5 hours ago, Celsius said:

Lived in many different condos over the years. Most have Daikin aircons. After literally  6 months of moving in (no exceptions) every single one starts leaking. 

 

This last one ruined a beautiful 55 inch bedroom TV from all the water leakage.

 

Why are they so crap?

Wow, I am so happy that I only have a 48 incher in the bedroom, with the aircon on another wall. 555

2 hours ago, Denim said:

We also had a Daikon aircon unit

I had a daikon recently, it was a load of radish. 

6 daiken units in my house.

All installed new in 2019.

All work perfectly.

All still look like new.

All are service every 6 months.

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

 

Serviced when we moved in.... in May this year.

 

And every landlord cleaned and changed filters on your precious Daikin when we moved in....4 times so far and every single time Daikin never disappoints with leakage.

 

 

 

Why did they clean filters if they were replacing them ?

 

If it has been cleaned and service 4 times since May..... the leakage issue is an instillation issue.

Edited September 20, 20241 yr by Ralf001

5 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

We have installed well over 100 air conditioning units, the Daikin ones are the worst we’ve installed in the last 10 years. The covers go brown, the vane cover changes color at a different rate, they are not sealed for geckos and the logic boards break. They are expensive to repair, when the outside unit goes specifically the power board it’s cheaper to throw them away and fit a new one,

 

We now fit TCL as standard and it’s a far superior product.

Do you recommend commercial grade ones vs domestic ?

Are these the ones that save a lot of energy costs..forgot the type of a/c that is...it varies the output or some such feedback system.

I own a Samsung, a Hairer and a TCL,

 

The TCL is much better than the other two.

16 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

Do you recommend commercial grade ones vs domestic ?

Are these the ones that save a lot of energy costs..forgot the type of a/c that is...it varies the output or some such feedback system.

Inverter type

26 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Why did they clean filters if they were replacing them ?

 

If it has been cleaned and service 4 times since May..... the leakage issue is an instillation issue.

 

I meant 4 different condos that we changed.

22 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

Do you recommend commercial grade ones vs domestic ?

Are these the ones that save a lot of energy costs..forgot the type of a/c that is...it varies the output or some such feedback system.

We always install inverter units, they are the ones that save money.

 

5 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

I meant 4 different condos that we changed.

 

Ahh ok.. yeah your post was clear as mud.

I think the important thing to know about air-conditioning, is that in the last five or six years there has been a revolution.

 

It used to be the case that Mitsubishi and Dakin were considered the best and there was a world of difference between them and everything else.

 

That has all changed, with high-quality Chinese units exploding onto the market at very low prices. They are every bit as good as Dakin and Mitsubishi and typically between a quarter and half the price. 
 

We only fit TCL in our villas now unless we want a heat cool unit. 

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

Can you say that in Thailand

 

that in Thailand

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

Can you say that in Thailand

that in Thailand

 

20 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

We have installed well over 100 air conditioning units, the Daikin ones are the worst we’ve installed in the last 10 years. The covers go brown, the vane cover changes color at a different rate, they are not sealed for geckos and the logic boards break. They are expensive to repair, when the outside unit goes specifically the power board it’s cheaper to throw them away and fit a new one,

 

We now fit TCL as standard and it’s a far superior product.

do you know if tcl inverters have sealed logic boards?
i confirm what you say about daikin's super inverter, they are weak and very expensive to repair just because of the geckos getting fried on pcb, not to mention they are more expensive to buy and install. a very costly junk just based on an outdated reputation of quality.

Edited September 21, 20241 yr by Ludzilla

7 minutes ago, Ludzilla said:

do you know if tcl inverters has sealed logic boards?
i confirm what you say about daikin's super inverter, they are weak and very expensive to repair just because of the geckos getting fried on pcb, not to mention they are more xpensive to buy and install. a very costly junk just based on an outdated reputation of quality.

I haven’t checked how well the TCL units seal the logic board from gecko ingress, but we haven’t had any kind of fault on any of them.

 

I particularly like that after a power cut or brief interruption, they just work.  Mitsubishi are the same but with Fujitsu, Carrier and Daikin I get phone calls asking how to reset them.

 

TCL do an internet connected unit too, we haven’t tried any of them.

20 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It also depends on the individual AC models.

I bought Daikin ACs with WLAN remote control. I can control them from anywhere, i.e. I switch them on maybe 5min before I return home.

It's up to each of us if we want to use extra features and if we want to pay for them.

 

 

 

hacking wifi now, taking control of airconditioners.

 

 

 

22 hours ago, Celsius said:

Lived in many different condos over the years. Most have Daikin aircons. After literally  6 months of moving in (no exceptions) every single one starts leaking. 

 

This last one ruined a beautiful 55 inch bedroom TV from all the water leakage.

 

Why are they so crap?

 

I disagree.

Lived here 24 years. Only had two units in that time - both Daikin.

I only upgraded to the latest one (inverter type) when electricity went up to almost 10 baht per unit.

Very economical, ultra quiet and cools the bedroom very quickly.

I never have the a/c on all night - too cold. (Set to 29 C)

Never leaks and no trouble at all.

I'm a happy little bunny with my unit.

 

Is the leakage problem lack of maintenance?

When I lived in Singapore - all condo units had a maintenance contract for the a/c. Cleaned and checked every 3 months.

It was compulsory and in the lease.

Edited September 21, 20241 yr by Tropicalevo

On 9/20/2024 at 4:25 PM, proton said:

Anyone experience with Central air cons? saw them in a Hotel and was impressed very quiet with a nice remote. Never seen them mentioned on here, have to replace old Mitsu heavy duty as it sounds like a motorbike at time even though it's always been cleaned, even taken apart a couple of times. 

Best AC units right now in Thailand regarding Price/Quality. 

3 hours ago, morphem said:

Best AC units right now in Thailand regarding Price/Quality. 

 

Are they Chinese? 

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

Are they Chinese? 

It's a Japanese Brand, but made here in Thailand.

On 9/20/2024 at 5:01 PM, JBChiangRai said:

I bought the Daikin Smile Inverter units for 2 villas, 11 units and 4 Mitsubishi heat cool in the same villas. 
 

in other villas I have fitted Mitsubishi Heat cool, TCL, Fujitsu Heat Cool and Carrier.

 

The only ones that haven’t yellowed are TCL, Carrier and Fujitsu. The only ones that leaked are Mitsubishi.

 

Mitsubishi and TCL are the only ones I would recommend in a rental property because they work after all kinds of power outages. The others sometimes need resetting.

 

We’ve fitted about 15 TCL inverter units, never a problem, still white after 4 years and silent operation.

 

To be fair, I think Daikin are generally very good, but I think their smile range from about 8-9 years back are junk.

 

 

How regularly do your TCLs get cleaned?

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

How regularly do your TCLs get cleaned?

 

They are professionally cleaned once a year, but the internal filters are washed every two months,

 

One unit that runs 24/7 is cleaned twice a year

On 9/20/2024 at 12:43 PM, Celsius said:

Lived in many different condos over the years. Most have Daikin aircons. After literally  6 months of moving in (no exceptions) every single one starts leaking. 

 

This last one ruined a beautiful 55 inch bedroom TV from all the water leakage.

 

Why are they so crap?

They have a low quality capacitor on the compressor. But it should not be 6 months, they last 4-5 years, in general.

On the flip side, Daikin uses a superior cooling gas from other brands. Not sure if that's the reason for more frequent failures on the compressor, though.

We have just under 25% failure rate on Daikin compressor power boards and over 50% failure rate on the internal logic board.

13 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

They are professionally cleaned once a year, but the internal filters are washed every two months,

 

One unit that runs 24/7 is cleaned twice a year

I just tried the self clean function on the TCL AC and didn't seem to work, maybe it's for certain models only. Should have come up with CL on the display and lasted for 30 minutes, instead showed AC and lasted 5 minutes

The Aircon guy is here and he keeps saying in panic... no flow, no flow

 

What is happening he seems puzzled.

 

and so am I

On 9/21/2024 at 11:39 AM, Tropicalevo said:

I only upgraded to the latest one (inverter type) when electricity went up to almost 10 baht per unit.

Who's getting ripped off? PEA rate is about Bht 4 !

On 9/24/2024 at 9:26 AM, scubascuba3 said:

I just tried the self clean function on the TCL AC and didn't seem to work, maybe it's for certain models only. Should have come up with CL on the display and lasted for 30 minutes, instead showed AC and lasted 5 minutes

Was it making ice on the evaporator?

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

Who's getting ripped off? PEA rate is about Bht 4 !

No one.

Standard rate for many private developments here is 7 - 8 baht. Plus VAT, plus FT - somewhere between 9 - 10 baht a unit depending on the FT.

PEA will not supply inside most private developments as the cables are all installed underground.

Higher maintenance fees.

The highest price that I know of was a nearby development that was charging 29 baht per unit.

Now THAT was a rip off.

21 minutes ago, frequentatore said:

Was it making ice on the evaporator?

No, there was nothing wrong with it, i thought I'd just try a self clean