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I thought that a cat who is still feeding milk to her babies could not get pregnant during that time, is this true??

My cat has a growing belly, we've noticed it over the last couple of days but she is still feeding her kittens who are approx. 10 weeks old...

Any help appreciated!

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Local vet told me that my cat could be impregnated again shortly after having a litter. So, yes, eventhough she is currently lactating, she could be pregnant again.

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Cats also have an estrous period 1-6 weeks after giving birth, so a female may be nursing one litter while pregnant with another.

Lactating Cats : some of them will be in estrous in 10 days after laboured.

Non-Lactating Cats : They will be in estrus cycle in a week.

her kittens who are approx. 10 weeks old...

In your case, It's in the weaning period (6-8 wks) and You cat is going to a new estrous cycle. She may get whether pregnancy or not (it may be pseudo pregnancy).

Did you see a wound on her neck(back side) Mostly for male cats bites female when they have sex intercourse.

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In Thailand even spayed cats can get pregnant. We had two young cats about 3 months old and took them to vet in Phong Khon for surgery. We waited about 3 hours for him to do surgery on the first one only to have him tell us that the cat died during the operation. So he started on the second one, who did indeed survive the surgery. So even though highly irritated at this "Doctor" we paid him 1000 baht, 500 for each cat, and took our two cats home and burried one but still satisfied that we had done the right thing.

After about another 6 months the survivor cat came home pregnant, with bite marks on her neck, and gave birth to a single very, very small creature. It did not survive.

So I was going to talk with the police but decided against it since there was absolutely no proof that the Doctor in question had done the surgery and since I paid cash would have a hard time dealing with such a "stalwart citizen" of the community. So decided better to not do anything about it beyond informing as many people as I could about the quality of vet service available in Phong Khon. I know there are good Doctors there but I sure managed to find a clutz.

So to stick to the OP, yes, your cat can get pregnant quckly again and please do not take it to Phong Khon for check up.

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thanks for the replies, well judging by the rock solidness of her belly I can almost guarantee that she is now pregnant, this is not good.

I already have the mum, the dad & 4 fast growing kittens, I was following advice from 2 friends of ours who apparently have cats and know a lot about them, they told us that the mum cannot get pregnant again whilst lactating so we were comfortable to get her 'done' once the kittens were old enough to not need her milk any more :D

I love cats - despite being allergic to them - but I cannot have the 6 we have already and the possibility of another 4, what can I do??

Thanks in advance

Nikkijah :o

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I hear you and am right there with you.. .. we have started spaying and neutering .. we did two yesterday and will do another two next week. But when done we still have 8 cats. Three babies have been committed but until the people actually pick them up I am thinking they are permanent house guests. Your going to have to find homes for the new litter. Good luck!

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how much do you pay to neuter each cat swain?

I go to the Chiang Mai University pet hospital and they charge 600 baht for a boy and 800 baht for a girl ... that includes the medication after and the blood test before and the follow up visit 3 days later. Its a learning pet hospital but I am MUCH happier with the level of competence there than anyplace else I have been to in Chaing mai. I can get you the phone number and or times they are open if you like just pm me.

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how much do you pay to neuter each cat swain?

I go to the Chiang Mai University pet hospital and they charge 600 baht for a boy and 800 baht for a girl ... that includes the medication after and the blood test before and the follow up visit 3 days later. Its a learning pet hospital but I am MUCH happier with the level of competence there than anyplace else I have been to in Chaing mai. I can get you the phone number and or times they are open if you like just pm me.

Thanks swain but I'm in Bangkok :o

Perhaps there is something similar in Bangkok?...

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Thanks swain but I'm in Bangkok :o

Perhaps there is something similar in Bangkok?...

Being a vet in Bkk,I would say that the price of desexing depends on the anesthesia drug.

( Gov. vet hospital in Universities are cheaper)

OK..

1) If a vet can order Ketamine( need to ask for it from the Ministry of Public Health) - spaying is about 600-800 Bht and neutering is about 300 Bht

2)If a vet have Nembutal in his/her stock , spaying is about 800-1000 and neutering is about 400 Bht

3)If a vet have Zoletil in his/her clinic ,spaying is about 1200-3000+ and neutering is about 500-700 bht

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But she'll just get pregnant again :o

Oh dear :D (1.5-2 mths after birth is a perfect time (less bleeding and inactivated mammary gland)

In my(only) opinion, spaying a cat who has fertilized eggs as 20 days olds is acceptable (there are not fetus yet)

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In terms of places to go in Bkk area, I highly recommend the animal hospital at Mahidol University Salaya Campus (teaching hospital...good quality care at low cost, and they are quite kind and affectionate with the animals). Open 8 - 12 and 1-4 PM M-Fri and mornings only Saturday. I can give you directions if I know where you are coming from in Bkk.

There is also a Small Animal Clinic at Kasetsart University (Lad Prao area), I have no personal experience with it but have heard it is good.

Another affordable source is the Animal Hospital on Ramkamhaeng road near the ring road exit, next to a Lemon Farm shop. It is non-profit and under Royal Patronage. I believe they charge 1200 Baht for female cats.

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In terms of places to go in Bkk area, I highly recommend the animal hospital at Mahidol University Salaya Campus (teaching hospital...good quality care at low cost, and they are quite kind and affectionate with the animals). Open 8 - 12 and 1-4 PM M-Fri and mornings only Saturday. I can give you directions if I know where you are coming from in Bkk.

There is also a Small Animal Clinic at Kasetsart University (Lad Prao area), I have no personal experience with it but have heard it is good.

Another affordable source is the Animal Hospital on Ramkamhaeng road near the ring road exit, next to a Lemon Farm shop. It is non-profit and under Royal Patronage. I believe they charge 1200 Baht for female cats.

Sheryl, do you have phone numbers of both hospitals?

Nienke

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There is also a Small Animal Clinic at Kasetsart University (Lad Prao area), I have no personal experience with it but have heard it is good.

Another affordable source is the Animal Hospital on Ramkamhaeng road near the ring road exit, next to a Lemon Farm shop. It is non-profit and under Royal Patronage. I believe they charge 1200 Baht for female cats.

I read that the Kasetsart staff goes to examine the royal family's dogs every Sunday, I assume they must be really good.

Article here:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/06/03...es_30005622.php

I will be moving to Bangkok in a week, and would be very interested in finding an excellent vet. My dog (giant schnauzer, 70 lbs., male, 4 years old) was just diagnosed with a heart murmur. I don't want to change the topic of this thread so I have started my own thread here:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=141946

If you have any advice it would be appreciated. thanks!

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Thanks for the advice BambinA!

How soon after birth should I get the mum done?

1.5-2 mths

I suspect that my persian is pregnant and if so I would like to have her spayed afterwards. She is 1 year old.

I assume there is no great variation between breeds in this matter and your advice of 1.5-2 months applies to a persian too.

If I can ensure she doesn't go out of the house (to get pregnant again) what is the longest I should wait? How soon after giving birth will she go on heat again - ie with all the usual nuisance of howling and rolling about?

Grateful for any advice you have.

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just had my two cats spayed who had litters, 3 and 4 months after giving birth. the one with the younger litter was pregnant (from their brother which i cannot catch for taking to the vet...) for one month already again, the vet said.

did not want to spay earlier as the litter is still with the moms and drank occasionally from them. but i kept them separated from the male brother and inside the house. after i put them back together the male immediately went on at least one female again and she got pregnant.

maybe you just keep the mom with her litter in a room, to provide a safe nursing and then get her spayed when litter is about 2-3 months old? just a thought as we had some orphanes here since mothers had accidents and babies were not able to eat food yet...

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If you are not able to keep the cat indoors then better not wait too long. The mother can safely be spayed anytime after the delivery, the issue is separating her from the kittens when she is nursing. I would say, as soon as the kittens are eating solid food to be able to do without nursing for a day, take her in. After she comes back home it is best the kittens not nurse until she's alert again otherwise some snesthetic might pass in the breastmilk.

If you can be sure of confining the cat indoors then can wait longer i.e. 2 months as lonmg as no sign of being in heat.

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I am a bit confused.

I have here 4 kittens (2 male, 2 female) they are 4 months old.

Can they have (the) operation?

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Alex, I went through that recently for some kittens and all the vets I contacted said not until 5-6 months old. I had them done at 5 months. (I think it will depend a bit on their size and health)

In the US they do spay at earlier ages but in Thailand they seem not to.

If your kittens are confined indoors then not much risk waiting till they are 6 months, or go into heat, whichever comes first. If they are able to get outdoors then I'd usggest bringing them in by 5 months of age.

Sometimes the vet will say 6 months by phone but when they see the kiten agree to do it earlier if the kitten looks large and healthy enough.

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