Dr. Anthony Fauci, the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), recently shared details of a conversation he had with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an independent presidential candidate known for his controversial views on vaccines. This discussion was highlighted during Fauci's appearance on "The Axe Files with David Axelrod" podcast.

 

Fauci recounted a meeting with Kennedy Jr., where Kennedy claimed he would lead a commission on vaccines under Trump's administration. During the meeting, Kennedy presented a slide claiming vaccines were responsible for numerous diseases, including autism. Fauci immediately challenged Kennedy, stating, "Excuse me, Bobby, but I don't really mean to interrupt you but there isn't a bit of evidence at all of anything that's on this slide."

 

Fauci and his colleagues concluded the meeting by telling Kennedy Jr., "Bobby I'm sorry, but we don't really agree with you." Afterward, Fauci approached Kennedy Jr. and expressed his concern, "Bobby, I believe you care about children and you care that you don't want to hurt them but you got to realize from a scientific standpoint, what you're saying does make no sense." Fauci added his personal observation, "I don't know what's going on in his head but it's not good."

 

Kennedy Jr., a prominent critic of vaccines even before the COVID-19 pandemic, reiterated his stance during a 2023 appearance on "The Joe Rogan Experience" podcast. He spoke about friends whose children had adverse reactions to vaccines, asserting that healthy children lost their abilities after vaccination.

 

Recently, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected two appeals cases related to the COVID-19 vaccine brought by the Children's Health Defense, a nonprofit founded by Kennedy Jr. Despite these legal setbacks, Kennedy Jr. remains an active independent candidate in the 2024 election. He has expressed openness to discussions with Democrats about potentially replacing President Joe Biden as the Democratic nominee, stating in an interview with NewsNation's Chris Cuomo that he would consider such talks to avoid efforts by the Democratic National Committee to remove him from the ballot.

 

Credit: Newsweek 2024-07-04

 

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Bravo dr Fauci unfortunately for Kennedy I think the worms have eaten the part of his brain that deduces science from conspiracy…..to bad

Junior: "Don't bother me with facts, doctor. I've already got my opinions."

5 hours ago, Tug said:

Bravo dr Fauci unfortunately for Kennedy I think the worms have eaten the part of his brain that deduces science from conspiracy…..to bad

Unlike your boy Biden who has had aneurym's and now it is clearly showing with his cognitive decline on full display.  

2 minutes ago, dhupverg said:

Unlike your boy Biden who has had aneurym's and now it is clearly showing with his cognitive decline on full display.  

Biden has  what?

5 hours ago, Tug said:

Bravo dr Fauci unfortunately for Kennedy I think the worms have eaten the part of his brain that deduces science from conspiracy…..to bad

Some people died after taking the vaccine. 

39 minutes ago, dhupverg said:

Unlike your boy Biden who has had aneurym's and now it is clearly showing with his cognitive decline on full display.  

 

I'm wondering how long before the MSM correlate the acceleration of Biden's cognitive decline with the start of the EUA's.  Because some of the right wing media is already on it, like white on rice.  I figure the MSM will cover it some time after the 2028 elections.

 

15 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Some people died after taking the vaccine. 

While no vaccine is flawless, it’s rare for people to die after vaccination. However, overall mortality would be much higher without vaccination. It’s intriguing how some lifelong followers of medical science now resist vaccination due to political ideology.

1 hour ago, susanlea said:

Some people died after taking the vaccine. 

It saved many millions of lives .the wife and I are just getting out of the quarantine stage of our Covid infection thankfully after getting the jab + the boosters it was more akin to a mild cold more inconvenient than deadly thanks again dr Fauci for your selfless pursuit of the public good 👍 you sir are a fine example of a human being I salute you

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1 minute ago, LosLobo said:

While no vaccine is flawless, it’s rare for people to die after vaccination. However, overall mortality would be much higher without vaccination. It’s intriguing how some lifelong followers of medical science now resist vaccination due to political ideology.

People should pick and choose. Their body, their choice. It is intriguing how people want to force drugs onto people.

1 hour ago, Tug said:

It saved many millions of lives don’t make yourself sound like an imbecile.the wife and I are just getting out of the quarantine stage of our Covid infection thankfully after getting the jab + the boosters it was more akin to a mild cold more inconvenient than deadly thanks again dr Fauci for your selfless pursuit of the public good 👍 you sir are a fine example of a human being I salute you

How did it save the lives of young people?

 

 

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I highly suggest to learn more about Fauci and RFK Jr to read "The Real Anthony Fauci"  Notice there has not been a single lawsuit againt this book by Fauci for the contents.  After reading this, you will see Fauci as the bad actor he really is.   

 

Note the 25,000 reviews and the 4.8 rating.  Feel free to read the comments by those who have purchased the book.  

 

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Anthony-Fauci-Democracy-Childrens/dp/1510766804

1 hour ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Biden has  what?

Had not has.  This was back in 1988 when he had two brain surgeries.  It is questionable whether his aneurysm is responsible for his cognitive decline.

1 hour ago, susanlea said:

Some people died after taking the vaccine. 

 

43 minutes ago, susanlea said:

People should pick and choose. Their body, their choice. It is intriguing how people want to force drugs onto people.

Yet you use trick posts without reasoning or logic to possibly influence others.

Perhaps you should present your point of view for an honest respectful and factual discussion.

In your first post I have never seen so many illogical fallacies in so few words:
 

Hasty Generalization:

The claim that “some people died” is vague and lacks context. It doesn’t specify how many people, under what circumstances, or whether these deaths are directly attributable to the vaccine.

Without reviewing all available evidence, jumping to conclusions about vaccine-related deaths based on a few instances is a hasty generalization.

False Dichotomy:
The statement implies a binary choice: either people die from the vaccine or they don’t. However, this oversimplification ignores other possibilities.

In reality, vaccine safety is a nuanced topic. Some people may experience adverse effects, but the vast majority benefit from vaccination by preventing severe illness and death.

Red Herring:

Focusing on vaccine-related deaths distracts from the broader context. Vaccines save lives by reducing overall mortality and preventing severe COVID-19 cases.

The real question should be: How many lives have vaccines saved compared to the potential risks?
 

Causal Fallacy (Correlational Fallacy):

Correlation does not imply causation. Just because someone died after receiving the vaccine doesn’t mean the vaccine caused their death.

Proper investigation is needed to establish a causal link, considering other factors and underlying health conditions.

In summary, critical thinking requires us to consider the full picture, evaluate evidence, and avoid oversimplifications. While adverse events can occur, the overall benefits of COVID-19 vaccination far outweigh the risks.

COVID-19 Vaccines Save Lives, Are Not More Lethal Than COVID-19 - FactCheck.org

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1 hour ago, susanlea said:

It is intriguing how people want to force drugs onto people.

I can't think of an instance where a vaccine was forced into anyone. Yes, people were encouraged, cajoled, implored and so on, but not once has anyone tied someone down and forced the needle in.

35 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

consider the full picture, evaluate evidence, and avoid oversimplifications.

Great response.

11 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I can't think of an instance where a vaccine was forced into anyone. Yes, people were encouraged, cajoled, implored and so on, but not once has anyone tied someone down and forced the needle in.

Prior to January of last year, U.S. military members were mandated to have Covid19 vaccinations along with nine other shots.  Unless they were granted a religious or medical exemption, refusal could mean disciplinary action. 

Outside of the military, many employees, both government and private sector, faced suspensions or dismissals for not getting vaccinated.  While no one was forced to be vaccinated there were steep costs for refusing.

Ever see the movie "The Dallas Byers Club" ?

AZT that killed a lots people with HIV/AID's.

That was Dr. Facui.

people are deaf and blind to the fact he knew it was from a lab and because of gain of function he sponsored via backdoor financial support?

53 minutes ago, rice555 said:

Ever see the movie "The Dallas Byers Club" ?

AZT that killed a lots people with HIV/AID's.

That was Dr. Facui.

 

most people are ignorant about these facts and how difficult they made it to import some drugs from mexico...  same drugs, but 10x more expensive, because USA nr 1

18 minutes ago, john donson said:

people are deaf and blind to the fact he knew it was from a lab and because of gain of function he sponsored via backdoor financial support?

B.S. conspiracy theory  as usual. 😀

As always very bias, one sided content.  i read “The real Anthony Fauci”… it was very eye opening.
 

So many lawsuit in the US yet media here reports nothing. 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-backs-lawsuits-against-pfizer-over-covid-19-vaccine-safety-the-tide-is-turning-101719371877572.html#

 

2 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Prior to January of last year, U.S. military members were mandated to have Covid19 vaccinations along with nine other shots.  Unless they were granted a religious or medical exemption, refusal could mean disciplinary action. 

Outside of the military, many employees, both government and private sector, faced suspensions or dismissals for not getting vaccinated.  While no one was forced to be vaccinated there were steep costs for refusing.

An employer has the right to give employees a choice - do this or that or leave. Did you think employers have no rights?

57 minutes ago, Zab1e said:

As always very bias, one sided content.  i read “The real Anthony Fauci”… it was very eye opening.
 

So many lawsuit in the US yet media here reports nothing. 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-backs-lawsuits-against-pfizer-over-covid-19-vaccine-safety-the-tide-is-turning-101719371877572.html#

 

US is a very litigious country. Why you surprise? 

2 hours ago, rice555 said:

Ever see the movie "The Dallas Byers Club" ?

AZT that killed a lots people with HIV/AID's.

That was Dr. Facui.

That's simply untrue. This has been refuted many times. Also, Fauci didn't invent it.

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-aids-hiv-fauci-covid-pandemic-833586389602

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2024/what-is-azt-aaron-rodgers-conspiracy-theory-hiv-aids-drug/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/06/22/no-azt-hasnt-caused-hundreds-of-thousands-of-deaths-fact-check/70321406007/

 

 

5 hours ago, susanlea said:

Some people died after taking the vaccine. 

Some people died after eating ice cream. 

37 minutes ago, Purdey said:

An employer has the right to give employees a choice - do this or that or leave. Did you think employers have no rights?

Hobson's choice  is not a choice.

37 minutes ago, Purdey said:

An employer has the right to give employees a choice - do this or that or leave. Did you think employers have no rights?

 

This court didn't think so.  To the tune of $700K.  The floodgates are opening.

 

Tennessee woman fired for refusing employer's COVID-19 vaccine mandate wins almost $700K

 

https://fox17.com/news/local/woman-fired-for-refusing-bcbsts-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-awarded-almost-700k-tanja-benton-bluecross-blueshield-of-tennessee-sincerely-held-religious-belief-coronavirus-employee-directive-fired-for-not-getting-shot

 

 

5 hours ago, susanlea said:

People should pick and choose. Their body, their choice. It is intriguing how people want to force drugs onto people.

If living alone sure. Not in society with interactions. I would not want my children at school with unvaccinated.