Rasmussen Reports Poll - 24% of US Citizens Say Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccine

[Red Phoenix]

Nearly a quarter of Americans believe someone they know died from COVID-19 vaccine side effects, and even more say they might be willing to become plaintiffs in a class-action lawsuit against vaccine makers.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 24% of American Adults say they know someone personally who died from side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine. Sixty-nine percent (69%) don’t know anyone who died from being vaccinated against the virus. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Forty-two percent (42%) say that, if there was a major class-action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects, they would be likely to join the lawsuit, including 24% who say it’s Very Likely they’d join such a lawsuit.

Source: https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/killer_jab_24_say_someone_they_know_died_from_covid_19_vaccine

 

 

 

[proton]

Belief is often different from reality

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Indeed, with probably one third of the US population firmly in the Trump-Republican anti-vax camp, and 1.1 million Americans actually dead from COVID, and NOT vaccines, it's easy for the anti vax folks to project those COVID deaths onto the vaccines, falsely.

 

 

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home

 

And of course, there's absolutely no credible evidence to support anything like the supposed BELIEFS that the poll is suggesting.

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[owl sees all]

A lot of people trusted the white-coats and the politicians when they uttered those magic words; 'safe and effective'. Now the chickens are coming home.

 

Let's hope the 'still-alives' will be more scrutinous next time.

 

The biggest word in the dictionary is ''no''.

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

A lot of people trusted the white-coats and the politicians when they uttered those magic words; 'safe and effective'. Now the chickens are coming home.

 

Let's hope the 'still-alives' will be more scrutinous next time.

 

The biggest word in the dictionary is ''no''.

Nearly half (47%) say they know someone personally who died from the COVID-19 virus

[Red Phoenix]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Nearly half (47%) say they know someone personally who died from the COVID-19 virus

Yes, and almost as many (42%) say that, if there was a major class-action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects, they would be likely to join the lawsuit.

[2baht]

11 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

The biggest word in the dictionary is ''no''.

 

     Some say nope, I could never understand why! Nope Parking? Nope Left Turn? Nope Smoking, Nope Brains???  🤔

 

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by 2baht

[OneMoreFarang]

Americans. Nuff said.

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by OneMoreFarang

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

You also have to wonder when the poll puts these two very different questions back to back in a telephone survey, what the potential is for respondents to focus on their answer to the first question, deaths due to COVID, and then think the second question is the same as the first.

 

"1* Do you know someone personally who died from the COVID-19 virus?

2* Do you know someone personally who died from side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine?"

 

Rasmussen, a conservative leaning pollster, has been accused in the past of wording its surveys to help get a result that supports particular conservative views.

 

"Rasmussen has received criticism over the wording in its polls.^[101][102] Asking a polling question with different wording can affect the results of the poll;^[103] the commentators in question allege that the questions Rasmussen ask in polls are skewed in order to favor a specific response. For instance, when Rasmussen polled whether Republican voters thought Rush Limbaugh was the leader of their party, the specific question they asked was: "Agree or Disagree: 'Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party—he says jump and they say how high.'"^[102]"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasmussen_Reports

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Captain Monday]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Americans. Nuff said.

 

Exactly. Ask the same cohort how many hold a passport?

How many believe a Bible is 100 percent accurate and true word of ”God”

How may believe tax cuts for the rich create jobs , the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, and owning a gun makes them ” free”？

Edited November 3, 2023 by Captain Monday

[owl sees all]

8 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yes, and almost as many (42%) say that, if there was a major class-action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects, they would be likely to join the lawsuit.

 

Side effects??!! More like direct effects.

 

The lucky ones, who took the shots, and came out unscathed, probably had the inert variety. Everyone - worldwide - who had a proper mRNA jab will have problems says Dr Cahill. During the 5 years after the jab.

 

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Now for a dose of reality, vs anti-vaxer wet dreams:

 

No Evidence Excess Deaths Linked to Vaccines, Contrary to Claims Online

April 17, 2023

 

"COVID-19 vaccines substantially reduce the risk of dying from COVID-19, and serious side effects are very rare.

...

Finally, there is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines have killed large numbers of people. The Food and Drug Administration and CDC have multiple systems for monitoring vaccine safety, and they have detected very few deaths caused by the vaccines."

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/04/scicheck-no-evidence-excess-deaths-linked-to-vaccines-contrary-to-claims-online/

 

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yes, and almost as many (42%) say that, if there was a major class-action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects, they would be likely to join the lawsuit.

 

Since majority of republicans believe that the Qanon conspiracies are true then that's hardly surprising, belief and facts and not the same thing. This is a belief poll.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

18 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Nearly half (47%) say they know someone personally who died from the COVID-19 virus

 

Very curious how the poll's news release buried that particular response way down in their reported results.... choosing instead to focus on the much smaller anti-vax result...

 

[OneMoreFarang]

15 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

Exactly. Ask the same cohort how many hold a passport?

How many believe a Bible is 100 percent accurate and true word of ”God”

How may believe tax cuts for the rich create jobs , the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, and owning a gun makes them ” free”？

And don't forget that they all know that they are the smartest people on earth living in the most civilized country.

It would be funny if it wouldn't be so sad. 

[OneMoreFarang]

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Very curious how the poll's news release buried that particular response way down in their reported results.... choosing instead to focus on the much smaller anti-vax result...

 

Maybe it's the fact that many of us know people who died from Covid.

But most of us won't know anybody who died because of the vaccine. 

Where is the official statistic how many people died because of the vaccine? 

[owl sees all]

 

Kary Mullis stated many times that the PCR test was not a diagnostic one. Which is isn't. He died mysteriously in 2019. Convenient that; for the jab pushers.

 

The whole covid narrative seemed to be driven by PCR test results.

[mfd101]

1 hour ago, proton said:

Belief is often different from reality

Yes, Usofans live in a highly suggestible society.

[BE88]

36 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

 

Side effects??!! More like direct effects.

 

The lucky ones, who took the shots, and came out unscathed, probably had the inert variety. Everyone - worldwide - who had a proper mRNA jab will have problems says Dr Cahill. During the 5 years after the jab.

 

www.howbadinmybatch.com 

 

 

And when they find out they have cancer, the doctors will say you weren't lucky

 

[Bkk Brian]

15 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

 

Kary Mullis stated many times that the PCR test was not a diagnostic one. Which is isn't. He died mysteriously in 2019. Convenient that; for the jab pushers.

 

The whole covid narrative was driven by the PCR teat results.

He died of pneumonia aged 74, nothing mysterious about it owl..................

[sandyf]

20 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Now for a dose of reality, vs anti-vaxer wet dreams:

 

No Evidence Excess Deaths Linked to Vaccines, Contrary to Claims Online

April 17, 2023

 

"COVID-19 vaccines substantially reduce the risk of dying from COVID-19, and serious side effects are very rare.

...

Finally, there is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines have killed large numbers of people. The Food and Drug Administration and CDC have multiple systems for monitoring vaccine safety, and they have detected very few deaths caused by the vaccines."

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/04/scicheck-no-evidence-excess-deaths-linked-to-vaccines-contrary-to-claims-online/

 

The thread is certainly skewed and ambiguous. There were several covid vaccines and all cannot be seen on the same basis, a bit like saying people are male.

However it cannot be ruled out that new style vaccines may create problems that have yet to come to light.

In the winter of 2021 a friend of mine developed Pemphigoid and became so bad he became suicidal. It took the medics best part of a year to bring it under control. In Oct 22 he was called to have a covid booster jab and very shortly after the condition had flared up again. Fortunately with some experience under their belt the doctors brought it back under control reasonably quickly, he will now have to manage the condition for the rest of his life.

Late 2022 reports from the US started to emerge regarding the condition and the MRNA vaccine and the UK has also picked up on it. My friend's arm was a bit like that in the second set of pictures.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9580082/

 

Personally I had 4 AZ jabs and would  be quite happy to have another.

[owl sees all]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

He died of pneumonia aged 74, nothing mysterious about it owl..................

 

So I've heard. Good timing that was.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, owl sees all said:

 

So I've heard. Good timing that was.

Seems your doubting his own wife who stated this. How disrespectful

[Amethyst]

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[owl sees all]

8 minutes ago, sandyf said:

The thread is certainly skewed and ambiguous. There were several covid vaccines and all cannot be seen on the same basis, a bit like saying people are male.

However it cannot be ruled out that new style vaccines may create problems that have yet to come to light.

In the winter of 2021 a friend of mine developed Pemphigoid and became so bad he became suicidal. It took the medics best part of a year to bring it under control. In Oct 22 he was called to have a covid booster jab and very shortly after the condition had flared up again. Fortunately with some experience under their belt the doctors brought it back under control reasonably quickly, he will now have to manage the condition for the rest of his life.

Late 2022 reports from the US started to emerge regarding the condition and the MRNA vaccine and the UK has also picked up on it. My friend's arm was a bit like that in the second set of pictures.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9580082/

 

Personally I had 4 AZ jabs and would  be quite happy to have another.

This complaint (Pemphigoid) is, IMO, the body desperately trying to rid itself of toxins. Nothing to do with the skin really. Problems with the blood and liver.

 

Of course he did the right thing in consulting his medical expert.

[sandyf]

9 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

This complaint (Pemphigoid) is, IMO, the body desperately trying to rid itself of toxins. Nothing to do with the skin really. Problems with the blood and liver.

Your opinion is irrelevant, and particularly in respect of the thread.

Don't you think you should have read the article from SAGE first.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Where is the official statistic how many people died because of the vaccine? 

 

It's hard to find that kind of data, but here's one reference I've found for the U.S., per the Associated Press in an April report:

 

"Only nine deaths caused by COVID-19 vaccines have been confirmed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Those cases were causally associated with rare blood clots caused by the Johnson & Johnson shot, which has been largely sidelined by officials."

 

"More than 674 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines had been administered in the U.S. as of Friday."

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccine-600000-americans-978248674052

 

[Red Phoenix]

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

It's hard to find that kind of data, but here's one reference I've found for the U.S., per the Associated Press in an April report:

 

"Only nine deaths caused by COVID-19 vaccines have been confirmed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Those cases were causally associated with rare blood clots caused by the Johnson & Johnson shot, which has been largely sidelined by officials."

 

"More than 674 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines had been administered in the U.S. as of Friday."

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccine-600000-americans-978248674052

 

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The key-word in that ridiculous Fact-check report is that the CDC only CONFIRMED nine deaths caused by Covid-19 vaccines.

And this while 24% of the US population - approx 80 million people - say that they know someone that died from taking the covid-19 vaccine.  Even if 99% of them would be mistaken and they died from a different cause, that would still leave 800.000 people knowing someone that died from the vaccine. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 minute ago, Red Phoenix said:

And this while 24% of the US population - approx 80 million people - say that they know someone that died from taking the covid-19 vaccine.

 

That's what the poll claims those people BELIEVE.... which is a whole different matter from what's actually true.

[Red Phoenix]

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

That's what the poll claims those people BELIEVE.... which is a whole different matter from what's actually true.

Yes, and if even 99% of them would be mistaken and they died from a different cause, that would still leave 800.000 people knowing someone that died from the vaccine. 

But you BELIEVE that only nine people died from the covid-19 vaccine, because those are the only cases that the CDC confirmed.