South Korea's spy agency has reported that North Korea has begun sending troops to aid Russia in its conflict with Ukraine, a move Seoul has described as a "grave security threat." This alarming revelation comes a day after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky suggested that as many as 10,000 North Korean soldiers could join the war, citing intelligence reports.

 

In response to these developments, South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol convened a security meeting, urging the international community to respond with "all available means." According to South Korea's National Intelligence Service (NIS), 1,500 North Korean troops have already arrived in Russia, with some estimates suggesting that the final number could reach up to 12,000. This comes amidst increasing evidence that North Korea has also been supplying Russia with ammunition, including a missile found in Ukraine’s Poltava region.

 

"The West can not stay silent. It is time to make a move."

The West can not stay silent. It is time to make a move. pic.twitter.com/pfy4hZCW1F

— Marko Mihkelson (@markomihkelson) October 18, 2024

 

The growing cooperation between Moscow and Pyongyang has been evident in recent months. North Korean leader Kim Jong Un recently congratulated Russian President Vladimir Putin on his birthday, referring to him as his "closest comrade." This camaraderie between the two nations has raised concerns, particularly as North Korea continues to provide military support to Russia.

At the security meeting, officials from South Korea's National Security Office, the Ministry of National Defence, and the NIS discussed the situation. Yoon's office released a statement saying, "[The participants] decided not to ignore the situation and to jointly respond to it with the international community using all available means."

 

The NIS's allegations follow reports from Ukrainian military intelligence suggesting that Russia is forming a unit comprised of North Korean soldiers. On Thursday, Ukraine’s spy chief Kyrylo Budanov claimed that around 11,000 North Korean infantry troops were training in eastern Russia and would be ready to fight in Ukraine by November 1. "They will be ready [to fight in Ukraine] on 1 November," Lt Gen Budanov stated, adding that the first group of 2,600 soldiers would be deployed to Russia's western Kursk region, where Ukrainian forces currently hold several settlements.

 

Earlier this week, Russian President Vladimir Putin introduced a bill to ratify a military pact with Kim Jong Un, promising mutual support in the event of "aggression" against either nation. This development further underscores the strengthening of military ties between the two countries.

 

South Korea’s NIS has also reported that North Korean troops are currently training at Russian military bases in Vladivostok, Ussuriysk, Khabarovsk, and Vlagoveshensk. Aerial photographs of these locations have been released, showing gatherings of North Korean soldiers. Additionally, a photograph of North Korea’s Chongjin port reportedly shows a Russian ship carrying North Korean troops.

 

The NIS revealed that since August, North Korea has sent 13,000 containers filled with shells, missiles, and anti-armour rockets to Russia. It is believed that around eight million 122-mm and 152-mm shells have been supplied.

 

However, some military experts question the effectiveness of incorporating North Korean troops into the Russian frontlines, citing language barriers and the lack of recent combat experience among North Korean forces. Valeriy Ryabykh, editor of the Ukrainian publication *Defence Express*, commented, "They could guard some sections of the Russian-Ukrainian border, which would free Russian units for fighting elsewhere. I would rule out the possibility that these units will immediately appear on the front line."

 

Based on a report from the BBC | X 2024-10-19

 

 

 

Surely this is now a red line crossed and Biden will allow Ukraine to use its long range missiles into Russia. This is a huge escalation by Russia, not only using NK military missiles, shells etc but now major numbers of NK foot soldiers. NATO, wake up!

During the build up to the first Gulf War with Iraq all the media was on about their tanks and massive army, fourth biggest in the world, Republican Guard.

And on paper it looked impressive. But they weren't

 

Now you have an elite group of NK soldiers with pictures of them marching in perfect formation in fancy kit. 

Have to learn precision formation marching for display to dear leader.

 

But does the fancy kit exist, has it been tested? where did it come from? what kind of combat arms training do they have?

What are they actually supposed to be trained in, besides marching

All things to be determined in the fog of battle 

Lots of unknowns.

On 10/19/2024 at 7:36 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Surely this is now a red line crossed and Biden will allow Ukraine to use its long range missiles into Russia. This is a huge escalation by Russia, not only using NK military missiles, shells etc but now major numbers of NK foot soldiers. NATO, wake up!

How are some foreign soldiers fighting for Russia a red line yet foreign soldiers fighting for Ukraine isn’t? Ah yes, hypocrisy of course.

1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:

How are some foreign soldiers fighting for Russia a red line yet foreign soldiers fighting for Ukraine isn’t? Ah yes, hypocrisy of course.

The confusion rests with you, foreign fighters have been fighting for Russia for over two years the same way Ukraine has been utilizing its foreign fighters. This is an individual state, North Korea that is now joining in with Russia, understand now? Doubt it,

I didnt think russia were so desperate to accept troops from a country as dysfunctional as north korea

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The confusion rests with you, foreign fighters have been fighting for Russia for over two years the same way Ukraine has been utilizing its foreign fighters. This is an individual state, North Korea that is now joining in with Russia, understand now? Doubt it,

There is no confusion, just hypocrisy as usual from the collective west. 
 

Also no evidence that NH, as a state, is sending soldiers to fight. Even NATO says so.

Just now, Gweiloman said:

There is no confusion, just hypocrisy as usual from the collective west. 
 

Also no evidence that NH, as a state, is sending soldiers to fight. Even NATO says so.

Link to your claim that NATO is denying the claims? Nonsense without......

The bigger problem now is that the extent of the relationships are proven. They involve quid pro quo if NK wants to attack the South and if Xi wants to make a move on Taiwan, at a time when US supplies to Israel and Ukraine are already overstretched.. 

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Link to your claim that NATO is denying the claims? Nonsense without......

Pentagon chief says he cannot confirm reports North Korean troops in Russia for possible Ukraine deployment

https://www.reuters.com/world/pentagon-chief-says-cannot-confirm-reports-north-korean-troops-russia-possible-2024-10-19/

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5 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Pentagon chief says he cannot confirm reports North Korean troops in Russia for possible Ukraine deployment

https://www.reuters.com/world/pentagon-chief-says-cannot-confirm-reports-north-korean-troops-russia-possible-2024-10-19/

You claimed NATO and not confirming it yet does not mean is is not happening, unless you are blind to the videos of it happening

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

You claimed NATO and not confirming it yet does not mean is is not happening, unless you are blind to the videos of it happening

I didn't realize you didn't know that NATO and the Pentagon are one and the same.

 

As for videos, western made ones. Show me some NK and Russian made videos. Those are more credible, imo.

12 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

I didn't realize you didn't know that NATO and the Pentagon are one and the same.

 

As for videos, western made ones. Show me some NK and Russian made videos. Those are more credible, imo.

I didn't realize you didn't know that NATO and the Pentagon are one and the same.

 

They are not. NATO HQ is in Belgium

 

Its also not a western made video, its Russian made.........

Most of them will die in a week or so and the rest will defect as soon as they see the chance.

Putin has to pay them 2000 dollars and that times 10 000 nice little earner for

Kim.

As long as Kim does not expect Putin to pay for dead soldiers,all will be fine.

Just showing how desperate putin is.

@ Gweiloman,you do not believe in anything the west says right?

but you believe what Mark Rutte said?

More meat for the Ukrainian guns and more practice for the drone operators.

4 minutes ago, jvs said:

Most of them will die in a week or so and the rest will defect as soon as they see the chance.

Putin has to pay them 2000 dollars and that times 10 000 nice little earner for

Kim.

As long as Kim does not expect Putin to pay for dead soldiers,all will be fine.

Just showing how desperate putin is.

@ Gweiloman,you do not believe in anything the west says right?

but you believe what Mark Rutte said?

More meat for the Ukrainian guns and more practice for the drone operators.

Maybe they will and maybe they will. You don’t have a clue nor do I. But I don’t make up fantastical statements.

 

The west has a narrative that it needs to push, to justify continuing a losing course of action. I don’t believe Mark Rutte either but there are times when they know that they can only push so far. I believe it’s called expediency but I could be wrong as English is not my native language.

 

As for more meat for Ukrainian guns? If Ukraine is killing so many Russians and their allies, why the desperation to join NATO or wanting nuclear weapons? This is what happens when you only believe approved, credible sources. You don’t realise truth of what’s happening.

4 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

As for more meat for Ukrainian guns? If Ukraine is killing so many Russians and their allies, why the desperation to join NATO or wanting nuclear weapons? This is what happens when you only believe approved, credible sources. You don’t realise truth of what’s happening.

Well it is a fact(i know facts don't matter to you but,)that if the Ukraine would have been a full fledged member of NATO putin would have never attacked them.

That is why Sweden and Finland joined,to show putin where the line in the snow is.

You don't realize truth of what's happening.

4 hours ago, jvs said:

Well it is a fact(i know facts don't matter to you but,)that if the Ukraine would have been a full fledged member of NATO putin would have never attacked them.

That is why Sweden and Finland joined,to show putin where the line in the snow is.

You don't realize truth of what's happening.

If Ukraine is a member of NATO, Putin would probably not have started his SMO as he doesn’t want a war with NATO. The reason he started it is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO as this would be an existential threat to Russia. The reason that Ukraine now wants expedited entry into NATO is because it’s losing the conflict badly, something which the msm will not tell you.

 

Finland joining NATO is unfortunate for him but also for Finland as it now has to spend more on defence as well as lose some of its sovereignty by having to allow NATO military bases on its soil. It has also unnecessarily put itself into a more dangerous situation. 
 

As for the truth of what’s happening, why don’t you enlighten us a bit more?

19 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

If Ukraine is a member of NATO, Putin would probably not have started his SMO as he doesn’t want a war with NATO. The reason he started it is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO as this would be an existential threat to Russia. The reason that Ukraine now wants expedited entry into NATO is because it’s losing the conflict badly, something which the msm will not tell you.

 

Finland joining NATO is unfortunate for him but also for Finland as it now has to spend more on defence as well as lose some of its sovereignty by having to allow NATO military bases on its soil. It has also unnecessarily put itself into a more dangerous situation. 
 

As for the truth of what’s happening, why don’t you enlighten us a bit more?

You are way of track and keep repeating the same old debunked russian propaganda.

Tell me please ,if the russians are winning this then why the need  for north korean soldiers?

Does that make sense to you?

Yes putin shot himself in the foot badly,he was living in the dream that he could take all of the Ukraine like he did Crimea.

After this is over he will have NATO at his border and that is all by his own doing.

If he would have taken all of the Ukraine he would also have NATO on his doorstep so where does that leave your argument?(it is not really an argument but ok)

You can not be enlightened, you are unwilling or unable to see what is going on.

 

17 minutes ago, jvs said:

You are way of track and keep repeating the same old debunked russian propaganda.

Tell me please ,if the russians are winning this then why the need  for north korean soldiers?

Does that make sense to you?

Yes putin shot himself in the foot badly,he was living in the dream that he could take all of the Ukraine like he did Crimea.

After this is over he will have NATO at his border and that is all by his own doing.

If he would have taken all of the Ukraine he would also have NATO on his doorstep so where does that leave your argument?(it is not really an argument but ok)

You can not be enlightened, you are unwilling or unable to see what is going on.

 

What is this Russian propaganda that has been debunked? And debunked by whom? Pray tell.

 

Need for NK soldiers? This is what’s being claimed by some in the west. Do you personally know if what’s being claimed the truth? Even the Pentagon and NATO is saying that there isn’t any evidence of this. There are many possible reasons why NK might want to send some of its officers and soldiers to Russia, all entirely valid and proper.

 

And you are now claiming to be psychic, knowing what Putin dreams about, lol.

 

As for having NATO at his doorstep, I guess you are rather naive and never heard of the term buffer zone.

 

I’m still waiting for you to enlighten us on what the truth is. Hint: it’s not wanting to occupy Ukraine.

49 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

What is this Russian propaganda that has been debunked? And debunked by whom? Pray tell.

 

Need for NK soldiers? This is what’s being claimed by some in the west. Do you personally know if what’s being claimed the truth? Even the Pentagon and NATO is saying that there isn’t any evidence of this. There are many possible reasons why NK might want to send some of its officers and soldiers to Russia, all entirely valid and proper.

 

And you are now claiming to be psychic, knowing what Putin dreams about, lol.

 

As for having NATO at his doorstep, I guess you are rather naive and never heard of the term buffer zone.

 

I’m still waiting for you to enlighten us on what the truth is. Hint: it’s not wanting to occupy Ukraine.

Instead of playing cryptic games why don't you just tell us what the truth is?

Why play these silly games? Pretending to know it all but refusing to accept the truth?

Yes putin killed the buffer zone,all by himself.

I don't think you are going to watch this video because as you will say it is all a Western lie but i am posting it for smarter people.

I am not going to respond to you anymore so fire away.

 

12 hours ago, jvs said:

Instead of playing cryptic games why don't you just tell us what the truth is?

Why play these silly games? Pretending to know it all but refusing to accept the truth?

Yes putin killed the buffer zone,all by himself.

I don't think you are going to watch this video because as you will say it is all a Western lie but i am posting it for smarter people.

I am not going to respond to you anymore so fire away.

 

The truth? Does anybody really know? Nation states will say one thing, that which is in their national interest. Government sponsored think tanks will of course repeat the official narrative, true or not. Media will say whatever they feel their audience wants to hear, confirmation bias, as this keeps them as viewers else they will switch to other channels.

 

So this leaves only the alternate media, with analysts like Sachs, Mearsheimer, Lottaz, Mercouris, David etc. However, they get cancelled by various platforms for reasons like being non credible. Who was it that judged them not to be credible when they have appeared before the UN, Congress, have been advisors to governments? Some of these platforms preach freedom of speech lol.

 

So, why did Russia launch a SMO against Ukraine? The most credible reason I have heard to date is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO. Is it true? Is the real reason instead that Russia wants to occupy Ukraine and then the rest of Europe? Anyone that believes it’s the latter is, shall we just say, in possession of a room temperature IQ.

Finally, Vladimir Putin has found someone who will listen to his stories about his great Soviet dream with genuine interest. Kim also sincerely misses those times. Together they will try to bring those times back. Z guys welcome the Korean brothers.

On 10/21/2024 at 10:30 AM, jvs said:

Instead of playing cryptic games why don't you just tell us what the truth is?

Why play these silly games? Pretending to know it all but refusing to accept the truth?

Yes putin killed the buffer zone,all by himself.

I don't think you are going to watch this video because as you will say it is all a Western lie but i am posting it for smarter people.

I am not going to respond to you anymore so fire away.

 

I must admit, Ukrainian and South Korean is amazing. From a seemingly innocuous photo such as this

 

 

they were able to conclude…

the movement of thousands of North Korean soldiers into Russia, according to Andriy Kovalenko, Ukraine's disinformation center chief, on Sunday, Oct. 20.

 

Even more amazing, from this very cryptic photo

 

they concluded that 

A special forces unit of 1,500 soldiers has already been deployed in Vladivostok,” Kovalenko added, sharing a satellite image published by South Korea’s Yonhap News agency.

 

Above from  https://english.nv.ua/nation/satellite-captures-north-korean-troops-moving-into-russia-for-ukraine-war-50459929.html, an approved and credible source. Amazing. And then I realised, Ukraine's disinformation center.

 

Did anybody realise that Ukraine has a disinformation centre? What is it? From the name, it tends to suggest a centre for spreading disinformation. And I must say that they’ve done a wonderful job.

That's quite strange: when your "enemy" sends troops far away to the North - opposite side from you, you should be ecstatically happy, no?

17 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

That's quite strange: when your "enemy" sends troops far away to the North - opposite side from you, you should be ecstatically happy, no?

One would think so but no, they even summoned the Russian ambassador to complain lol.

1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:

One would think so but no, they even summoned the Russian ambassador to complain lol.

Yes I saw it on TV. Looked like April 1st prank:

 

"Please, ask TzarVlad to reject Kim's offer and let him keep paratroopers and musketeers at our border. We'll miss them dearly!"

South Korea should its troops to Ukraine to counter the North Korean troops who went to the Russian front-line in Ukraine

8 hours ago, Banana7 said:

South Korea should its troops to Ukraine to counter the North Korean troops who went to the Russian front-line in Ukraine

Perhaps it will.

 

South Korea Could Follow North Into Russia-Ukraine War

A report said the government and military of South Korea "are reviewing a plan to send an appropriate number of personnel, including intelligence officers [specialized in North Korea] and experts in enemy tactics," to Ukraine, citing a South Korean intelligence official.

South Korean personnel in Ukraine would interrogate or provide interpretation services if North Korean soldiers were captured by Ukrainian forces, the report said. They would also provide Kyiv with information about the North's military tactics, doctrine, and operations.

The Defense Ministry of the South said at a press briefing later on Monday that it will review measures with "an open attitude" regarding possible supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine. Seoul has provided humanitarian aid to Kyiv during the Russia-Ukraine War.

https://www.newsweek.com/south-korea-news-could-follow-north-russia-ukraine-war-1972082

 

Obviously they want to get out of the North Korea dump by any means possible.1 missile would blow them all whilst in the barracks

North Korean troops fighting in Ukraine for Russia would be 'fair game,' White House says