36 minutes ago, farangkinok said:

Yeah, like Nash in "A Beautiful Mind".

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Well now that I have demonstrated the utter bankruptcy of your thought on the subject, I can  move to other folks who need schooling.

Pathetic fake. Be warned about this troll.

17 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Scientists are the opposite of conspiracy theorists.

 

Depends who's paying them

9 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Sure, men and women of power and wealth conspire.

 

 

Nuff said.

 

Try again with the Shiva video - those with a 10 minute + attention span will get a lot from it.

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, farangkinok said:

 

buT unLesS mUH msM saY iT iT iSNt dA Tro0F!

3 hours ago, BruceWayne said:

 

 

Nuff said.

 

Try again with the Shiva video - those with a 10 minute + attention span will get a lot from it.

No, not “nuff said.” You quoted me but left out my qualifying statements. Which is typical of your sort of argument. I’m not going to waste time repeating myself.

 

As for Dr. Shiva, thanks but no thanks -- you go right ahead. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

4 hours ago, BruceWayne said:

 

Depends who's paying them

Do you have any evidence of peer reviewed science being impacted by money?

 

Or, are you suggesting that scientists who oppose the Global Warming hypothesis are doing so because of oil company funding?

Russia shares AI images of Hurricane Milton as disinformation abounds in US

 

Russia is trying to make Americans think the hurricane was worse than the media is saying.

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Russia shares AI images of Hurricane Milton as disinformation abounds in US

 

Russia is trying to make Americans think the hurricane was worse than the media is saying.

The US election is spawning vast amounts of total BS. This forum is full of it. Trolls having a field day. Name and shame!

The fact is, it's good to be skeptical of MSM. The vast majority are politically biased (some more obviously than others) and often get things wrong, with huge headlines that millions see, that they later quietly retract when nobody is listening and the damage is already done.

 

Here are just a few examples (well, over 30 actually) of "unintentional errors" from the BBC.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications/

 

 

That's why it's good to watch what is going on yourself, rather than waiting for a Guardian editorial on an issue to let you know what to think about it, as certain trolls and gaslighters do. 

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you have any evidence of peer reviewed science being impacted by money?

 

Or, are you suggesting that scientists who oppose the Global Warming hypothesis are doing so because of oil company funding?

This is only one example (of your second alternative above), from several years ago, but I'm sure there's more. The tobacco industry's fake scientists were a good model for this sort of thing.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/feb/21/climate-change-denier-willie-soon-funded-energy-industry

On 10/7/2024 at 1:28 PM, Smilin in Thailand said:

Submit to authority!

 

Don't dare think for yourself!

 

You are a mindless automaton and will do as you are told.

 

This is what OP is really saying to you.

 

59 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The fact is, it's good to be skeptical of MSM. The vast majority are politically biased (some more obviously than others) and often get things wrong, with huge headlines that millions see, that they later quietly retract when nobody is listening and the damage is already done.

 

Here are just a few examples (well, over 30 actually) of "unintentional errors" from the BBC.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications/

 

 

That's why it's good to watch what is going on yourself, rather than waiting for a Guardian editorial on an issue to let you know what to think about it, as certain trolls and gaslighters do. 

At least the BBC holds up it's hand. Where are the rest of the MSM apologies? Where're the Fox corrections? And the Express, Mail, and all the other gutter press? Alex Jones? And all the other BS artists? MTG? They never apologise for spreading lies intentionally. Like Vance encourages people to do, claiming it's perfectly legitimate when campaigning. Oh, now the fake argument isso many of whstcwere considered conspiracy theories have been proved to be true. The only one a proponent of this theory could produce was Galileo's proposition of a heliocentric solar system. On almost every aspect of Galileo's life he was wrong. Brilliant!

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_in_United_States_politics

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_right_(United_States)

 

9 minutes ago, bradiston said:

At least the BBC holds up it's hand. Where are the rest of the MSM apologies? Where're the Fox corrections? And the Express, Mail, and all the other gutter press? Alex Jones? And all the other BS artists? MTG? They never apologise for spreading lies intentionally. Like Vance encourages people to do, claiming it's perfectly legitimate when campaigning. Oh, now the fake argument isso many of whstcwere considered conspiracy theories have been proved to be true. The only one a proponent of this theory could produce was Galileo's proposition of a heliocentric solar system. On almost every aspect of Galileo's life he was wrong. Brilliant!

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_in_United_States_politics

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_right_(United_States)

 

 

Both sides do it. The only difference is that the BBC has to admit when it has done it as it is a publicly funded state broadcaster and is supposed to be accurate and impartial. Something it regularly fails at. 

 

My point, which you have proved (albeit from a far left perspective focusing only on the right), is that questioning the MSM narrative does not make you a "conspiracy theorist". The MSM often get it wrong (sometimes deliberately, sometimes not) as my link shows, so to not question it having seen how often they get it wrong would be pretty stupid IMO. 

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you have any evidence of peer reviewed science being impacted by money?

 

Peer reviewed often = NONsense

https://slate.com/technology/2015/04/fake-peer-review-scientific-journals-publish-fraudulent-plagiarized-or-nonsense-papers.html

 

As for 'mUH eVIdRntZ' I don't need it - I'm intelligent.

He who pays the piper calls the tune.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Russia shares AI images of Hurricane Milton as disinformation abounds in US

 

Russia is trying to make Americans think the hurricane was worse than the media is saying.

 

Or the guardian (MI6?) is trying to make you think that Russia is trying to make Americans think the hurricane was worse than the media is saying.

 

But the guardian woouldn't lie to you would they?

 

Edited October 11, 20241 yr by BruceWayne

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Both sides do it. The only difference is that the BBC has to admit when it has done it as it is a publicly funded state broadcaster and is supposed to be accurate and impartial. Something it regularly fails at. 

 

My point, which you have proved (albeit from a far left perspective focusing only on the right), is that questioning the MSM narrative does not make you a "conspiracy theorist". The MSM often get it wrong (sometimes deliberately, sometimes not) as my link shows, so to not question it having seen how often they get it wrong would be pretty stupid IMO. 

I took your post to be a thinly disguised attack on the BBC, whereas IMO the BBC is to be applauded for correcting itself, which not many in the so called "MSM" do. They also have a dedicated verification team for photos, videos, and claims by politicians of all parties, and others.

 

I'm not a big reader of  "MSM". I admit to reading Al Jazeera, BBC news and sport, because that's my preferred "home town" media outlet, but both in very small doses, BKK post, Thai Examiner. I used to read Reuters and DW, and watch France 24. Hardly a left wing reading list. Why do you think I'm left wing? I think I know their individual biases and can filter based on that. The right likes to characterise anybody reading any "MSM" as brain dead morons. Fox and all the other right wing media outlets are all part of "MSM". That's a lot of brain death.

38 minutes ago, bradiston said:

They also have a dedicated verification team for photos, videos, and claims by politicians of all parties, and others.

 

Yes a team so concerned with the truth that they lie on their own CV.

 

https://deadline.com/2023/09/bbc-disinformation-reporter-marianna-spring-accused-of-lying-1235540282/

 

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yes a team so concerned with the truth that they lie on their own CV.

 

https://deadline.com/2023/09/bbc-disinformation-reporter-marianna-spring-accused-of-lying-1235540282/

 

 

Another budding Ruangkrai. Is this all you do?