1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

so 3 jabs did not help to prevent you to catching covid.

 

Colour me surprised !

 

We live in a clown world.

From the above cited document that's addressing about 4 million total COVID vaccine doses given in that jurisdiction during 2021::

 

Page 3:

"Adverse events following immunisation are defined as unwanted or unexpected events following
the administration of a vaccine, which could be mild, such as a sore arm, or serious, such as
anaphylaxis. AEFI also include conditions that may occur following the incorrect handling or
administration of a vaccine. The fact that an adverse event occurred following immunisation is not conclusive evidence that the event was caused by a vaccine. [emphasis added] Factors such as medical history, diagnostic testing, and other medication given near the time of vaccination must be examined to help determine the likely cause of an adverse event."

 

AND

 

Page 10:

"The reporting of adverse events following COVID-19 vaccines differed from adverse events following
routine vaccines in that the majority (58%) were reported by the vaccinee or a family member,
whereas the majority (79%) of routine vaccine AEFI were reported by a healthcare provider (Table
1)."

 

AND

 

Page 19:

 

https://www.health.wa.gov.au/~/media/Corp/Documents/Health-for/Immunisation/Western-Australia-Vaccine-Safety-Surveillance-Annual-Report-2021.pdf

 

 

 

 

Having symptoms after getting a COVID vaccine may indicate robust immune response

June 11, 2024

 

"Headache, fatigue, malaise, and chills after COVID-19 vaccination are signs the immune system is marshalling a strong response against future infection, suggests a study posted today in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

 

University of California at San Francisco (UCSF) investigators analyzed serum neutralizing antibody (nAB) levels against the wild-type SARS-CoV-2 strain and daily symptom surveys in 363 unvaccinated, never-infected adults given two doses of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine in 2021.

...

Higher antibody levels after second dose

One and 6 months after receipt of the second vaccine dose, fatigue, malaise, chills, and headache were each tied to 1.4- to 1.6-fold higher nAB concentrations. nAB levels in participants who experienced at least seven symptoms were nearly double the levels of those who reported no symptoms. 

 

(more)

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/having-symptoms-after-getting-covid-vaccine-may-indicate-robust-immune-response

 

 

The thread topic here is -- New COVID Sub-variant KP.2 on the Rise in Thailand -- not three-year-old vaccine safety reports from Western Australia. Please stay ON-TOPIC with future posting in this Thailand News thread.

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Seems some vaccines have a greater % of adverse events than others. 

https://www.health.wa.gov.au/~/media/Corp/Documents/Health-for/Immunisation/Western-Australia-Vaccine-Safety-Surveillance-Annual-Report-2021.pdf

 

Excess mortality data is now being investigated. 

That's a given. But as for covid, the benefits of the jab far outweighed the risk of side effects.

6 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

so 3 jabs did not help to prevent you to catching covid.

 

Colour me surprised !

What color is surprised?

5 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Having symptoms after getting a COVID vaccine may indicate robust immune response

June 11, 2024

 

"Headache, fatigue, malaise, and chills after COVID-19 vaccination are signs the immune system is marshalling a strong response against future infection, suggests a study posted today in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

 

University of California at San Francisco (UCSF) investigators analyzed serum neutralizing antibody (nAB) levels against the wild-type SARS-CoV-2 strain and daily symptom surveys in 363 unvaccinated, never-infected adults given two doses of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine in 2021.

...

Higher antibody levels after second dose

One and 6 months after receipt of the second vaccine dose, fatigue, malaise, chills, and headache were each tied to 1.4- to 1.6-fold higher nAB concentrations. nAB levels in participants who experienced at least seven symptoms were nearly double the levels of those who reported no symptoms. 

 

(more)

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/having-symptoms-after-getting-covid-vaccine-may-indicate-robust-immune-response

 

 

I was out of it after my second shingles shot. But better that than getting them!

5 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Having symptoms after getting a COVID vaccine may indicate robust immune response

June 11, 2024

 

"Headache, fatigue, malaise, and chills after COVID-19 vaccination are signs the immune system is marshalling a strong response against future infection, suggests a study posted today in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

 

University of California at San Francisco (UCSF) investigators analyzed serum neutralizing antibody (nAB) levels against the wild-type SARS-CoV-2 strain and daily symptom surveys in 363 unvaccinated, never-infected adults given two doses of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine in 2021.

...

Higher antibody levels after second dose

One and 6 months after receipt of the second vaccine dose, fatigue, malaise, chills, and headache were each tied to 1.4- to 1.6-fold higher nAB concentrations. nAB levels in participants who experienced at least seven symptoms were nearly double the levels of those who reported no symptoms. 

 

(more)

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/having-symptoms-after-getting-covid-vaccine-may-indicate-robust-immune-response

 

 

 

May… or may not.

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

May… or may not.

It's been widely reported that this is true.

On 6/19/2024 at 5:48 PM, Roo Island said:

Hard to have intelligent conversations with covid deniers

It's impossible to have rational conversations with people who refuse to accept that they injected 

an unknown substance into themselves.

I didn't get vaxxed and never wore a mask.

Nobody I'm friends with did either. I still haven't heard of anyone in the very large anti vax groups

who's died or been very ill since 2021.

I do know an 85 year old friend of the family who laughed at me when I said I haven't had a shot.

He said 'I've had two and look at me, I'm fine"

Soon after that, he had two heart attacks and a stroke, then he spent over a year in hospital and on a ventilator and now

he's developed some brain problem, the name of which I've forgotten.

 

Probably would have been worse if he hadn't had the covid vax though right?

 

On 6/21/2024 at 9:01 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

about 300 people per week are still dying from COVID in the U.S

It must be really depressing focusing on death on all the time.