6 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

The solution is easy - but it would be a breach of human rights. Then again, it worked for Japan so maybe it is worth doing it again. Just speculating philosophically - not saying it should be done. 

So to prevent human suffering and civilian deaths in Gaza just bomb them all to smithereens.

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Really? 

What makes me is that the USA paid over $1 billion to build the best air defence systems in the world. This was shown recently when the Israelis stopped 99% of over 300 high tech missiles and drones that Iran fired. 

However, they couldn't stop a few guys on motorised parachutes pick up trucks and bicycles. 

They immediately used this as an excuse to indicriminantly bomb their neighbours, something they have been wanting to do for years. 

 

 

 

 

 

Even as a critical of Israel poster I can only say that the stupidity and lack of facts in your post is astounding.

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So to prevent human suffering and civilian deaths in Gaza just bomb them all to smithereens.

 

  What would be a better way to do it ?

22 minutes ago, billd766 said:

So people are not allowed to change their minds as they grow older, learn more and get more experience, according to you.

 

What people said, did and thought 10 years ago, was what they said, did and thought 10 years ago, and has little relevance 10 years later.

Lol  "elderly man with a poor memory”,Syndrome .

He and his handlers are a train wreck. Who knows what influence his Pro Hamas anti jew base has on his decision.

America never sides with Terror until biden .

Bring back mean tweets , biden is floundering with Americans taxpayers money!

God help us!

Just now, riclag said:

Lol  "elderly man with a poor memory”,Syndrome .

He and his handlers are a train wreck. Who knows what influence his Pro Hamas anti jew base has on his decision.

America never sides with Terror until biden .

Bring back mean tweets , biden is floundering with Americans taxpayers money!

God help us!

He is and has been giving lots and lots of weapons.

On certain bombs he is now saying 'wait, is this really necessary now?'. And now you're claiming he is siding with terrorist. Your posts are nonsense.

15 minutes ago, stevenl said:

He is and has been giving lots and lots of weapons.

On certain bombs he is now saying 'wait, is this really necessary now?'. And now you're claiming he is siding with terrorist. Your posts are nonsense.

Hamas is a terrorist organization , your post is nonsense.biden made conditions and tricked congress!

Edited May 12, 20242 yr by riclag

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

Hamas is a terrorist organization , your post is nonsense.

So where is he siding with Hamas? He is and has been supplying Israel with weapons.

Pandering to a Terrorist organization for votes thats the rub!

 

 

‘We cannot undermine our ally Israel’: 26 Democrats pan Biden’s hold up of weapons!

 

“We are deeply concerned about the message the Administration is sending to Hamas and other Iranian-backed terrorist proxies by withholding weapons shipments to Israel, during a critical moment in the negotiations,” said the letter sent Friday to Jake Sullivan, Biden’s national security adviser, referring to US-led efforts to broker a truce to allow for the release of hostages still held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Israel has said that in exchange, it would release Palestinian security prisoners.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/we-cannot-undermine-our-ally-israel-26-democrats-pan-bidens-hold-up-of-weapons/

 

Edited May 12, 20242 yr by riclag

3 hours ago, riclag said:

Pandering to a Terrorist organization for votes thats the rub!

 

 

‘We cannot undermine our ally Israel’: 26 Democrats pan Biden’s hold up of weapons!

 

“We are deeply concerned about the message the Administration is sending to Hamas and other Iranian-backed terrorist proxies by withholding weapons shipments to Israel, during a critical moment in the negotiations,” said the letter sent Friday to Jake Sullivan, Biden’s national security adviser, referring to US-led efforts to broker a truce to allow for the release of hostages still held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Israel has said that in exchange, it would release Palestinian security prisoners.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/we-cannot-undermine-our-ally-israel-26-democrats-pan-bidens-hold-up-of-weapons/

 

Israel is such a great ally of the USA, that it takes but never gives.

 

Under the current Israeli murderous government, PM and war cabinet, it does not take or heed the advice of its strongest ally, and it believes that it can eliminate Hamas (a one time ally) all on its own.

 

My suggestion would be to stop ALL weapons deliveries and financial aid, and let Israel see how far it gets without the help and assistance of the USA. Obviously according to Netanyahu, Israel does not need help from the USA.

 

From the BC news website this morning.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68980826

 

Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed Israel can "stand alone", after the US warned arms shipments could be stopped if he orders a full-scale invasion of Rafah in Gaza.

Thousands of people have already fled the southern city after the Israeli military began what it called a "limited" operation on Monday.

US President Joe Biden has repeatedly warned against the operation, saying that it would cross a "red line".

But Mr Netanyahu dismissed the US warning, saying Israel would fight on.

"If we need to ... we will stand alone. I have said that if necessary we will fight with our fingernails," the prime minister said.

 

Also this 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4n14merj97o

 

President Joe Biden upended part of one of the world’s most significant strategic relationships this week.

It happened in a TV interview, when Mr Biden was asked what would happen if Israel went ahead with a planned invasion of Rafah. “I’m not supplying the weapons,” he replied.

Arms shipments are the bedrock of the US-Israel alliance. For the first time in four decades, a crack appeared.

Mr Biden has been under sustained pressure at home and abroad to help prevent further major civilian casualties and a worsening humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

He finally crossed the threshold of withholding arms shipments to Israel, American’s closest strategic ally in the region - a move not seen since President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s.

Edited May 12, 20242 yr by billd766
corrected some bad spelling

Maher made a funny joke about Biden's failed effort to please everyone.

Biden's in favor of the two state solution -- Minnesota and Michigan.

Political savvy Americans will get that.

37 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Israel is such a great ally of the USA, that it takes but never gives.

 

Under the current Israeli murderous government, PM and war cabinet, it does not take or heed the advice of its strongest ally, and it believes that it can eliminate Hamas (a one time ally) all on its own.

 

My suggestion would be to stop ALL weapons deliveries and financial aid, and let Israel see how far it gets without the help and assistance of the USA. Obviously according to Netanyahu, Israel does not need help from the USA.

 

From the BC news website this morning.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68980826

 

Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed Israel can "stand alone", after the US warned arms shipments could be stopped if he orders a full-scale invasion of Rafah in Gaza.

Thousands of people have already fled the southern city after the Israeli military began what it called a "limited" operation on Monday.

US President Joe Biden has repeatedly warned against the operation, saying that it would cross a "red line".

But Mr Netanyahu dismissed the US warning, saying Israel would fight on.

"If we need to ... we will stand alone. I have said that if necessary we will fight with our fingernails," the prime minister said.

 

Also this 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4n14merj97o

 

President Joe Biden upended part of one of the world’s most significant strategic relationships this week.

It happened in a TV interview, when Mr Biden was asked what would happen if Israel went ahead with a planned invasion of Rafah. “I’m not supplying the weapons,” he replied.

Arms shipments are the bedrock of the US-Israel alliance. For the first time in four decades, a crack appeared.

Mr Biden has been under sustained pressure at home and abroad to help prevent further major civilian casualties and a worsening humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

He finally crossed the threshold of withholding arms shipments to Israel, American’s closest strategic ally in the region - a move not seen since President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s.

Another one who gets there news from a pro hamas news agency!

Hamas is a terrorist organization!

Bbc wouldn’t even condemn Hamas as terrorist , they described them as “militant hamas”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/israel-hamas-war-grant-shapps-bbc-clash-video-b2429103.html

 

BBC to investigate after reporter ‘liked’ pro-Hamas posts

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1873113/bbc-journalists-israel-gaza-hamas

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Another one who gets there news from a pro hamas news agency!

Hamas is a terrorist organization!

Bbc wouldn’t even condemn Hamas as terrorist , they described them as “militant hamas”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/israel-hamas-war-grant-shapps-bbc-clash-video-b2429103.html

 

BBC to investigate after reporter ‘liked’ pro-Hamas posts

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1873113/bbc-journalists-israel-gaza-hamas

Yet you seem to get your link from that neutral bastion of honesty and truth.

 

The Times of Israel.

 

And that is nothing like an unbiased source or the truth at all.

 

At least I get some of my news from MSM which you and others like you believe is totally biased and you believe none of it.

 

In feel pity for you, as you can only see a one sided blinkered view of a country that slaughters innocent men, women and children on a daily basis.

45 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Yet you seem to get your link from that neutral bastion of honesty and truth.

 

The Times of Israel.

 

And that is nothing like an unbiased source or the truth at all.

 

At least I get some of my news from MSM which you and others like you believe is totally biased and you believe none of it.

 

In feel pity for you, as you can only see a one sided blinkered view of a country that slaughters innocent men, women and children on a daily basis.

Hamas slaughtered innocent men, women and children, Israel is ensuring it never happens again to their citizens! 

7 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

The solution is easy - but it would be a breach of human rights. Then again, it worked for Japan so maybe it is worth doing it again. Just speculating philosophically - not saying it should be done. 

Lindsey Graham shouts down Kristen Welker as he calls to bomb Gaza like Hiroshima

Biden must be doing something right, he is accused of supporting and selling out Israel at the same time.

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Yet you seem to get your link from that neutral bastion of honesty and truth.

 

The Times of Israel.

 

And that is nothing like an unbiased source or the truth at all.

 

At least I get some of my news from MSM which you and others like you believe is totally biased and you believe none of it.

 

In feel pity for you, as you can only see a one sided blinkered view of a country that slaughters innocent men, women and children on a daily basis.

 

   Why don't you trust the Times of Israel with its news ?

Is it solely based on the fact that it comes from Israel and so cannot be trusted because they are Jews , or is there some other reason why you don't trust the ToI ?

 

7 hours ago, billd766 said:

Yet you seem to get your link from that neutral bastion of honesty and truth.

 

The Times of Israel.

 

And that is nothing like an unbiased source or the truth at all.

 

At least I get some of my news from MSM which you and others like you believe is totally biased and you believe none of it.

 

In feel pity for you, as you can only see a one sided blinkered view of a country that slaughters innocent men, women and children on a daily basis.

Yet the Times of Israel has a higher factual rating than most. How do you work that one out? Jews telling the truth. Is that still unbelievable to you?

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/times-of-israel/

On 5/10/2024 at 10:19 AM, Brian Hull said:

Hamas murdered hundreds of Israelis and in response Israel has murdered more than 30,000 Palestinians. What they are doing is not "the right to defend itself". It is wanton slaughter and genocide. Israel learned a lot from the Nazis.

 

whataboutism much