TorquayFan Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 George, as you don't mention again, I assume you now accept that I did not report your original post. Re. this, 'Again I ask you, what are your qualifications, training and experience on fires and fire investigation?' That's another bit of nonsense. FWIW I have NO such 'qualifications' - but how is that relevant at all ? It's natural enough these days, that the first question which arises when a vehicle catches fire, is whether it's an EV or an ICE. So I wonder why we sometimes cannot be told. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 12 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: It's (was) only an ordinary BMW, many Thais are able to buy them so why not a police officer, especially the Deputy Chief of Police? Have you never heard of financing or trading up, how many people, generally, buy their cars outright? Its a 08-15 series 7. Price on one2car is 399k to 1 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorquayFan Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Thanks Ralf. That would make it an ICE then ! I looked at the 2nd pic again - there it doesn't seem to me, to have that characteristic BMW grill in the middle at the front? There is a burn through of the bonnet at front left, (looking forwards from the car). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, TorquayFan said: Thanks Ralf. That would make it an ICE then ! Not sure if sold in Thailand but 10-15 models did have hybrid version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorquayFan Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Cheers Ralf - then the 'BMW' would be more likely and IMO, to be an ICE, rather than a hybrid, but I note the possibility. Did you see the burn right through the steel of the bonnet ! Wow ! Have a look at the 'grill' in the second picture? The characteristic BMW centrepiece grill is not evident (to me) - maybe that's a 7 series thing. BUT it does look like the BMW badge on the top in the middle of the bonnet at the front? Cheers ATB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Off topic deflection posts about EV fires in the UK and the replies have been removed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Remarkable thread, the topic is Police corruption and it got diverted into EV bashing. Why are people so paranoid about the demise of ICE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorquayFan Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Ben you are incorrect - the report is about a vehicle fire. The ignoble suggestion was made that a Policeman owning a luxury sedan presupposes corruption. It's reasonable to want to know if it was an EV fire - that's all. We don't know for sure BUT it seems it's probably an ICE fire. ATB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKBike09 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 15 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: "Patong-A fire in Kathu destroyed a luxury sedan belonging to a Patong Police officer". The Deputy Chief, not just "a police officer". Given you're a stickler for detail .. actually a Pol Lt Col who is Deputy Chief of the Investigation Division at Patong Police Station. https://www.dailynews.co.th/news/2993854/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Ralf001 said: 15 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: It's (was) only an ordinary BMW, many Thais are able to buy them so why not a police officer, especially the Deputy Chief of Police? Have you never heard of financing or trading up, how many people, generally, buy their cars outright? Its a 08-15 series 7. Price on one2car is 399k to 1 million. I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: I know. Others did not, they too now know.... if they bother to read the thread before grinding their finger to nubs on the keyboard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 A post with a trolling image contravening our Community Standards has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritScot Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 10:47 AM, Liverpool Lou said: "Petrol/diesel fires normally ignite and burn under the hood". From the remarkably clear OP..." "All of a sudden, smoke began coming out from the engine room in front". Battery fires are very quick, you would not notice the flames to start with. From the photo and other Battery fires I've seen this looks typical. Do a little Google search of ev fires especially China. This vehicle is possibly a hybrid so there will also be petrol or diesel fire. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritScot Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 10:52 AM, GroveHillWanderer said: Did you even bother reading the article? According to it - and as per a statement by the vehicle owner, "under the hood" is exactly where the fire started. Which as you rightly point out, is where petrol vehicle fires normally start. "The police officer who owned the vehicle told reporters that he was heading back from Patong to his house in Mueang Phuket. All of a sudden, smoke began coming out from the engine room in front." Yes I realise that is whay is in the article. However, I am looking with my eyes and what I'm seeing is intense heat fire source in the area of where a battery is situated and not where the fuel tank is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritScot Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 12:00 PM, Georgealbert said: Seems you reading skills are about the same as you knowledge and experience of car fires, zero. But why let facts get in the way of your agenda. Maybe you need to research, open your eyes before believing everything you read as literal! Phew! Some people.... bahhh, bahhh, bahhh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, BritScot said: Maybe you need to research, open your eyes before believing everything you read as literal! Phew! Some people.... bahhh, bahhh, bahhh. 55555 So what are you qualifications, training and experience of fire investigations? I do not need to do the research, I know what I am talking about. You do know that EV batteries are not under the bonnet/hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, BritScot said: Yes I realise that is whay is in the article. However, I am looking with my eyes and what I'm seeing is intense heat fire source in the area of where a battery is situated and not where the fuel tank is. Its a 2008-2015 Series 7. The batteries arenot in the front of the vehicle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 hours ago, BritScot said: Yes I realise that is whay is in the article. However, I am looking with my eyes and what I'm seeing is intense heat fire source in the area of where a battery is situated and not where the fuel tank is. "Yes I realise that is whay is in the article". Makes so much sense to ignore what was said by a witness, then, eh? You think ICE-fuelled cars don't have fuel lines under the car to carry fuel from the rear tank to the engine (not to mention brake lines and transmission lines)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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