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I loved it when they asked Elon what he would say to all of the federal workers that are now unemployed. His answer was "Just go do something else." lol 

 

He is absolutely right. He was able to get rid of about 80% of the employees at Twitter and it runs just fine. He sold off every piece of furniture, the espresso machines and whatever he could. 

 

If we are going to get our deficit down and the debt it will take this. 

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7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

I loved it when they asked Elon what he would say to all of the federal workers that are now unemployed. His answer was "Just go do something else." lol 

 

He is absolutely right. He was able to get rid of about 80% of the employees at Twitter and it runs just fine. He sold off every piece of furniture, the espresso machines and whatever he could. 

 

If we are going to get our deficit down and the debt it will take this. 

 

In 2023, Twitter's revenue dropped to around $3.4 billion, down from $4.4 billion in 2022. In the first six months of 2024, advertisers spent about 24% less on the platform than in the same period in 2023.

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2 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

In 2023, Twitter's revenue dropped to around $3.4 billion, down from $4.4 billion in 2022. In the first six months of 2024, advertisers spent about 24% less on the platform than in the same period in 2023.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/elon-musk-a-noshow-at-election-court-case/news-story/866abb9de952e26b12a3462fee02b2f3

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And history repeats itself a century later. The Three Stooges were an American vaudeville and comedy team active from 1922 until 1970. This time we get Larry, Curly and Moe, not on the stage but rather making a joke of America and its federal government. But this go-around won't be the least bit funny.

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47 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

In 2023, Twitter's revenue dropped to around $3.4 billion, down from $4.4 billion in 2022. In the first six months of 2024, advertisers spent about 24% less on the platform than in the same period in 2023.

Point taken. He really couldn't afford to hire a bunch of worthless people. Had he not taken drastic measures it would be a problem. The thing is our government isn't a billionaire that can do what it wants.

 

The jobs reports come out okay because much of it is government related jobs. Every job created by the federal government costs money and isn't accretive. 

 

We need to cut every position we can.

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1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

Point taken. He really couldn't afford to hire a bunch of worthless people. Had he not taken drastic measures it would be a problem. The thing is our government isn't a billionaire that can do what it wants.

 

The jobs reports come out okay because much of it is government related jobs. Every job created by the federal government costs money and isn't accretive. 

 

We need to cut every position we can.

 

It will be soon. Trump has promised Musk a cabinet position in charge of the economy. He will take the same wrecking ball to the government as he did to the economy. Trump is enamored by billionaires.

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4 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

It will be soon. Trump has promised Musk a cabinet position in charge of the economy. He will take the same wrecking ball to the government as he did to the economy. Trump is enamored by billionaires.

 

The thing is Twitter was losing tons of money before and with everything you said now basically breaks even. 

 

The government doesn't produce anything but more bureaucracy. We are going to be $50 trillion in debt 4 years if the trajectory doesn't change.. When somebody like Musk says we can cut the budget by 2 trillion a year I am all ears. 

 

This would have to be coupled by spending drastically less, that's where the devil enters the conversation. A balanced budget needs to be mandated under law.

 

only after that can we start to dig our way out. Otherwise we are going to go bankrupt slowly then suddenly.

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Just now, Cryingdick said:

 

The thing is Twitter was losing tons of money before and with everything you said now basically breaks even. 

 

The government doesn't produce anything but more bureaucracy. We are going to be $50 trillion in debt 4 years if the trajectory doesn't change.. When somebody like Musk says we can cut the budget by 2 trillion a year I am all ears. 

 

This would have to be coupled by spending drastically less, that's where the devil enters the conversation. A balanced budget needs to be mandated under law.

 

only after that can we start to dig our way out. Otherwise we are going to go bankrupt slowly then suddenly.

 

Will the world's smartest businessman ever get his money back on Twitter? Or did he take a loss just to turn it into a far right propaganda outlet?

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1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

Will the world's smartest businessman ever get his money back on Twitter? Or did he take a loss just to turn it into a far right propaganda outlet?

You spelt free speech wrong. (note, I am sure there were reasons other than the stated reason).

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4 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Will the world's smartest businessman ever get his money back on Twitter? Or did he take a loss just to turn it into a far right propaganda outlet?

 

I really don't care either way. I do care that people like Jamie Dimon are screaming from the rooftop we are on a path to fiscal disaster sooner than people are aware of.

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Just now, Cryingdick said:

 

I really don't care either way. I do care that people like Jamie Dimon are screaming from the rooftop we are on a path to fiscal disaster sooner than people

 

Protecting billionaire oligarchs and fossil fuel magnates just because they have money will take us to fiscal disaster much sooner.

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1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

Is hate speech and racism free speech now?

What the left classes as hate speech and racism yes, real hate speech and racism no, but there are laws in place for that, that must be adhered to. Discussion of immigration is not racism and having opposing views to the Left is not "Hate". censorship is unacceptable as is Lefties crying because people can counter their points without being banned.

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1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

Only if you are worse than Hitler. Can you define what free speech is and who should curate it, under your definition?

 

Anything that doesn't vilify minorities qualifies as free speech. Everything else is garbage, along with those who advocate for unbridled right to use hate speech.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_by_country

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Just now, mokwit said:

What the left classes as hate speech and racism yes, real hate speech and racism no, but there are laws in place for that, that must be adhered to. Discussion of immigration is not racism and having opposing views to the Left is not "Hate". censorship is unacceptable as is Lefties crying because people can counter their points without being banned.

 

Nobody is advocating against opinions against immigration. Haitians are eating the dogs is not free speech.

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2 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Protecting billionaire oligarchs and fossil fuel magnates just because they have money will take us to fiscal disaster much sooner.

If such people didn't exist the government wouldn't be funded. The government doesn't produce a single product. It exists solely on the largesse of those that do contribute to the GDP. 

 

Private citizens create 100% of the wealth ththe government squandewrs.

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Just now, Cryingdick said:

If such people didn't exist the government wouldn't be funded. The government doesn't produce a single product. It exists solely on the largesse of those that do contribute to the GDP. 

 

Private citizens create 100% of the wealth ththe government squandewrs.

 

Sure, but it doesn't have to be 1% private citizens generating and holding all the money in an ever decreasing number. Protecting the oligarchs will doom the planet.

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16 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

Nobody is advocating against opinions against immigration. Haitians are eating the dogs is not free speech.

Depends on whether it is true or not. If it is true people have a right to know so they can protect their pets, if it is a lie it is a racial slur. With free speech the truth can be established. The Left quoted the Mayor who is is making money from Haitian immigration as some kind of definitive answer. i have seen footage of a dog on a spit and of someone butchering a cat, the question is, is this from the time and place stated and does it represent the people stated.

 

I'm afraid people are advocating against opinions against immigration. In the UK the Left shut down all debate for years and to mention immigration policy is to have someone scream racism.

 

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2 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Sure, but it doesn't have to be 1% private citizens generating and holding all the money in an ever decreasing number. Protecting the oligarchs will doom the planet.

 

I thought Bidenomics was working so well that everybody was experiencing unprecedented levels of success and wealth?

 

The guys at the top of publicly traded companies certainly don't control it all. Tim Cook is worth maybe $5 billion give or take. The people like me that own a bit of APPL are worth more than $3 trillion collectively. These companies are much better instruments to enjoy a retirement than social security. 

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27 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

Will the world's smartest businessman ever get his money back on Twitter? Or did he take a loss just to turn it into a far right propaganda outlet?

I think you mean that Twitter is now an outlet that includes the opinions across ALL viewpoints and it no longer censors things that the Government, FBI etc don't like.

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3 minutes ago, rasg said:

I think you mean that Twitter is now an outlet that includes the opinions across ALL viewpoints and it no longer censors things that the Government, FBI etc don't like.

Remember how they fought tooth and nail to block him buying it? Then when they thought it would hurt him they enforced the contract and he went through with it? Now he owns it and we get to see their skidmarks. 

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36 minutes ago, rasg said:

I think you mean that Twitter is now an outlet that includes the opinions across ALL viewpoints and it no longer censors things that the Government, FBI etc don't like.

No x is censored if musk doesn’t like what you say,personally I think musk should stay in the electromechanical world he’s obviously brilliant there .with humans not so much.this particular thread is an excellent reminder of what a trump (administration) brings.absolute chaos wreckage across the healthcare system disabling our government wrecking the institutions that have served us well ,much to the delight of our enemies.

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2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

I loved it when they asked Elon what he would say to all of the federal workers that are now unemployed. His answer was "Just go do something else." lol 

 

He is absolutely right. He was able to get rid of about 80% of the employees at Twitter and it runs just fine. He sold off every piece of furniture, the espresso machines and whatever he could. 

 

If we are going to get our deficit down and the debt it will take this. 

Yeah it's running "just fine".🤣 Twitter (now X) is a page right out of Trump's book of business failures and awful decisions. At least Musk has many successful companies, unlike Trump.

 

Valuation

Twitter's (X) valuation is less than 25% of what Elon Musk paid for it. Investors have lost billions in value, including: 

 

Elon Musk: His investment of $33.5 billion is now worth $9.38 billion, a loss of $24.12 billion :cheesy:

 

The article below shows even worse numbers...

 

https://fortune.com/2024/09/30/x-value-drops-fidelity-investment-elon-musk-twitter-buyout/

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