rickudon Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, transam said: Well at least you found one thing to do a UK put-down on, which I am sure you will keep in your notebook as a reserve, as the UK moves ahead........😂 Are your rubber boat people working, or are you taking care of them with your tax money........🤭 Last year, only 30,000 'rubber boat people', 1,000,000 'legal' migrants. No wonder unemployment of British people is up. To much competition for the better jobs. still vacancies of minimum wage jobs, but all those University graduates were told they would find good well paid jobs..... ha ha ha. Brexit keeps on giving .... only to the rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Wednesday at 10:42 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:42 AM The term ‘Robust’ seems to have been a tad optimistic: https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/12/uk-economy-flatlines-sunak-gdp-general-election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted Wednesday at 10:44 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:44 AM On 5/18/2024 at 10:06 AM, rickudon said: Last year, only 30,000 'rubber boat people', 1,000,000 'legal' migrants. No wonder unemployment of British people is up. To much competition for the better jobs. still vacancies of minimum wage jobs, but all those University graduates were told they would find good well paid jobs..... ha ha ha. Brexit keeps on giving .... only to the rich. You're down on your luck then...........😢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted Wednesday at 10:45 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:45 AM 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: The term ‘Robust’ seems to have been a tad optimistic: https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/12/uk-economy-flatlines-sunak-gdp-general-election "The Guardian", whodathought...............🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Wednesday at 10:51 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:51 AM 5 minutes ago, transam said: "The Guardian", whodathought...............🤭 From the Guardian article: “the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said monthly growth slowed after a 0.4% increase in March.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted Wednesday at 05:14 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:14 PM On 5/17/2024 at 2:30 AM, Chomper Higgot said: Brexit has lead to labour shortages. Not all workers can do all jobs. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cdp-2023-0001/ The problem is many of those unemployed don't want to be workers. Benefits are good and sofas are comfortable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted Wednesday at 05:15 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:15 PM On 5/17/2024 at 2:33 AM, JonnyF said: Did it also lead to Germany's labour shortages? https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/germanys-shortage-workers-is-biggest-risk-growth-minister-says-2024-02-21/ I would argue a bigger factor in labour shortage is importing a load of unskilled immigrants while skilled professionals like me grow sick of the place and go and work for a multinational in Thailand where some semblance of sanity remains. Unskilled immigrants won't get visas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Wednesday at 10:06 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:06 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, youreavinalaff said: The problem is many of those unemployed don't want to be workers. Benefits are good and sofas are comfortable. The problem is many of those unemployed are long term sick unable to get the medical care they need in a crumbling NHS. But you’re alright Jack. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/08/15/long-term-sickness-26m-people-out-of-work-nhs-waiting-list/ Edited Wednesday at 10:08 PM by Chomper Higgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted Thursday at 09:29 AM Share Posted Thursday at 09:29 AM 11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The problem is many of those unemployed are long term sick unable to get the medical care they need in a crumbling NHS. But you’re alright Jack. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/08/15/long-term-sickness-26m-people-out-of-work-nhs-waiting-list/ Yes. That "long term sick" excuse. It used to be called "bone idle". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted Thursday at 09:33 AM Share Posted Thursday at 09:33 AM 11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The problem is many of those unemployed are long term sick unable to get the medical care they need in a crumbling NHS. But you’re alright Jack. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/08/15/long-term-sickness-26m-people-out-of-work-nhs-waiting-list/ "Crumbling NHS"..........😆 Where you come from you have to pay big money, insurance, eh....😥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Thursday at 10:15 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:15 AM 41 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Yes. That "long term sick" excuse. It used to be called "bone idle". Difficulty understanding the Telegraph article I linked? “Long-term sickness forces record 2.6m people out of work as NHS waiting lists spiral” Or is it just a matter of ‘I’m alright Jack’? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Thursday at 10:16 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:16 AM 42 minutes ago, transam said: "Crumbling NHS"..........😆 Where you come from you have to pay big money, insurance, eh....😥 What on earth are you banging on about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted Thursday at 10:19 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:19 AM 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: What on earth are you banging on about? "Crumbling NHS", my chum has just gone back to the UK and is receiving important medical intervention on the NHS... Crumbling NHS............🤣 Just a Tory bash comment, that we can ALL see......... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted Thursday at 10:20 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:20 AM 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Difficulty understanding the Telegraph article I linked? “Long-term sickness forces record 2.6m people out of work as NHS waiting lists spiral” Or is it just a matter of ‘I’m alright Jack’? I don't recall speaking about my own circumstances. It's interesting that you know every one on sickness benefit is actually sick and can't work. Especially as I know people who are swinging the lead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted Thursday at 10:24 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:24 AM On 5/18/2024 at 4:06 AM, rickudon said: Last year, only 30,000 'rubber boat people', 1,000,000 'legal' migrants. No wonder unemployment of British people is up. To much competition for the better jobs. still vacancies of minimum wage jobs, but all those University graduates were told they would find good well paid jobs..... ha ha ha. Brexit keeps on giving .... only to the rich. Nearly half of the one million are students. 10% are on family visas. Only about 300000 are work visas. Those applying for a work visa need a job offer before applying. Jobs that have been advertised for anyone to apply. Immigration does not cause unemployment. Migrants are generally doing jobs UK nationals don't want to do. Health and social care being the biggest example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Thursday at 10:28 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:28 AM 5 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: I don't recall speaking about my own circumstances. It's interesting that you know every one on sickness benefit is actually sick and can't work. Especially as I know people who are swinging the lead. It’s even more interesting that you swerve on the credible report of 2.6 million people out of work as a direct result of awaiting medical care that is not being delivered on time. I’m sure you have lots of anecdotes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Thursday at 10:30 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:30 AM 8 minutes ago, transam said: "Crumbling NHS", my chum has just gone back to the UK and is receiving important medical intervention on the NHS... Crumbling NHS............🤣 Just a Tory bash comment, that we can ALL see......... Yet another ‘convenient’ anecdote, albeit enhanced with emojis. inks to credible reports not being your thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Thursday at 10:30 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:30 AM 6 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Nearly half of the one million are students. 10% are on family visas. Only about 300000 are work visas. Those applying for a work visa need a job offer before applying. Jobs that have been advertised for anyone to apply. Immigration does not cause unemployment. Migrants are generally doing jobs UK nationals don't want to do. Health and social care being the biggest example. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted Thursday at 10:33 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:33 AM 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It’s even more interesting that you swerve on the credible report of 2.6 million people out of work as a direct result of awaiting medical care that is not being delivered on time. I’m sure you have lots of anecdotes. Concentrate more on the cost of your rubber boat people friends, turning up at hospitals.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted Thursday at 10:34 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:34 AM 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Yet another ‘convenient’ anecdote, albeit enhanced with emojis. inks to credible reports not being your thing. Then YOU report on my friends treatment and get back to us............ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted Thursday at 10:51 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:51 AM 22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It’s even more interesting that you swerve on the credible report of 2.6 million people out of work as a direct result of awaiting medical care that is not being delivered on time. I’m sure you have lots of anecdotes. Please show me a link to the individual reports of the whole 2.6 million. Just to prove all of them are genuinely sick and waiting treatment. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted Thursday at 10:52 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:52 AM On 5/17/2024 at 3:46 PM, eisfeld said: Completely misleading title and article. The UK had a much more massive decline the quarter before and are now on a rebound. The EU declined less so doesn't need a rebound of that size. Remember Growth is always relative. If you look at longer timeframes then the UK is massively lagging behind the EU. That's not from some EU source but the UK parliament. I hope the UK can step up its game. *looking awkwardly at Germany*. Source https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/ Off topic but I keep reading how Biden is senile! Seems to be doing fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted Thursday at 10:53 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:53 AM 21 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Correct. So you agree some UK citizens don't want to work. Excellent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Thursday at 11:27 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:27 AM 53 minutes ago, transam said: Concentrate more on the cost of your rubber boat people friends, turning up at hospitals.......... Not ‘my rubber boat people’. But nice go at trolling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Thursday at 11:29 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:29 AM 36 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Please show me a link to the individual reports of the whole 2.6 million. Just to prove all of them are genuinely sick and waiting treatment. Just show me credible confirmation of your anecdote. The link I provided is to a credible source, sorry you can’t deal with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted Thursday at 11:33 AM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 11:33 AM (edited) 40 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: So you agree some UK citizens don't want to work. Excellent. On the bases of probability yes but I have no credible evidence of how many, and I doubt you do either. Meanwhile I have provided a link to a credible source to back my statement wrt long term sick being kept out of work by NHS waiting lists. Edited Thursday at 11:33 AM by Chomper Higgot 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted Thursday at 11:37 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:37 AM 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Just show me credible confirmation of your anecdote. The link I provided is to a credible source, sorry you can’t deal with it. Perhaps can't deal with your continuous anti-Brit stuff, the UK has moved forward after folk like said it will never happen............. And don't ask me, "Where did I say that", because we all know, you know, if you post, it will be Anti-Brit...... Even the Brexit remainer crowd have gone quiet, haven't you........😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted Thursday at 11:38 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:38 AM 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: On the bases of probability yes but I have no credible evidence of how many, and I doubt you do either. Meanwhile I have provided a link to a credible source to back my statement wrt long term sick being kept out of work by NHS waiting lists. Then tell your chums to get back in their boats and bugger off........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted Thursday at 11:43 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:43 AM 12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Just show me credible confirmation of your anecdote. The link I provided is to a credible source, sorry you can’t deal with it. I can deal with it. I've never said I can't. You can't prove my point incorrect. You just assume. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Thursday at 12:44 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:44 PM 59 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: I can deal with it. I've never said I can't. You can't prove my point incorrect. You just assume. I don’t have to prove your point incorrect. Its for you to support claims you make with credible evidence. ’Convenient anecdotes’ don’t cut the mustard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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