Trump on trial: What to watch for in the second E. Jean Carroll defamation case

[Danderman123]

9 hours ago, retarius said:

 Besides that I saw Marla Maples in person and I don't think Trump would have anything to do with the likes of E Jean. 

He couldn't even tell them apart in his deposition.

[Danderman123]

This trial is very educational in highlighting the differences between state and Federal courts.

 

Despite all the Trump fluffer yammering about persecution of Trump, this trial is about whether Trump can control himself, both in court, and in the real world, where he must stop from defaming Ms. Carroll.

 

Spoiler alert: he can't, because he's a mental case.

[jerrymahoney]

From the original complaint this trial: 

 

 

Trump seeks to stop second E. Jean Carroll lawsuit
JUNE 7, 2023

 

In a filing last month, Carroll's attorneys sought to amend the earlier lawsuit to add a new defamation claim after Trump trashed her as a “wack job” at a CNN town hall after the verdict last month.

 

The proposed amended suit also changed mentions of "rape" to "sexual abuse" or "sexual assault." Trump's filing notes the amended complaint removed 71 uses of the word "rape."

 

Trump lawyer Alina Habba said in a statement that Carroll was trying to "retrofit" her lawsuit "while blatantly ignoring the portion that undermines the viability of her claim."

"Faced with the Carroll II jury's rejection of her rape accusation, Ms. Carroll now seeks to remove nearly every reference of the word 'rape' in her complaint and abandon the narrative she has conveyed to the public for years," Habba said.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-seeks-stop-second-e-jean-carroll-lawsuit-rcna87921

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

From the original complaint this trial: 

 

 

Trump seeks to stop second E. Jean Carroll lawsuit
JUNE 7, 2023

 

In a filing last month, Carroll's attorneys sought to amend the earlier lawsuit to add a new defamation claim after Trump trashed her as a “wack job” at a CNN town hall after the verdict last month.

 

The proposed amended suit also changed mentions of "rape" to "sexual abuse" or "sexual assault." Trump's filing notes the amended complaint removed 71 uses of the word "rape."

 

Trump lawyer Alina Habba said in a statement that Carroll was trying to "retrofit" her lawsuit "while blatantly ignoring the portion that undermines the viability of her claim."

"Faced with the Carroll II jury's rejection of her rape accusation, Ms. Carroll now seeks to remove nearly every reference of the word 'rape' in her complaint and abandon the narrative she has conveyed to the public for years," Habba said.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-seeks-stop-second-e-jean-carroll-lawsuit-rcna87921

And the lawsuit is for ‘defamation’.

 

Trump defamed Carroll intront of camera within hours of losin the first case.

 

His ranting in court this week is an indication of how things are going.

[jerrymahoney]

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And the lawsuit is for ‘defamation’.

Trump defamed Carroll intront of camera within hours of losin the first case.

 

His ranting in court this week is an indication of how things are going.

So if Judge Kaplan said in the above link that 'rape' is any forcible penetration, why did the Carroll team have to make 70+ amendments to their original complaint from "rape" to "sexual assault"?

 

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

 

https://archive.md/dwhsS#selection-705.1-711.129

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

18 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

So if Judge Kaplan said in the above link that 'rape' is any forcible penetration, why did the Carroll team have to make 70+ amendments to their original complaint from "rape" to "sexual assault"?

 

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

 

https://archive.md/dwhsS#selection-705.1-711.129

 

 

I have no idea whatsoever, which is almost certainly as much an idea as you do.

 

The trial is examining Trump’s later defamation of Carroll, which he has continued to do in the court room, while Carroll is on the witness stand giving her testimony, and significantly in earshot of the jury.

 

The jury gets to decide if Trump defamed Carroll, the same jury that have witnessed him do exactly that  in the court room.

 

Tell us again how Trump is getting away with it all.

 

[jerrymahoney]

45 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

Tell us again how Trump is getting away with it all.

I certainly expect he will lose this round. 

 

And as per Jamie Foxx, I have looked at the files when available of a lot of these high-profile NY State victims cases especially the one-off cases

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, jerrymahoney said:

I certainly expect he will lose this round. 

Carroll needs to hope she can get an early ruling, there might not be anything left after NY have taken their slice.

[jerrymahoney]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Carroll needs to hope she can get an early ruling, there might not be anything left after NY have taken their slice.

She is actually in a good state financially because, if Trump wants to appeal, he has to present cash or a bond. There is already $5 million for her in a court account from the first jury ruling.

[Danderman123]

On 1/17/2024 at 8:39 PM, EVENKEEL said:

Of course it's crazy to have this in our court system. It's absurd, just an old lady with a fanciful memory.

so, what do you think of Trump's legal team?