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Sinking scandal: Pattaya’s new footpaths crumbling already


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33 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Conspiracy theorists would say they intentionally build cr ap quality roads so they get repeat business and bungs all round

That is not a theory as admitted to me by a construction company manager.

Also, building on sand is cheaper.

When they tarmacked the roads (instead of plain concrete) the roads started to collapse within six months.

Those pot 'canyons' are still there some 10 years later.

A far as I know, only one road here on Samui was built on hardcore that was packed down. All of the rest are built sans hardcore.

Just compacted earth.

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2 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

The person in charge of the design and construction of Thepprasit road should be taken to court. What an utter disaster that road is from one end to the other.

 

 

Agree....it all starts with the design specs.....if they are low grade you are dead in the water.

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38 minutes ago, retarius said:

I never understand why Thais like interlocking pavers for sidewalks (pavements). They look beautiful then a cement truck comes along fully loaded and wants to park to go in the 7/11, so drives over the kerb and ruins all the overlocking pavers. So that instead of a nice smooth pavement, you have a trap to trip over and smash your head on the pavement. 

Because then the weeds can grow in the cracks which gives it a more natural look.

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50 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Agree....it all starts with the design specs.....if they are low grade you are dead in the water.

I have seen cut armor to place in the concrete to at the side ends, just to show they using armor. So go figure, it is not the designer, they works out from standards and specs, but those who get the contracts is cheating

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5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have seen cut armor to place in the concrete to at the side ends, just to show they using armor. So go figure, it is not the designer, they works out from standards and specs, but those who get the contracts is cheating

 

 

And you watch every path in Thailand being laid?......well done you!

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What kind of materials were used here they ask,?  its not about the materials so much as to what kind of labour force were they using, they  dont have a clue how to lay cement,  or pavers ..go have a look at Soi Padtanakan East Pattaya , the whole length of the Soi (couple of miles) had new footpath installed  a few years ago, today you cannot walk on it  because  1; its crumbling and very uneven 2; most of the footpath is covered in grass and weeds  where the foundation was'nt compacted properly, but no  one checks thier work

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1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Agree....it all starts with the design specs.....if they are low grade you are dead in the water.

Do you really believe anyone here is qualified to read and understand design specs....never mind put them into practice :whistling:

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by the time everyone has taken their cut there is not enough left to do it properly as sp[ecified. The road/footpath near our other house has been undergoing repairs for 5 years after the contractor never finished what they started and cut corners, they never piped the drains and water would flood out of them during rain because the drains were only for show anf only boxed at the entry. Roads collapsed, where they cut through side steets  they never repaired them and only filled them with sand, foot paths just stopped in the middle of no where, the road leading to the bridge has dropped around 30cm/12" because they only used red dirt fill under it and now just has an angled section  to get on and off the brdge. All this is done with govt supervision and the contractor just pockets the money, its how it works in Thailand, contracts are sold off once they are won  and this continues till there is not enough money to actually do what is required, graft in Thailand is alive and doing very well.

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12 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

And you watch every path in Thailand being laid?......well done you!

We have family members working road construction in Bangkok, and Rayong, as well the team building our farm also confirmed the same. 

 

Have you seen the design and specs of the roads? 

 

Do you believe they using the budget without any corruption to meet the standards and specs? 

 

Interesting to know

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27 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Corruption in Thailand?......you'll need to provide hard evidence to convince me.

 

 

 

Find another one to play with, it is a big kindergarten here, so shouldn't be a problem

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3 hours ago, webfact said:

Nikom pointed out that sand, not cement, was found beneath the sidewalk surface – a shocking shortcut that has caused major structural issues.

Why wasn't there a city inspector onsite to ensure that the work was being done properly? 

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

“Enforcement of traffic laws remains inconsistent.”

Because the police only target foreigners driving so they can collect more money onsite. 

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The quality of workers I see at diiferent road  projects appears very low.  Farm animals eyes radiate a more keen intellect than the cement road laborers that I have been walking by for years.  Rarely do I ever see a manager overseeing the work. 

 

Likely they are using the shortcut method at every turn as the caved in sidewalks and roads indicate.  

 

Another big problem is avoiding being splashed by cars driving through water puddles next to sidewalks.  Every rain season the puddles on the road next to the pedestrian sidewalk by my condo linger for weeks as the workers sloped the concrete away from the drains.  Pickup trucks belching black smoke love to try to splash walkers by driving through the water puddles.

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3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Conspiracy theorists would say they intentionally build cr ap quality roads so they get repeat business and bungs all round

People who didn't read the article but are fascinated by the sound of their own voice would say this, because the article explicitly says that the sidewalks are covered by warranty.  

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26 minutes ago, HalAndLois said:

People who didn't read the article but are fascinated by the sound of their own voice would say this, because the article explicitly says that the sidewalks are covered by warranty.  

Just because it explicitly says it, doesn't mean it's true!

Do you believe everything you read?

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