How Many Foreigners Living in Thailand

[timxxx]

The number is def higher since 24.2.2022

[NanLaew]

On 2/24/2024 at 3:45 PM, Dan O said:

You don't need to change your passport or citizenship to be an expat but you do need to reside in the country as your permanent home. A global traveler that continually moves locations or countries isn't really an expat but more a nomad. 

Semantics

 

Expat is from the Latin 'ex-patria' and you live outside (ex) your birth country (patria). It has nothing to do with residence or permanent home. When you are repatriated, you are returning to your birth country.

 

Nomad is a catchy modern distortion of the original meaning of nomadic which infers travelling people of no fixed abode. They are still expatriates if they are outside their birth country.

Edited Wednesday at 07:02 AM by NanLaew

[Dan O]

21 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Semantics

 

Expat is from the Latin 'ex-patria' and you live outside (ex) your birth country (patria). It has nothing to do with residence or permanent home. When you are repatriated, you are returning to your birth country.

 

Nomad is a catchy modern distortion of the original meaning of nomadic which infers travelling people of no fixed abode. They are still expatriates if they are outside their birth country.

you're real current with your comment to an 8 month old discussion. Maybe you should go back and read the post from the beginning as we were discussing tax status and I stand by my statements in that context. I believe you are the one using semantics in this case.

 

It's just semantics' is a common retort people use when arguing their point. What they mean is that their argument or opinion is more valid than the other person's. It's a way to be dismissive of language itself as carrier for ideas.

[NanLaew]

22 hours ago, Dan O said:

you're real current with your comment to an 8 month old discussion. Maybe you should go back and read the post from the beginning as we were discussing tax status and I stand by my statements in that context. I believe you are the one using semantics in this case.

 

It's just semantics' is a common retort people use when arguing their point. What they mean is that their argument or opinion is more valid than the other person's. It's a way to be dismissive of language itself as carrier for ideas.

I was specifically addressing the misunderstanding and misuse of the term expat.

 

I am not interested in debating other people's tax status, just how they describe themselves.

 

Note that the term "expat" isn't used to define a person's income tax status in any jurisdiction.

 

I'm not dismissive of anyone's argument or opinion. I'm just clarifying the meaning if the word expat and how it has no bearing with regard to tax.

[Dan O]

11 hours ago, NanLaew said:

I was specifically addressing the misunderstanding and misuse of the term expat.

 

I am not interested in debating other people's tax status, just how they describe themselves.

 

Note that the term "expat" isn't used to define a person's income tax status in any jurisdiction.

 

I'm not dismissive of anyone's argument or opinion. I'm just clarifying the meaning if the word expat and how it has no bearing with regard to tax.

Trying to dig out of your hole.  No one said using the term expat was for tax purposes, it was in reference to a group of people.  I don't think anyone misunderstood what was being discussed. 

[JimHuaHin]

Since Thailand is such an innovative technological hub, it amazes me that it is not possible for the Immigration people to produce a table of, say, (1) exactly how many people arrived in Thailand on day x from country y under visa z, or (2) as of day z, how many long-stay foreigners were in Thailand yesterday under visa x from country y?

[NanLaew]

11 hours ago, Dan O said:

Trying to dig out of your hole.  No one said using the term expat was for tax purposes, it was in reference to a group of people.  I don't think anyone misunderstood what was being discussed. 

 

No hole here @Dan O, none whatsoever. Despite being incorrect, if you think that your interpretation of the meaning of "expat" fits the discussion, that's entirely up to you and I'm happy to leave you in your world of low comprehension.

 

And please don't preach to anyone about reading the whole thread either. It's not a good look. Especially when the OP is not about taxation.

 

[NanLaew]

57 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Since Thailand is such an innovative technological hub, it amazes me that it is not possible for the Immigration people to produce a table of, say, (1) exactly how many people arrived in Thailand on day x from country y under visa z, or (2) as of day z, how many long-stay foreigners were in Thailand yesterday under visa x from country y?

Because it's not their job to produce such a granular list for public consumption?

 

Anyway, they give the raw data to TAT and they cherry-pick and massage the numbers to fit their part of the government's agenda. In this way, relevant factual data is obscured by what they want people to believe, ie. the Chinese are Thailand's saviours.