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[Confuscious]

9 hours ago, CharlesHolzhauer said:

I applaud you for recognizing the need for assistance with specialized services like immigration issues—well done. You might want to consider taking a similar approach when dealing with the Thai Revenue Department.

 

The choice to get assistance from a VISA agent was based on "getting VISA done the easy way" rather than "need for assistance".
 

[Mike Lister]

Let's not play word games, visa agents and tax agents share the same family tree.

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, Mike Lister said:

Let's not play word games, visa agents and tax agents share the same family tree.

There are I believe two branches to that tree!

 

Branch one is totally legit and just holds your hand etc, costs some money, but means only 5/10 minutes in the Government office which means you can spend much more time productively elsewhere!

 

The other branch of that tree I believe deals in illegal practices and facilitates people to by pass legal criteria!

Edited May 18 by scottiejohn

[turgid]

On 5/15/2024 at 6:13 PM, Mike Lister said:

If anyone has difficulties getting a tax ID, call the Thai Revenue Help Line and tell them about it, they will be seriously interested to hear from you. The number is: 02 272 8000

 

"Seriously interested" might be overstating it.   Has anyone navigated this helpline successfully to talk to a person ?  Can you advise the option route ?

The route we took was option 111, option 7, option 3.

3 Is Tax ID for foreigners and apparently gives a list of documents required for getting TIN. It then hangs up. 

There is no "press Zero to speak to a person" at any of those options as far as  I can determine through my interpreter. 

We could not find any way to break out of any menu to speak to a person. 

 

If anyone from the tax authority is reading this it would be very helpful to have a "what to do if your local office wont issue a TIN" FAQ.

Also respectfully since the only people requiring a TIN are likely to be foreign and presumably you really want them to have a TIN this is one of those cases where offering other language support would be be as helpful to you as us.

[oldcpu]

10 hours ago, turgid said:

 

"Seriously interested" might be overstating it.   Has anyone navigated this helpline successfully to talk to a person ?  Can you advise the option route ?

 

 

I am curious about this also. 

 

As I have posted before - my wife applied on line to get a Thai tax ID for myself.  This resulted with a Phuket RD official phoning my wife. 

 

After hearing (1) I resided in Thailand for >180 days , AND, (2) my income was from OUTSIDE of Thailand (pensions), and (3) I was not at present bringing money into the country, the official stated I did NOT need a tax-ID.

 

When asked about my "pink-ID" and could that not be used as a tax-ID, the official noted it had to be activated first, and the official saw no need to activate it given my situation.

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[Confuscious]

1 hour ago, oldcpu said:

 

I am curious about this also. 

 

As I have posted before - my wife applied on line to get a Thai tax ID for myself.  This resulted with a Phuket RD official phoning my wife. 

 

After hearing (1) I resided in Thailand for >180 days , AND, (2) my income was from OUTSIDE of Thailand (pensions), and (3) I was not at present bringing money into the country, the official stated I did NOT need a tax-ID.

 

When asked about my "pink-ID" and could that not be used as a tax-ID, the official noted it had to be activated first, and the official saw no need to activate it given my situation.

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I had exactly the same answer from the TAX department a year ago when I was asking for a TAX ID-number.
The answer from the "knowledgable" members in this group was that I had to say that .....

[chiang mai]

7 hours ago, Confuscious said:

 

I had exactly the same answer from the TAX department a year ago when I was asking for a TAX ID-number.
The answer from the "knowledgable" members in this group was that I had to say that .....

It confuses me that some members are unable to obtain a tax id when the law requires that one is issued to you. I get that staff at some offices may not want to give you one but is it really beyond members abilities to manufacture a story that convinces staff they must issue you with one! Really?

 

I mean, you could say you have a lot of money on deposit and you want to reclaim tax on interest, which requires a tax id. You could also say you have rental income and have to file a return, which also requires a tin. Tbh I'm not sure how some members manage to put their pants on in the morning and avoid a drama in the process.

Edited 3 hours ago by chiang mai

[EVENKEEL]

12 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

It confuses me that some members are unable to obtain a tax id when the law requires that one is issued to you. I get that staff at some offices may not want to give you one but is it really beyond members abilities to manufacture a story that convinces staff they must issue you with one! Really?

 

I mean, you could say you have a lot of money on deposit and you want to reclaim tax on interest, which requires a tax id. You could also say you have rental income and have to file a return, which also requires a tin. Tbh I'm not sure how some members manage to put their pants on in the morning and avoid a drama in the process.

Just how desperate must a person be to lie in order to get a TIN. 

 

I was recently opening a second Bangkok Bank account, they brought out paperwork for TIN. It was mandatory to open account. Guess I'll make do with one account.

[chiang mai]

Staff at many offices are lazy, if you give them an excuse that allows them to avoid work, they will take it. A perfect excuse is asking them if you need a tin.

...of course you don't, silly billy you, they will say. They are taking the piste and you're allowing them to do it. Tell you wHat, ask if they don't mind being recorded telling you that and then see how quickly your tin is issued!

[chiang mai]

54 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Just how desperate must a person be to lie in order to get a TIN. 

 

I was recently opening a second Bangkok Bank account, they brought out paperwork for TIN. It was mandatory to open account. Guess I'll make do with one account.

Your excuse of, "they wouldn't give me one", or, "they said I didn't need one", won't go far in a tax audit. But hey, give it shot, you especially should, especially knowing how difficult and complex it is to obtain one!

[EVENKEEL]

24 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

Your excuse of, "they wouldn't give me one", or, "they said I didn't need one", won't go far in a tax audit. But hey, give it shot, you especially should, especially knowing how difficult and complex it is to obtain one!

You advocate lying and strong arm tactics to obtain a TIN. 

 

Just because you decided to file tax returns on miniscule  interest, that's on you. 

[chiang mai]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You advocate lying and strong arm tactics to obtain a TIN. 

 

Just because you decided to file tax returns on miniscule  interest, that's on you. 

What you know about my Thai tax returns of the past 15 years is zero.