Cannabis & Melanoma

[mfd101]

Cannabis specialists on AN will be delighted to learn that, according to a report in today's Australian Business Review, a new Aussie study has found that cannabis can kill melanoma.

[Pouatchee]

On 3/7/2024 at 2:25 PM, mfd101 said:

Cannabis specialists on AN will be delighted to learn that, according to a report in today's Australian Business Review, a new Aussie study has found that cannabis can kill melanoma.

 

dude... my dad is a physician retired (endocrinologist) with benign melanomas. if weed were proven to work on skin cancer i am sure he would have found a way to use it either by edibles or whatever... and weed is legal in canada. can you provide a link to this article?

Edited March 9 by Pouatchee

[mfd101]

17 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

 

dude... my dad is a physician retired (endocrinologist) with benign melanomas. if weed were proven to work on skin cancer i am sure he would have found a way to use it either by edibles or whatever... and weed is legal in canada. can you provide a link to this article?

Not sure whether a non-subscriber can get in, but for what it's worth: theaustralian.com.au of last Thursday and go to the Business Review section.

 

So here's an extract for you, Dude:

 

"While treatment could still be years away, the in-vitro study showed there are anti-cancer effects of a specific extract from cannabis sativa called PHEC-66.

"According to the study, this strain forces melanoma cells into a “programmed cell death”, also known as apoptosis.

"The cannabis extract works by attaching itself to the receptor on the melanoma cell surface, and changes the messages to the inside of the cell to manipulate the normal growth ie: force it to go into death progress.

“If we know how they react to cancer cells, particularly in the cause of cell death, we can refine treatment techniques to be more specific, responsive and effective,” said study co-author Dr Nazim Nassar.

"Dr Nassar said the next challenge was to develop a targeted delivery system to the melanoma cells, enabling pre-clinical trials."

Edited March 9 by mfd101

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

Didn't seem to help Bob Marley very much.

[stoner]

1 hour ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Didn't seem to help Bob Marley very much.

 

eation don't worry ...about a thing...every little things...gonna be alright.

Edited March 9 by stoner

[bamnutsak]

9 hours ago, mfd101 said:

the in-vitro study showed

 

'Nuff said.

 

 

[Chainsaw]

Check out Rick Simpson - Run From The Cure

[Pouatchee]

 

13 hours ago, mfd101 said:

So here's an extract for you, Dude:

 

 

i dont want an extract dude.

https://www.cdu.edu.au/news/new-study-reveals-kill-order-melanoma-cells-cannabis-extract

 

3 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

'Nuff said.

 

i love these smart as_ comments with 'nuff said' it's like you think you know enough to close the discussion, which i doubt you can bamnutsak. in case you havent noticed, i am not against weed, but rather totally for it. i am skeptical that it will cure cancer though. fyi, there are 2 types of cancer. the benign cancer and malignant cancer. IF weed can treat one type of cancer it doesnt necessarily mean that it will treat the other. when cancer metastasizes there is usually nothing much that can be done from that point on depending on how quickly it has been caught. so dude @mfd101, before spreading your sarcasm give a link to the article rather than give a short passage the link i found might be different. your article, if serious, should detail what kind of cancer the treatment weed was used on and what stage the patients, or tissue samples taken from patients, were at. the article i found dated 8 february does not.

 

i have chronic neck pain and smoking weed has never helped with this, contrary to what people claim. i have tried a balm given to me by stoner and it does seem to help. however, cancer is a totally different story. would i like this to be true? hell yeah. but research like this takes years to conduct, and although it may be true, more often than not the results are inconclusive. and @bamnutsak just because the tests are done in vitro doesnt mean they are a guarantee if success. in vitro fertilization comes to mind here... it doesnt always work

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Lead author and RMIT biotechnologist Professor Nitin Mantri emphasised the necessity for a long-term follow-up to ensure the sustained effectiveness and safety of the PHEC-66 extract in cancer treatment over extended periods. 

He stressed the importance of testing the safety profile of the extract before its widespread adoption.

"The subsequent stage involves animal studies or pre-clinical trials to validate and further explore the efficacy of cannabinoid PHEC-66 in treating melanoma and other cancers,” Professor Mantri said.

He highlighted the critical collaboration with Dr Nassar, emphasising the need for support and sponsorship from pharmaceutical companies to qualify PHEC-66 as a registered medicine. 

This support is essential for advancing the development and application of cannabis extracts in cancer treatment, leveraging Dr Nassar's expertise as a healthcare professional, pharmacologist, and pharmaceutical scientist.

 

so... they are still looking for funding, basically and often enough researchers will do anything to get funding, such as making claims they cannot substantiate. 

 

i repeat, i would love nothing more other than for this cure to work, but i am skeptical and any release of said cure is still likely decades away.

 

'nuff said

 

 

Edited March 10 by Pouatchee

[bamnutsak]

33 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

i love these smart as_ comments with 'nuff said'

 

33 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

'nuff said

 

 

in vitro

What does in vitro mean?
outside the living body and in an artificial environment. Etymology. Latin, literally, "in glass"

 

 

Bleach might kill viruses, in vitro. No one would ever suggest consuming bleach.

 

 

When it comes to battling cancer I think the main point of interest would be "in vivo".

 

 

35 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

it's like you think you know enough to close the discussion

 

I am stating my opinion, not trying to shut down the discussion. 

 

 

[Pouatchee]

19 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

I am stating my opinion, not trying to shut down the discussion.

 

so next time i want to state my opinion all i have to do is say " 'nuff said" right?... 

 

in vitro is usually the 1st stage of testing and in no way is it close to being compared to animal testing and eons away from human testing. so aren't you jumping the gun with your 'nuff said at the in vitro point?

 

19 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

When it comes to battling cancer I think the main point of interest would be "in vivo".

 

then why didn't you mention that? mfd's article, or quote is about in vitro not in vivo... which kinda proves the research might still not be worthy of jumping for joy

 

4 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

13 hours ago, mfd101 said:

the in-vitro study showed

 

'Nuff said.

 

 

Edited March 10 by Pouatchee

[Pouatchee]

4 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

13 hours ago, mfd101 said:

the in-vitro study showed

 

'Nuff said.

 

maybe i got you wrong. were you saying basically that in vitro did not amount to much in terms of research? if so, then we are in agreement. if so, you might have elaborated a bit more on it... and if i got you wrong, i apologize

[gargamon]

38 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Bleach might kill viruses, in vitro. No one would ever suggest consuming bleach.

Trump did. To kill covid. 

[Trippy]

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

Trump did. To kill covid. 

Chill out, it was a joke.

[gargamon]

11 minutes ago, Trippy said:

Chill out, it was a joke.

Hardly. I saw it live as the nonsense spouted out of Trump's mouth. It was at a covid status news conference. He was telling the experts they should try using bleach in the body. And lots of the MAGA rubes did try it and ended up in the hospital.

 

Why do all the right wing nuts always try to blame the nonsense that comes out of Trump's mouth as jokes? The man has no sense of humor and couldn't tell a joke if his life depended on it

 

 

 

 

[hotandsticky]

8 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Hardly. I saw it live as the nonsense spouted out of Trump's mouth. It was at a covid status news conference. He was telling the experts they should try using bleach in the body. And lots of the MAGA rubes did try it and ended up in the hospital.

 

Why do all the right wing nuts always try to blame the nonsense that comes out of Trump's mouth as jokes? The man has no sense of humor and couldn't tell a joke if his life depended on it

 

 

 

 

 

 

No wonder you post b0llox if you can't see the humour in that.

 

Trump will never be a Ronald Reagan but he does have a sense of humour. 

[transam]

8 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

No wonder you post b0llox if you can't see the humour in that.

 

Trump will never be a Ronald Reagan but he does have a sense of humour. 

....his colourful make-up proves it............😬

 

[hotandsticky]

21 minutes ago, transam said:

....his colourful make-up proves it............😬

 

 

 

Exactly Tranny, that is what a sense of humour is all about. 😉

 

Trump may be a laughing stock but what does that say about 50% of the electorate who would vote him back as president?

 

 

Even more, what does it say about the other 50% who voted that clown Biden in as president.😂😂

[transam]

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Exactly Tranny, that is what a sense of humour is all about. 😉

 

Trump may be a laughing stock but what does that say about 50% of the electorate who would vote him back as president?

 

 

Even more, what does it say about the other 50% who voted that clown Biden in as president.😂😂

Weeeeeeeeeeeeell, it is one or the other, that's it.........🤗

 

But, when you see the self-inflicted daily sh_t that follows Trump around, I would think you have to be incredibly stupid to believe a single thing that comes out of his orange face.  😖

[Bday Prang]

every time reports surface of alleged negative effects of cannabis the usual suspects intensify their calls for an outright ban.   Now that there is some positive news it is either dismissed of deflected from,  in this case even mentioning Donald Trump.   Are there actually any threads on this website where Trump is not mentioned? Certainly not very many