Popular Post Social Media Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 Former President Donald Trump is stepping into the legal spotlight once again as he faces a historic trial in Manhattan this month. Accused of orchestrating a hush money scheme to silence alleged mistresses before the 2016 election, Trump finds himself at the center of a case that marks the first criminal prosecution of a former US president. At the heart of the trial are payments made to two women: Karen McDougal, a Playboy model, and Stephanie Clifford, known as Stormy Daniels in the adult film industry. McDougal received $150,000 from the parent company of the National Enquirer, while Daniels was paid $130,000 by Trump's former fixer, Michael Cohen, to sign a nondisclosure agreement. These payments, made with the intention of suppressing potentially damaging information during the election campaign, have been deemed illegal. Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign finance charges related to the payments, and the National Enquirer's parent company admitted to making an unlawful campaign contribution, resulting in a significant fine. Trump himself has faced scrutiny over his involvement in the scheme. Initially denying knowledge of the payments, he later acknowledged his role but claimed they were unrelated to the campaign. However, the charges against him include falsifying business records to conceal damaging information from voters. If found guilty, Trump could face up to four years in state prison on each count. However, this trial is just one aspect of Trump's extensive legal troubles. In addition to facing other criminal trials and civil lawsuits, he is navigating the complexities of his post-presidential legal landscape. The trial promises to be a dramatic affair, with former Trump aides and adversaries expected to testify. It underscores the enduring fallout from Trump's presidency and the ongoing legal battles that define his legacy. While overshadowed by more recent controversies, such as attempts to overturn the 2020 election, the hush money case remains a significant chapter in Trump's legal saga. As the trial unfolds, it will provide insight into the intricate web of legal challenges facing the former president. From campaign finance violations to allegations of falsifying business records, the case delves into the complexities of Trump's business dealings and political maneuverings. Ultimately, the outcome of the trial could have far-reaching implications for Trump and his political future. While he continues to assert his innocence, the legal proceedings serve as a stark reminder of the legal jeopardy facing one of the most polarizing figures in modern American politics. 14.04.24 Source 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 I’m wondering how much he’s paying maliana to stick around she must be truly mortified to have her private pain dragged through the worlds media not to mention the risk to their money I bet things are a bit (tense) at mar a lardo! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 21 minutes ago, Tug said: I’m wondering how much he’s paying maliana to stick around she must be truly mortified to have her private pain dragged through the worlds media not to mention the risk to their money I bet things are a bit (tense) at mar a lardo! I assume that the prenuptial that she signed locks her in. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 Quote one of the most polarizing figures in modern American politics. That's such an understatement. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 No need to be explained. It is really a very simple case,involving campaign finance violations and falsification business records. One defendant was convicted , and not is the turn of the other. 1 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 The haters have spoken... no need for a trial... trump is guilty... string him up is the cry... pretty standard fare from the democratic party for decades now... hang him high. 4 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: The haters have spoken... no need for a trial... trump is guilty... string him up is the cry... pretty standard fare from the democratic party for decades now... hang him high. Steady on. Nobody is arguing there shouldn’t be a trial. There are those arguing Trump should be above the law. Pick a side on that. 3 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: Steady on. Nobody is arguing there shouldn’t be a trial. There are those arguing Trump should be above the law. Pick a side on that. And I quote... this is just one example... sireneou said... "No need to be explained. It is really a very simple case,involving campaign finance violations and falsification business records. One defendant was convicted , and not is the turn of the other." If you fail to see the implication that's on you... I have consistently picked the side of "EQUAL" application of the law to every criminal regardless of political affiliation... trump... gulliani... joe... menendez... pelosi... clinton... 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 9 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: And I quote... this is just one example... sireneou said... "No need to be explained. It is really a very simple case,involving campaign finance violations and falsification business records. One defendant was convicted , and not is the turn of the other." If you fail to see the implication that's on you... I have consistently picked the side of "EQUAL" application of the law to every criminal regardless of political affiliation... trump... gulliani... joe... menendez... pelosi... clinton... You have consistently whinged. Equal application of the law is what is going on here. Cohen faced justice for his part in these crimes, and now it’s Trump's turn to face justice. Cohen and Trump were both indicted by Grand Juries. Pelosi was not, Clinton was not…. 2 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: You have consistently whinged. Equal application of the law is what is going on here. Cohen faced justice for his part in these crimes, and now it’s Trump's turn to face justice. Cohen and Trump were both indicted by Grand Juries. Pelosi was not, Clinton was not…. What the four Trump indictments reveal about American democracy - Vox 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: What the four Trump indictments reveal about American democracy - Vox Buy some stock lol or how’s about some sneakers or perhaps a bible or two lol what’s going on here is trump is being held accountable for his actions……now I grant that if trump would have not tryed to steal the presidency and attempt a coup and continued to lie and undermine our country,if when he got his rearend handed him in 2020 he would have just gone down as one perhaps the #1 worst president in our history that most likely would have ended it oh well don’t do the crime if ya can’t do the time….. 2 1 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Tug said: Buy some stock lol or how’s about some sneakers or perhaps a bible or two lol what’s going on here is trump is being held accountable for his actions……now I grant that if trump would have not tryed to steal the presidency and attempt a coup and continued to lie and undermine our country,if when he got his rearend handed him in 2020 he would have just gone down as one perhaps the #1 worst president in our history that most likely would have ended it oh well don’t do the crime if ya can’t do the time….. Are you a bot... the little red wavy lines under the words and phrases that you spout mean that an error has been made... a third grade teacher would fail you... or maybe not given the state of today's "educators" 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said: The haters have spoken... no need for a trial... trump is guilty... Who said that??? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 So, it happened before the 2016 election, but they waited until the 2024 election to drag him into court. Like the 199? sexual assault trials... Decades later, and just in time for an election year. Election interference much? 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 25 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Are you a bot... the little red wavy lines under the words and phrases that you spout mean that an error has been made... a third grade teacher would fail you... or maybe not given the state of today's "educators" I know my grammer sucks we lost our breadwinner when I was a kid had to start working early and just got busy with life….oh well it all turned out just fine and no I’m not a bot just a very concerned American worried about the possibility of our democracy being destroyed 2 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 58 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: What the four Trump indictments reveal about American democracy - Vox Thanks for your link, I particularly liked this bit: “Such a [Trump’s] trial is unprecedented in American history, but it is exactly what’s supposed to happen in a democracy when a political leader (allegedly) commits crimes against democracy. (Trump denies he committed any crimes.) Democracy is, at the very highest level, a system for turning the idea of human equality into practical political reality. When leaders can get away with whatever they want, there is no real political equality: We are electing kings, not fellow citizens. If powerful actors try to act above the law, independent institutions need to check their misbehavior. “ I’m guessing you didn’t read the article before you posted the link. 1 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 (edited) 23 minutes ago, impulse said: So, it happened before the 2016 election, but they waited until the 2024 election to drag him into court. Like the 199? sexual assault trials... Decades later, and just in time for an election year. Election interference much? You are aware Trump could not be put in trial while President and that since being kicked out of office Trump has been trying every trick in the book to delay the start of this trial?! Oh and the felony charges Trump is facing are ‘election interference’. Edited April 14 by Chomper Higgot 2 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 34 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Thanks for your link, I particularly liked this bit: “Such a [Trump’s] trial is unprecedented in American history, but it is exactly what’s supposed to happen in a democracy when a political leader (allegedly) commits crimes against democracy. (Trump denies he committed any crimes.) Democracy is, at the very highest level, a system for turning the idea of human equality into practical political reality. When leaders can get away with whatever they want, there is no real political equality: We are electing kings, not fellow citizens. If powerful actors try to act above the law, independent institutions need to check their misbehavior. “ I’m guessing you didn’t read the article before you posted the link. I read it and as I previously responded... I am in favor of prosecuting ALL criminals regardless of political affiliation... the problem is that you and the haters are not. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, impulse said: So, it happened before the 2016 election, but they waited until the 2024 election to drag him into court. Like the 199? sexual assault trials... Decades later, and just in time for an election year. Election interference much? Nonsense!! for the Consumption of feeble minded trump supporters. obviously trump could not be indicted while he was president he left office 2021 New York AG Vance did not seek reelection and the new NY AG took office in January 1, 2022 The case was investigated by the new NY AG , and in March 2023, a New York grand jury indicted Trump on charges of falsifying business records for his payments of about $130,000 to Daniels, A trial date was set for now. trump actively tried to delay the trial three times Nothing unusual there . Edited April 14 by sirineou 2 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: I read it and as I previously responded... I am in favor of prosecuting ALL criminals regardless of political affiliation... the problem is that you and the haters are not. What’s wrong with hating the idea of prosecuting people who have not been indicted? Edited April 14 by Chomper Higgot 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: What’s wrong with hating the idea of prosecuting people who have not been indicted? Now you are entering the realm of fairness of the indictment process... their is approximately half of the USA voters who believe the system is currently rigged by the democratic party machine... who are you to say that they are wrong... will the day of reckoning ever appear... we will have to wait and see... so far all that you have are indictments... no convictions. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Now you are entering the realm of fairness of the indictment process... their is approximately half of the USA voters who believe the system is currently rigged by the democratic party machine... who are you to say that they are wrong... will the day of reckoning ever appear... we will have to wait and see... so far all that you have are indictments... no convictions. Indictments are handed down by Grand Juries, not the Democrat Party. As to your “approximately half of the USA voters” are these people getting their news and views from FOX and Sinclair I wonder? Are they even ‘approximately half of the USA voters’? 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 Just now, Skipalongcassidy said: their is approximately half of the USA voters who believe the system is currently rigged by the democratic party machine... and an equal number who think the earth is flat or other nonsense. Trump was indited by a grand jury, not by the democrats. I have asked you several times if you know what a Grand Jury is, and you decline to answer. I am convinced you do not know, as indicated by your posts. 4 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: all that you have are indictments... no convictions. No that's not true, otherwise there would not be all these bond trump has to pay. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: Indictments are handed down by Grand Juries, not the Democrat Party. As to your “approximately half of the USA voters” are these people getting their news and views from FOX and Sinclair I wonder? Are they even ‘approximately half of the USA voters’? Indictments are handed down by grand juries after they are introduced by prosecuting attorneys... who are... in regards to every indictment handed down on trump... democrats. Ever wonder about that??? 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, Skipalongcassidy said: Indictments are handed down by grand juries after they are introduced by prosecuting attorneys... who are... in regards to every indictment handed down on trump... democrats. Ever wonder about that??? No, never wondered about it beyond the current thought, is it even true! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 21 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: I am in favor of prosecuting ALL criminals regardless of political affiliation. Can we take that as you support the indictment and trial of Defendant Trump? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Are they even ‘approximately half of the USA voters’? Four years ago, leading up to the 2020 election, the Democratic Party had the “clear edge” over Republicans with 51% of voters identifying as Democrats vs. 46% identifying as Republican. Now, leading up to the 2024 election, that gap has closed. The survey found that registered voters are now evenly split along party lines: 49% identify as Democrats or lean toward the Democratic Party and 48% identify as Republicans or lean Republican. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Can we take that as you support the indictment and trial of Defendant Trump? yes... and more importantly I support standing behind the outcome... will you? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: No, never wondered about it beyond the current thought, is it even true! It is true... and if you were really fair minded you would be aware of the fact... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Four years ago, leading up to the 2020 election, the Democratic Party had the “clear edge” over Republicans with 51% of voters identifying as Democrats vs. 46% identifying as Republican. Now, leading up to the 2024 election, that gap has closed. The survey found that registered voters are now evenly split along party lines: 49% identify as Democrats or lean toward the Democratic Party and 48% identify as Republicans or lean Republican. That’s not any kind of evidence to back up the claim you made: “their is approximately half of the USA voters who believe the system is currently rigged by the democratic party machine..” 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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