Easy to spot, yet so difficult to define.

Tell me what the concept means to you.

It's better to be interesting than smart. Anyone can fall off a log and be smart.

I think of it as the cognitive machinery which converts an input of questions/problems/issues into an output of answers/solutions/actions.

 

The quality of the machinery is measured by the success of the outputs.

 

One of the characteristics of the process is its abstraction ie the capacity to think of practical problems in abstract ways. This allows you to manipulate the problem, approaching it from different angles and trying out different possible solutions - all done inside your head.

 

How that turns into proclamations like 'The average IQ of Americans is 102.3' is beyond my machinery's capacity to understand.

Edited April 26, 20242 yr by mfd101

There is intelligence related to solving problems and mathematical puzzles … and there is emotional intelligence relating to how you interact with people to solve real life issues. Some who are strong in the former, may be lacking in the latter. And that’s why it is hard to assess someone’s intelligence. Dyslexic people can be very intelligent yet underperform in a school setting.

15 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

It's better to be interesting than smart.

 

Ain't the two kinda linked ?...

There's a whole lot of interesting people who are dumb as rocks -and a whole of smart people who will put you straight to sleep. 

 

If I'm picking......

A good mix of the different intelligences and a good dose of Eq! 

 

I would say being logical, creative and have physical intelligence can be beneficial for a long interesting life.

26 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

How that turns into proclamations like 'The average IQ of Americans is 102.3' is beyond my machinery's capacity to understand.

According to recent data (around 2022), the average IQ in the United States falls around 98. It's important to remember that IQ tests are designed to have an average score of 100, so a slight deviation is expected.

 

Also the test are diffrent from your language and age, for example, my son 12 years old score 105 IQ designad for 17-19 years old Americans and he is Thai,

 

I have taken IQ tests in Finland, Sweden and the US when I was 20 years old, actually same result.

Took one now same time as my son at 56 years old, fear that my  IQ dropped, actually the opposite

 

Edited April 26, 20242 yr by PoorSucker

5 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

There's a whole lot of interesting people who are dumb as rocks -and a whole of smart people who will put you straight to sleep. 

 

If I'm picking......

 

Yeah that's kinda true I guess

43 minutes ago, TheFatOne said:

Easy to spot, yet so difficult to define.

Tell me what the concept means to you.

The polar opposite of GammaGooberman. 

Intelligence is quite easy to define, it is the ability to comprehend a situation and use the knowledge or skills at your disposal to determine the best course of action from your comprehension of the problem. Basically cognitive reasoning.

It is the complexity of this intellectual pursuit that often results in people thinking they are intelligent, without having the knowledge and skills at their disposal to look at complex issues, and simplify them or outright reject the knowledge we have collected and ignore that in favour of an ideology, that issue is one of the main problems facing the world today.

It is the difference between using objective scientific facts and subjective beliefs. 

The best analogy I have heard is "science flies you to the moon" this is an objective fact and "religion flies you into buildings" based on subjective beliefs.

Which circles very nicely back to the comprehension aspect of defining intelligence as it is the cognitive reasoning function of intelligence that determines if someone is actually intelligent or not. This is also where bias plays a part as ideologically trapped people forego the cognitive function for the sake of their ideology.

I met two really intelligent single women and I was interested in marrying one of them, but I was having difficulty to decide. One has a PhD in physics and the other is a brain surgeon. Guess which one I chose? Scroll down for the answer...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The one with the big tiits, of course!

On the subject of intelligence, my old mathematics teacher used to tell the story of Sir Isaac Newton, undoubtedly one of the most intelligent men of all time, and the little known fact that he invented the cat flap.

 

When Sir Isaac installed a new, and smaller, cat flap in the same door people were puzzled.

 

The great scientist explained that his cat was having kittens.

I think Alina Habba summed it up nicely (unwittingly).

 

Q: Would you rather be pretty or smart?

A: Oh that's easy, pretty. I can fake being smart.

 

That answer perfectly surmised that it's not possible to act smart. I'd still hit it though 😉

OK, I have a definition. Anyone that you see on a motorbike in Thailand is not intelligent, rather stupid in many ways. Therefore, if you do not ride a motorbike in Thailand, you are intelligent. Hows that for a definition.

Intelligence ?

 

It can be defined in the guy who can chat up 3 different fine young ladies at the supermarket by the groceries section at Tesco Lotus and convince each one to end up in a wild pool party 4-some the same evening..... and the most important...to have all the excuses ready the next day to have them leave after of course  they make him breakfast 🤣...such a fella would definately be our hero. 😅

Well, intelligence, to me, would start with being able to type sentences together, with spaces where they belong.  And it does not belong between your last word, and the question mark.  IF you had not put that unnecessary space there, it would have read correctly.  OK, a little bit of my Obsessive Compulsive Disorder showing there....

 

Being intelligent to me, means being ale to understand, judge, define and act on any possible need.

I think their is a difference between intelligent and smart.  Smart is better and more appealing.  Thai bargirls are smart.

Its ability to think for yourself.

 

take Biden supporters for example. Zero intelligence. Anyone who can support that is obviously not capable of thinking on their own terms. All they do is ingest what others spoon feed them. That’s lack of intelligence 

7 hours ago, Dioj said:

I met two really intelligent single women and I was interested in marrying one of them, but I was having difficulty to decide. One has a PhD in physics and the other is a brain surgeon. Guess which one I chose? Scroll down for the answer...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The one with the big tiits, of course!

There's an inverse relationship between a man's IQ and the breast size he prefers.

 

I, of course, prefer small breasts. And detest any fake ones.

14 hours ago, mfd101 said:

I think of it as the cognitive machinery which converts an input of questions/problems/issues into an output of answers/solutions/actions.

 

The quality of the machinery is measured by the success of the outputs.

 

One of the characteristics of the process is its abstraction ie the capacity to think of practical problems in abstract ways. This allows you to manipulate the problem, approaching it from different angles and trying out different possible solutions - all done inside your head.

 

How that turns into proclamations like 'The average IQ of Americans is 102.3' is beyond my machinery's capacity to understand.

I agree with the last line. If you are measureing the IQ of americans then the average has to be 100. That is the baseline for average.

...the ability to adapt.

The ability to acquire knowledge and skills

This one is guaranteed to draw the geniuses out the woodwork, all of which likely have an irrelevant IQ of 150+ and yet no-one can come up with the simple answer...

 

... to not start stoopid topics 😛

Anyway, Gamma, with his infinite AI-generated superiority, will be along any minute to put you all right. 5 4 3 2...

12 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Being intelligent to me, means being ale to understand, judge, define and act on any possible need.

Ale does not help intelligence.... 

Bob can you help answer?     

Light travels faster then sound. Which is why some people appear bright, until the talk to you!

Observation and puzzle solving.