1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

And the entire world mourns with great sympathy. Just think of all the good deeds this guy has done for the planet and the region. He was a saint.

 

Where do I send the flowers to? 

They called him the butcher, save you the money for the flowers.

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Where was Netanyahu at the time? 

 

   It wouldn't have been Netanyahu , it would have been Mossad .

But It seems like it was the weather , so blame the crash on God

Although he was far from a saint, he did a lot of good for the Palestinian cause, he consistently used his platform to voice support for the Palestinian people and their struggle for self-determination. He frequently condemned Israeli actions in the Palestinian territories and advocated for the rights of Palestinians. He also opposed peace agreements with Israel that were perceived as detrimental to  Palestine and didn't address the fundamental issues of Palestinian statehood and sovereignty. He gave moral support to Palestinians, who would otherwise all be dead by now. 

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Although he was far from a saint, he did a lot of good for the Palestinian cause, he consistently used his platform to voice support for the Palestinian people and their struggle for self-determination. He frequently condemned Israeli actions in the Palestinian territories and advocated for the rights of Palestinians. He also opposed peace agreements with Israel that were perceived as detrimental to  Palestine and didn't address the fundamental issues of Palestinian statehood and sovereignty. He gave moral support to Palestinians, who would otherwise all be dead by now. 

What a load...........

17 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

And they say that sanctions don't work, they've hit the jackpot with this one if true.

Im sure it helps the world stability, meaning we continue as we always have done, war, conflicts, make friends with enimies of our enimies, and continue supressing and fighting for the same resources and territories.

 

Nothing new really.

 

Why Iran turned out to be hating Usa and the west, is still a big mystery.

 

NB irony 

15 minutes ago, transam said:

How can they blame sanctions, they don't know the cause yet.  🙄

 

Plus, they could get a brand new helicopter from their friends in Russia if they are concerned about wig-wigs safety........

Here is one english source. How they already know the reasons, is beyond my knownledge. 

 

Mohammad Javad Zarif, former Foreign Minister of Iran, blamed American sanctions on aviation parts for the crash of a chopper carrying President Ebrahim Raisi.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iranintl.com/en/202405203793

Im sure it is god gift for conspirators 

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Although he was far from a saint, he did a lot of good for the Palestinian cause, he consistently used his platform to voice support for the Palestinian people and their struggle for self-determination. He frequently condemned Israeli actions in the Palestinian territories and advocated for the rights of Palestinians. He also opposed peace agreements with Israel that were perceived as detrimental to  Palestine and didn't address the fundamental issues of Palestinian statehood and sovereignty. He gave moral support to Palestinians, who would otherwise all be dead by now. 

He financed and trained terrorist's. The original axis of evil. You are such an apologist.

31 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Mossad doesnt do suicide missions. He wasnt on that chopper.

He could have been a Iranian mossad agent

24 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Some rather negative comments about a country that is generally peace loving. I find it funny when an American, for example, thinks Iran is evil. Iran has not started any war in the last say 100 years, compared to the US who have started many and one for a  made up reason, yet the Muslims are the bad guys.... 

 

That comment shows a lot of naivety. The people might be peace loving, but the regime are evil. 

 

The latest 'government initiative' is to shoot people in the eye who protest. 

 

Can you not not distinguish between a country's hard line dictatorial regime and it's people? 

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-64503873

 

Dr Mohammad Jafar Ghaempanah is one of nearly 400 ophthalmologists, or eye doctors, who have signed an official letter, urging the authorities to give more support to the injured.

He says the blinded protesters will be marked forever in society.

"Until the end of their life, this young person will be living proof of Iran's crackdown,"

 

Tens of thousands have taken parts in protests against Iran's clerical establishment since the death in September of a young Kurdish woman, Mahsa Amini, in police custody for allegedly failing to wear her headscarf "properly".

 

45 year old helicopter flying through mountains in thick fog.

 

What could possibly go wrong?

My son in law is Iranian I'll speak to him later, he is in the UK, 

2 hours ago, koolkarl said:

What goes around, comes around.

Could say exactly the same if was any political leader.  

If you actually believe in Karma, it makes no sense your comment.

Americans are smarter than some idiots think.

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

He financed and trained terrorist's. The original axis of evil. You are such an apologist.

Who created the term Axis of evil? 

 

Do you ever sit down and ask yourself why the world is like it is today? Why some is seen as evil powers, while the other part do exactly the same the other way around? 

 

The same propaganda and reasons, is used to opposite way in the the evil countries, who use exactly the same methods as the counterpart. 

 

Is a mystery, isn't it? 

 

 

Edited May 20, 20242 yr by Hummin

4 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

That comment shows a lot of naivety. The people might be peace loving, but the regime are evil. 

 

The latest 'government initiative' is to shoot people in the eye who protest. 

 

Can you not not distinguish between a country's hard line dictatorial regime and it's people? 

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-64503873

 

Dr Mohammad Jafar Ghaempanah is one of nearly 400 ophthalmologists, or eye doctors, who have signed an official letter, urging the authorities to give more support to the injured.

He says the blinded protesters will be marked forever in society.

"Until the end of their life, this young person will be living proof of Iran's crackdown,"

 

Tens of thousands have taken parts in protests against Iran's clerical establishment since the death in September of a young Kurdish woman, Mahsa Amini, in police custody for allegedly failing to wear her headscarf "properly".

 

I agree with you on things like shooting people in the eye, but who are we to tell other cultures how to behave?

Would I like it if a bunch of Iranians came to Thailand and told us to stop selling ganja and alcohol? 

 

My post was about being peace-loving and not starting wars. 

 

 

42 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Although he was far from a saint, he did a lot of good for the Palestinian cause, he consistently used his platform to voice support for the Palestinian people and their struggle for self-determination. He frequently condemned Israeli actions in the Palestinian territories and advocated for the rights of Palestinians. He also opposed peace agreements with Israel that were perceived as detrimental to  Palestine and didn't address the fundamental issues of Palestinian statehood and sovereignty. He gave moral support to Palestinians, who would otherwise all be dead by now. 

 

   There is more to life than just Palestinians , there is a whole World out there , not just Palestinians .

   He gave funds to Hamas , which caused 30 000 people to die and for Gaza to be destroyed 

Edited May 20, 20242 yr by Nick Carter icp

4 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

My son in law is Iranian I'll speak to him later, he is in the UK, 

 

   Do you think that he will know the cause of this crash ?

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Here is one english source. How they already know the reasons, is beyond my knownledge. 

 

Mohammad Javad Zarif, former Foreign Minister of Iran, blamed American sanctions on aviation parts for the crash of a chopper carrying President Ebrahim Raisi.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iranintl.com/en/202405203793

Errr...ok. We can't get the parts we need to make these old helicopters safe, so let's send the president up in one.

Bloody America's fault...

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Who created the term Axis of evil? 

 

Do you ever sit down and ask yourself why the world is like it is today? Why some is seen as evil powers, while the other part do exactly the same the other way around? 

 

The same propaganda and reasons, is used to opposite way in the the evil countries, who use exactly the same methods as the counterpart. 

 

Is a mystery, isn't it? 

 

 

Who created the term Axis of evil? 

 

He did with his support, training and financing for global terrorism, got it now? 

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you think that he will know the cause of this crash ?

He might have a better idea than all these clowns on here, and his parents still live in Tehran, 

Edited May 20, 20242 yr by ChipButty

3 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

He might have a better idea than all these clowns on here, and his parents still live in Tehran, 

 

   So you are going to call him as ask him who is responsible for this ?

He may have asked his Parents and they might know and they might have told him and he might tell you ?

   Do his parents have some inside info ?

He was a human being.  Untimely death is a tragedy.  For those consumed with hatred and dancing with glee?  Perhaps you should evaluate your own lives and develop some compassion and humanity.

Rest in Peace - 🙏 

24 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Errr...ok. We can't get the parts we need to make these old helicopters safe, so let's send the president up in one.

Bloody America's fault...

Everything is propaganda, easy retorics works best against single minded people who become useful idiots. Thats why such powers can stay in power, not only because of fear for the consequenses, but also becouse it fits their narative. True for both sides of evil of axis. 

2 minutes ago, connda said:

He was a human being.  Untimely death is a tragedy.  For those consumed with hatred and dancing with glee?  Perhaps you should evaluate your own lives and develop some compassion and humanity.

Rest in Peace - 🙏 

Well said. 

Rather sad when people from one culture condemn another country's values and morals. 

I've met many Brits who hate Muslims telling the UK that their moral code is wrong, yet tell Iran that theirs are wrong.  It takes all sorts to make a world. 

 

14 minutes ago, connda said:

He was a human being.  Untimely death is a tragedy.  For those consumed with hatred and dancing with glee?  Perhaps you should evaluate your own lives and develop some compassion and humanity.

Rest in Peace - 🙏 

No he was not a human being,he was an animal.

Ebrahim Raisi 1988 killings,look it up.

God is GREAT !

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Well said. 

Rather sad when people from one culture condemn another country's values and morals. 

I've met many Brits who hate Muslims telling the UK that their moral code is wrong, yet tell Iran that theirs are wrong.  It takes all sorts to make a world. 

 

 

   There are many Iranian citizens who detest their hard-line religious Government and would support the regimes downfall .

  Many Iranian  citizens support Israel and Jews and oppose the Palestinian leading Iran into a another war .

   The opposing sides are tolerant people V intolerant people .

Its the Islamic republic who are the enemy, it isn't the Iranian people or Country 

33 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Errr...ok. We can't get the parts we need to make these old helicopters safe, so let's send the president up in one.

Bloody America's fault...

That would explain the Leicester City's boss tragic crash. Oh wait a moment..... Personally having only ever gone up in a helicopter once I would never do it again.

It's difficult to know what happened, but Iranian TV is saying "weather." Why did two other choppers make it?