Let The Fraud Begin

[theshu25]

7 minutes ago, Dan O said:

You're the one posting twisted information and when questioned you claim insults that don't exist because you have no substance. Then you gaslight because you can't respond effectively. You continually post misleading info so get a gripe on yourself and stop trying to divide. 

Yes,he is very similar in style to his cult leader in the crap he spews daily.

[Gecko123]

Are these MAGA people really good at playing the victim or what?

Edited 4 hours ago by Gecko123

[Dan O]

4 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump is a convicted felon and yet still supports him. Their names should be published for all to see.

 

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump cheated hundreds of different investors and lost in court, and yet still support him.

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump has still not paid his bills for the last campaign, stiffing many different cities for thousands of dollars...and yet still support him.

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump was convicted of stealing from a Children's Cancer Charity... (let that sink in a minute) and yet still supports him.

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump is a convicted sexual predator yet still support him.

 

No... it's not about politics any longer.

Sadly that doesn't even scratch the surface of his lies, cheating, fraud, bankruptcy, section 8 housing and rental fraud conviction history.

 

But as 1 trump follower tried to say " his bad actions are counter balanced by his accomplishments " yet couldn't name them. 

 

Its a a deceptive show on his part designed to separate and divide and many seeming smart people fall for the bs hook line and sinker.

[Yagoda]

42 minutes ago, Dan O said:

You're the one posting twisted information and when questioned you claim insults that don't exist because you have no substance. Then you gaslight because you can't respond effectively. You continually post misleading info so get a gripe on yourself and stop trying to divide. 

What did I post that was twisted. 

 

Notice how you focus on me vis a vis the substance.

[Dan O]

17 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What did I post that was twisted. 

 

Notice how you focus on me vis a vis the substance.

You blow up a singlar story of a 19 year old college kid voting that shouldn't have. He was so deceptive in casting his illegal vote that he went back the same day to retrieve it, most likely because someone told him it was wrong. It was so agreegious that you title your post "Let the Fraud Begin". Hahaha pathetic implication and then you automatically gaslight anyone that would comment about it with claims they will be insults directed at you. Well yeah if anyone comments its because you made the posting. Pretty passive aggressive action and typical of you and trumpettes trying to confuse and deceive people into believing there's a steal gonna happen. Your action speaks loudly of deceit but cry foul when you're called out on it. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Dan O

[bubblegum]

The only voter fraud in the last election came from republicans.

 

I expect insults etc.

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, Dan O said:

You blow up a singlar story of a 19 year old college kid voting that shouldn't have. He was so deceptive in casting his illegal vote that he went back the same day to retrieve it, most likely because someone told him it was wrong. It was so agreegious that you title your post "Let the Fraud Begin". Hahaha pathetic implication and then you automatically gaslight anyone that would comment about it with claims they will be insults directed at you. Well yeah if anyone comments its because you made the posting. Pretty passive aggressive action and typical of you and trumpettes trying to confuse and deceive people into believing there's a steal gonna happen. Your action speaks loudly of deceit but cry foul when you're called out on it. 

Blow up?

 

So posting the truth (which you admit) and an opinion for discussion is "blowing up". You dont like the title? Do you think that will be the only example of fraud in this election?

 

Then right into the childish name calling.

 

So predictable from your lot.

[riclag]

1 hour ago, Captain Monday said:

"The Myth of Voter Fraud : Extensive research reveals that fraud is very rare. Yet repeated, false allegations of fraud can make it harder for millions of eligible Americans to participate in elections."

 

 

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/ensure-every-american-can-vote/vote-suppression/myth-voter-fraud

You’ll be hard pressed to see the Brennancenter a leftest think tank side with Conservative talking points!

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, FolkGuitar said:

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump is a convicted felon and yet still supports him. Their names should be published for all to see.

 

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump cheated hundreds of different investors and lost in court, and yet still support him.

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump has still not paid his bills for the last campaign, stiffing many different cities for thousands of dollars...and yet still support him.

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump was convicted of stealing from a Children's Cancer Charity... (let that sink in a minute) and yet still supports him.

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump is a convicted sexual predator yet still support him.

 

No... it's not about politics any longer.

Whats it about? Want to make a list do you?

[riclag]

The Save Act would of solved this problem of Election integrity!

House passes bill requiring voters prove citizenship in federal elections.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-passes-bill-requiring-voters-prove-citizenship-federal-elections

[Dan O]

Just now, Yagoda said:

Blow up?

 

So posting the truth (which you admit) and an opinion for discussion is "blowing up". You dont like the title? Do you think that will be the only example of fraud in this election?

 

Then right into the childish name calling.

 

So predictable from your lot.

Hahaha if you don't want people replying to your posting then its simple, don't post on a publicly open forum. You don't get to pick and choose who replies or what they say.

 

Again you launch into the fraud allegation thats gonna happen like its overwhelming to a degree that it will change the outcome of the election. Or maybe closer to the truth crying wolf so if Trump loses you can blame it on some nefarious conspiracy and not that he's a verified POS?

 

 

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Hahaha if you don't want people replying to your posting then its simple, don't post on a publicly open forum. You don't get to pick and choose who replies or what they say.

 

Again you launch into the fraud allegation thats gonna happen like its overwhelming to a degree that it will change the outcome of the election. Or maybe closer to the truth crying wolf so if Trump loses you can blame it on some nefarious conspiracy and not that he's a verified POS?

 

 

I dont care who replies, not the silly and childish replies, its how you have your fun. Its predictable.

 

How do you know whether fraud will change the outcome of the election?

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

He will claim he didnt know, although if I was his lawyer, Id have him naming names if there were any. Anyone think that he shouldnt be locked up? My opinion is that it should be a Federal Felony with a harsh sentence to discourage such actions, assuming guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/30/chinese-university-of-michigan-college-student-voted-presidential-election-michigan-china-benson/75936701007/

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/11/01/noncitizen-voting-election-security-voter-fraud/75963501007/

 

Expect the usual: Insults tossed towards me, insults tossed towards Trump, insults tossed  towards the opinion writer, minimization, spin, whateverism, insults towards the US, deflection, Putin and so on..............

Massive voter fraud!

 

Oh, wait, it's one guy.

 

Never mind.

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, FolkGuitar said:

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump is a convicted felon and yet still supports him. Their names should be published for all to see.

 

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump cheated hundreds of different investors and lost in court, and yet still support him.

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump has still not paid his bills for the last campaign, stiffing many different cities for thousands of dollars...and yet still support him.

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump was convicted of stealing from a Children's Cancer Charity... (let that sink in a minute) and yet still supports him.

It's a shame that AN doesn't name names for those who laugh at the fact that Trump is a convicted sexual predator yet still support him.

 

No... it's not about politics any longer.

i laugh at these comments, you can see my name.. and what are you going to do?

[Dan O]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont care who replies, not the silly and childish replies, its how you have your fun. Its predictable.

 

How do you know whether fraud will change the outcome of the election?

Calling out bs and attempts to twist facts to suit your agenda is as predictable as the crap you post and then the whining you do when called out for it.  Claims of voter fraud have occurred for years without any proof of significant impact other than a talking point just in case you lose. But you go with that non-issue but stop whining.

[Danderman123]

It's amazing to me how many foreigners here are complaining about election fraud, but they don't know anything about US elections.

 

I don't claim to know how foreign elections are conducted and I don't complain about them.

 

I've been a poll watcher, been at election central when they count the votes, monitored precinct lists, plus all the usual get out the vote activities. 

 

Conversely, the foreigners get sent a talking point and now they are election experts.

Edited 3 hours ago by Danderman123

[riclag]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

He will claim he didnt know, although if I was his lawyer, Id have him naming names if there were any. Anyone think that he shouldnt be locked up? My opinion is that it should be a Federal Felony with a harsh sentence to discourage such actions, assuming guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/30/chinese-university-of-michigan-college-student-voted-presidential-election-michigan-china-benson/75936701007/

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/11/01/noncitizen-voting-election-security-voter-fraud/75963501007/

 

Expect the usual: Insults tossed towards me, insults tossed towards Trump, insults tossed  towards the opinion writer, minimization, spin, whateverism, insults towards the US, deflection, Putin and so on..............

From your USA source

 

“It should be a bipartisan aim to ensure our elections are only for U.S. citizens.

That’s not controversial, right? 

Yet, by continually eschewing tougher voter ID requirements, Democrats and their allies are hurting their own cause”.

 

The circular reporting of the crisis in Google searches be like A gathering of rabid dogs, all repeating the dem propaganda, but but theres no proof of widespread fraud! Why hide thousands?

 

 

“Court orders Arizona to release list of voters affected by registration glitch; Sec. of State plans appeal”.

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/court-orders-arizona-release-list-voters-affected-registration-glitch-sec-state-plans-appeal

 

Edited 3 hours ago by riclag

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Massive voter fraud!

 

Oh, wait, it's one guy.

 

Never mind.

Another of my predictions coming true, minimization.

[Dan O]

7 minutes ago, riclag said:

From your USA source

 

“It should be a bipartisan aim to ensure our elections are only for U.S. citizens.

That’s not controversial, right? 

Yet, by continually eschewing tougher voter ID requirements, Democrats and their allies are hurting their own cause”.

 

The circular reporting of the crisis in Google searches be like A gathering of rabid dogs, all repeating the dem propaganda, but but theres no proof of widespread fraud! Why hide thousands?

 

 

“Court orders Arizona to release list of voters affected by registration glitch; Sec. of State plans appeal”.

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/court-orders-arizona-release-list-voters-affected-registration-glitch-sec-state-plans-appeal

 

You should have stopped your post at it should be bipartisan effort as thats actually a valid position to take.

 

Republicans are overtly focused on proving something is overly impactful when its not, while at the same time attempting to block valid voters from participating. Haven't heard any of you defend the GOP's court cases trying to block overseas citizens and military from voting in election. They have cases in 3 states current with others pending. Crickets from Republicans on this topic. 

[Dan O]

39 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Another of my predictions coming true, minimization.

So you predicted 1 voter would be illegal ? I'll give you credit on that.  You are better than the Amazing Kreskin at this. Any lottery predictions?

[Captain Monday]

51 minutes ago, riclag said:

From your USA source

 

“It should be a bipartisan aim to ensure our elections are only for U.S. citizens.

That’s not controversial, right? 
 

「Of course not.  But voter id is a solution in search of a problem. There is nothing wrong with our election system.

 

But once this one is over let’s put a priority on bi-partisan legislation to amend the constitution and require  that every single voter re-register with proof of citizenship. And before any ballots are ever issued again show a passport/passport card/State id that shows citizenship or even better, a National ID card that could be provided free to every US citizen. 
 

Will your side finally shut up already ?

Nope. Never will happen because that would deny the GOP their quadrennial moan fest and serve as more proof they have nothing to offer the American people but lies and gaslighting.  」

1 hour ago, riclag said:

You’ll be hard pressed to see the Brennancenter a leftest think tank side with Conservative talking points!

「You are so predictable. When a right-winger has no valid critique of the facts, attack the source.

 

So, Once again. “Voter fraud” is not a “conservative talking point”. It is nothing more than the tired, discredited right-wing trope to mask GOP voter suppression tactics」」

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Captain Monday

[Walker88]

Please folks, have some compassion...the felonistas are the most gentle little snowflakes the world has ever seen.

 

EVERYTHING gets them weepy and running for their coloring books and buckets of KFC Extra Crispy. Without their mommies and their security blankets, they simply would shrivel up and fade away. Like the felon himself: flabby, weak, girlymen, unable to take even the slightest bit of criticism, believing it's UNFAIR that they must compete with women, with Blacks, with Hispanics, even with college-educated white guys.

 

Felonistas hate democracy, For them it's Heads we win, tails it's FRAUD!

 

And don't even get them started on Hugo Chavez, posthumous code writer and hacker of Dominion voting machines via Italian satellites!

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, Dan O said:

So you predicted 1 voter would be illegal ? I'll give you credit on that.  You are better than the Amazing Kreskin at this. Any lottery predictions?

Yep, ad hominems. You guys have to vary your script lol

[TroubleandGrumpy]

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

He will claim he didnt know, although if I was his lawyer, Id have him naming names if there were any. Anyone think that he shouldnt be locked up? My opinion is that it should be a Federal Felony with a harsh sentence to discourage such actions, assuming guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/30/chinese-university-of-michigan-college-student-voted-presidential-election-michigan-china-benson/75936701007/

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/11/01/noncitizen-voting-election-security-voter-fraud/75963501007/

 

Expect the usual: Insults tossed towards me, insults tossed towards Trump, insults tossed  towards the opinion writer, minimization, spin, whateverism, insults towards the US, deflection, Putin and so on..............

I see you are very correct on both counts.  Firstly, there was blatant fraud in 2020, but just like OJ they got away with it because there was no absolute evidence to prove otherwise - being 'not guilty' does not mean they did not do it.  Secondly, yes the insults and soin etc. did occur and is still occuring. 

 

Message to the lefty liberals - Yes Biden was elected POTUS in 2020 - but was it completely fair and all above board - not likely. I recall Bush got elected over Gore in 2000, because of the vote recount in Florida being stopped by SCOTUS - very dubious too.

 

When Trump and GOP win, they will be creating a 'Federal Election Commission/Investigation' and they will be ripping into the details of the 2020 election. Not to over-turn the result - but to expose the result, and to put in place changes so that voter fraud is no longer so easy.  Voter ID will be a big one - only Democrats oppose that, because they do know to truth.  Likewise, mailing ballots will also be banned, except for exceptional situations (overseas etc.) - People can vote early or vote on the day - no more random boxes of ballots arriving by mail.  Mail voting is strictly controlled in other countries or it is banned - USA must change those rules that allow mailed-in ballots. 

[bubblegum]

1 minute ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Firstly, there was blatant fraud in 2020, but just like OJ they got away with it because there was no absolute evidence to prove otherwise - being 'not guilty' does not mean they did not do it.

If you read this again would you agree it makes no sense at all? 

 

If there was blatant fraud it would be easy to prove no?

[Yagoda]

8 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

If you read this again would you agree it makes no sense at all? 

 

If there was blatant fraud it would be easy to prove no?

Couldnt prove OJ could they

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

Calling out bs and attempts to twist facts to suit your agenda is as predictable as the crap you post and then the whining you do when called out for it.  Claims of voter fraud have occurred for years without any proof of significant impact other than a talking point just in case you lose. But you go with that non-issue but stop whining.

Illinois for Kennedy?

[Dan O]

9 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I see you are very correct on both counts.  Firstly, there was blatant fraud in 2020, but just like OJ they got away with it because there was no absolute evidence to prove otherwise - being 'not guilty' does not mean they did not do it.  Secondly, yes the insults and soin etc. did occur and is still occuring. 

 

Message to the lefty liberals - Yes Biden was elected POTUS in 2020 - but was it completely fair and all above board - not likely. I recall Bush got elected over Gore in 2000, because of the vote recount in Florida being stopped by SCOTUS - very dubious too.

 

When Trump and GOP win, they will be creating a 'Federal Election Commission/Investigation' and they will be ripping into the details of the 2020 election. Not to over-turn the result - but to expose the result, and to put in place changes so that voter fraud is no longer so easy.  Voter ID will be a big one - only Democrats oppose that, because they do know to truth.  Likewise, mailing ballots will also be banned, except for exceptional situations (overseas etc.) - People can vote early or vote on the day - no more random boxes of ballots arriving by mail.  Mail voting is strictly controlled in other countries or it is banned - USA must change those rules that allow mailed-in ballots. 

You are truly delusional.  If by  fraud in 2020 you mean Trump lost the vote then yeah. Only fraud found anywhere is Trump himself.  Their was no and is no proof of anything remotely resembling voter fraud or tampering on any scale that would imply Trump was a winner. I reference his countless lawsuits in multiple states and not winning one case. Its statistically impossible to have fraud on a scale large enough to win or lose an election and it not being detected during his countless lawsuits. You can't explain your rationale in any coherent manner that supports your claims. You are either too ignorant or refuse to acknowledge the facts and that is scary. Are you even a US citizen?

[Dan O]

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Illinois for Kennedy?

If your gonna comment you should try speaking in complete sentences. If you reference something in this century it would be helpful to your lack of facts

[EVENKEEL]

4 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

It's not a matter of Politics.  It's a matter of morals. If you support a racist... If you support a convicted felon... If you support a misogynist... If you support a liar... a man who publically mocks the handicapped on TV for all to see...

... they you are no better than he.

 

Yep, he's an ass alright. Go Trump.....