when going to the toilet, big business is different than before, but manageable. It does NOT reduce weight by itself, you NEED to also change your lifestyle (sport, food choices etc), otherwise nothing will happen. You start with small dosage (0.25 per injection), then after 4 weeks you change to 0.5, again 4 weeks later to 0.1. Effects will not be felt immediately, it takes time. 

 

It is available in many hospitals (i.e. Bangkok Pattaya Hospital) or through Pulse Clinic (Pattaya or BKK), third option (mine) is CM Mediclinic Chiang Mai.

 

Costs were given to me by BPH and Pulse Clinic as 13K Baht per Pen, plus costs for initial doctor appointment (1'500) and necessary blood tests (2K).

Cost from CM Mediclinic was 8-9K per Pen (different size), I could send blood tests (diabetes, cholesterol and others) from my own records, since I do those tests regulary in a lab, and doctor consultancy was online for 500 Baht. After order of and payment for the Pen, it arrived in cooled box within 3 days. 

 

Disclaimer: My post is no recommendation to use, only facts from my own experience

Dont take 1.0….

[Swiss1960]

32 minutes ago, Tom H said:

Weight loss: Wegovy.

Diabetes: Ozempic.

 

Both have no studies about long time side effects. And that could be everything, even blind less or stomach issues of greater dimensions.

 

Side pack letter gives a hint to these effects already….

 

Wegovy and Ozempic both have semaglutide as main component. Looking at the side effects described, I do not see much difference. Actually, I found an independent article on UCHealth that says:

 

It’s correct that Wegovy and Ozempic are two names for the same drug: semaglutide. Ozempic is the name of the drug as prescribed for people with diabetes. The FDA approved Ozempic for people with diabetes in 2017 and approved Wegovy for people who have obesity or are overweight and have additional health problems in 2021. “They are just prescribed under different names with slightly different doses and different indications,” Low Wang said. “The drug product itself is the same.”
 

And why should I not go to 1mg injection of Ozempic, if the FDA approved dose for Wegovy is 2.4mg weekly? Please provide us with your profound medical or other knowledge about not using the dose prescribed?

 

Wegovy btw is not yet approved by the Thai FDA, only Ozempic is. 

[Tom H]

39 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said:

Wegovy and Ozempic both have semaglutide as main component. Looking at the side effects described, I do not see much difference. Actually, I found an independent article on UCHealth that says:

 

It’s correct that Wegovy and Ozempic are two names for the same drug: semaglutide. Ozempic is the name of the drug as prescribed for people with diabetes. The FDA approved Ozempic for people with diabetes in 2017 and approved Wegovy for people who have obesity or are overweight and have additional health problems in 2021. “They are just prescribed under different names with slightly different doses and different indications,” Low Wang said. “The drug product itself is the same.”
 

And why should I not go to 1mg injection of Ozempic, if the FDA approved dose for Wegovy is 2.4mg weekly? Please provide us with your profound medical or other knowledge about not using the dose prescribed?

 

Wegovy btw is not yet approved by the Thai FDA, only Ozempic is. 

Well I take Ozempic since 6 months for Diab2 and checked many studies. The difference between 0.5 and 1.0 in terms of effects is not 100% more as you might think. It is around 20% to 30%. Not worth it when you consider you have to take it a life long:) and yes, I do have (a profound) medical background. 

 

Why do you think a good doctor is asking you about your eyes before he subscribe it?

 

Or why do you think Ex-PM Boris Johnson stop taking them? ????

Edited October 16, 2023 by Tom H

[ezzra]

Ozempic is in short supply everywhere, marketing ploy? who knows? i mean how hard it is to mix some liquid with the components that make the staff?

There's a new did on the block, Mounjaro, that suppose to be the magic bullet for wight loss and diabetics...

 

https://www.mounjaro.com/

[Jaggg88]

11 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Gym won't help enough you need to change your diet, it's 90% diet

Exercise is for keeping fit but your weight is controlled by your diet.

 

[Jaggg88]

You can also get this product in tablet form. You take a low dose for a month to get used to it and then continue on the higher dose. The disadvantages are you have to take one every day whereas the injection is only once a week. Mounjaro (Tirzeptatide) has been proven better than Ozempic (Semaglutide) for weight loss.

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Jaggg88

[paul545]

It’s because of people wanting to use it just for weight management that people like me who have diabetes and waiting for open heart surgery and have severe arthritis which prevents me from going to the gym to exercise and lose weight any other way cannot get it at any cost now because of a worldwide shortage. 

[dougball]

My doctor put me on 0.25mg a year ago for diabetes.  Almost immediately it reduced my appetite. My meals reduced in size and snacking was much less.  I lost 30lbs and discovered an enjoyment of exercise...so the weight loss came first.  I'm still on the low dose and, in Canada, it's free for me. No side-effects. I'm 78.

[impulse]

12 hours ago, Swiss1960 said:

Cost from CM Mediclinic was 8-9K per Pen (different size), I could send blood tests (diabetes, cholesterol and others) from my own records, since I do those tests regulary in a lab, and doctor consultancy was online for 500 Baht. After order of and payment for the Pen, it arrived in cooled box within 3 days. 

How many baht do you figure you'll be all-in when you're finished?

 

[xtrnuno41]

There is only 1 company making it, so with weight loss discovery, there is a shortage in it.

There were articles people using it for diabetic (main reason of medicine) had problems getting it, as there was a run for it to use for weight loss. Also understood for weight loss you need higher doses of it and it can come with serious side effects.

 

Once a neighbor woman was loosing weight on injections with another substance. That substance (?) was retrieved from the pee of pregnant women. It worked, but after stopping with it, the weight comes on again. It is/was more expensive.

No clue if they can make it now syntactically.

Once did a keto, lost 10 kg in a month. Not knowing if keto has to do with it or just the amount of cal, as it was very low in cal.

In that time I gained weight, I stopped with having cookies, deserts, sugar free cola and coffee (substitutes). DIdnt work at all. The only thing, I can think of, my food got spicier then. That would be it? 

 

Fact is when you fell hungry, you can eat too much in short time. So better to eat little portion and WAIT.

You will feel you had enough. You still could eat but feeling already satisfied. But you should repeat and repeat and change the way you are eating and thats a bore. But could be effective.  

You can add Chia seed to it, it expands in your stomach and so you are full, but it takes some time, you have to wait.

 

However now getting older, notice i can feel real hungry. eating time. For instance i make 2 burgers (in past could do 4) and im really drooling about the thought having them. But then I take 2 bites and I have enough, really weird, I finish them but against my feeling. Loosing weight? No.

But Ozempic? Guess not, to side effects, not going there. Now im having now more magnesium, as i red it could effect your food processing. Just one month , but need to have longer breath and then see.

I know about longer breath, as in the past I had statines and they effected my body really negative after half a year.

Yeah they helped lowering my cholesterol, but did more things in longer run. Never again.  

Human body , a complex machine.

[mrfill]

A massive proven liar says its fine....

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12203407/BORIS-JOHNSON-Wonder-drug-hoped-stop-raids-cheddar-chorizo-didnt-work-me.html

[retarius]

I've used it. It was prescribed for both diabetes and weight loss. I lost 4 kilos but as I moved upon the doe range I could no longer tolerate the side effects. At 1mg I was nauseous all day long, not bad if your aim is only to lose weight, but after 1 month on unending nausea I quit the drug, I'd rather be fat than miserable all the time. Oh it costs about 13000 baht per syringe, 1 months dosage.

Edited October 16, 2023 by retarius

[Pouatchee]

15 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Is it available here? At what cost? 

havent tried it but want to.

10 000bht for 1mg at my local pharmacy. i will have to talk to my doctor first

[scubascuba3]

Those trying to lose weight why not start threads asking how best to do it via food and drink

[connda]

Personally - no.  And no plans to.  Weight can be controlled with diet and exercise, which if course requires will-power.

[tkramer]

18 hours ago, mania said:

Don't want to be a wet blanket but,

 

What are your plans? I mean how much weight do you want to lose? Do you hope just this injection will achieve that? Sustain that?

 

You want to inject yourself with something designed to manage blood glucose levels and HbA1c in people with type 2 diabetes but use it to lose weight

 

So I am wondering do you plan to also change? Meaning change your diet at all or exercise?

 

Because truthfully these things...all of them, meaning lose weight by taking this pill, injecting this drug, drinking this tea yada yada yada...

 

They all end the same or worse because in the end you actually need to change what brought you to your undesired weight.

 

It is much safer & actually works to change those things. Make the adjustment of calories in or increase the calories out.

 

 

Good Luck!

There's an old saying...

 

"Can't be fat, if you don't eat fat."

 

There are no shortcuts. You have to do the work.

 

Bing Videos 

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by tkramer

[HuskerDo2]

15 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Gym won't help enough you need to change your diet, it's 90% diet

I think that's what I just alluded to (eating healthy). You can change your diet all you want but if you don't exercise much then the weight won't disappear very quickly. It's the combination of the two that get the best results. It isn't 90% diet tho. Closer to 60-40%.

[HuskerDo2]

21 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

My brother reported weight loss - 

 

Is it available here? At what cost? 

Don't equate a person's weight with their health. Just because a person carries a few extra pounds doesn't necessarily mean they aren't healthy. I have a friend who is about 30 - 40 pounds overweight BUT he has low cholesterol, perfect heart rate and can outrun most of us. 

[Swiss1960]

9 hours ago, impulse said:

How many baht do you figure you'll be all-in when you're finished?

 

With testing, shipping and all, I calculate around 9K per pen which lasts for 4 weeks. Recommendation for weight loss is 9-12 months, so 39-52 weeks, therefore 10-13 pens, therefore 90-120K (all rounded, don't use calculators please)

[Jelli]

I dropped 7kg over recent weight and 10kg over all time high doing nothing more 20mins of exercise daily, climbing every set of steps I could, walking 9k steps M-F and change of diet. Mostly just cut back on carbs, sugar. I'm well into my 60s as well so there's slow metabolism at play as well.

 

Just try.

[Jelli]

3 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said:

Don't equate a person's weight with their health. Just because a person carries a few extra pounds doesn't necessarily mean they aren't healthy. I have a friend who is about 30 - 40 pounds overweight BUT he has low cholesterol, perfect heart rate and can outrun most of us. 

Lol

 

Couldn't outrun me that's certain. 40 pounds.. sheeeeit that half of my wife's weight.

 

Just bc someone has cholesterol levels a bit elevated is hardly death sentence like being fat. Especially if HDL is high.

 

Heart rate is important, I'll give you that

[scubascuba3]

7 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said:

I think that's what I just alluded to (eating healthy). You can change your diet all you want but if you don't exercise much then the weight won't disappear very quickly. It's the combination of the two that get the best results. It isn't 90% diet tho. Closer to 60-40%.

Nope, I've seen plenty of fat people who seem to do a lot of exercise, they stay fat because they haven't tackled their diet, how many fat people at the gym fail

[scubascuba3]

4 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said:

Don't equate a person's weight with their health. Just because a person carries a few extra pounds doesn't necessarily mean they aren't healthy. I have a friend who is about 30 - 40 pounds overweight BUT he has low cholesterol, perfect heart rate and can outrun most of us. 

Usually being overweight \ obese leads to health conditions eventually, no point pretending otherwise, normalising being fat won't help anyone