Is Trump going down?

[Mazungu]

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Funny how we haven't seen any positives coming from the blue blinkered side on here isn't it. It's all negatives and vitriol. Haven't seen anything about how the economy can be turned around? How inflation can be brought down? How the border problem will be dealt with? 

The positives are out there if you look outside of FOX. And this comes from The Wall Street Journal -- a right-wing newspaper. 

 

"The Next President Inherits a Remarkable Economy." "Whoever wins the White House next week will take office with no shortage of challenges, but at least one huge asset: an economy that is putting its peers to shame. With another solid performance in the third quarter, the U.S. has grown 2.7% over the past year. It is outrunning every other major developed economy, not to mention its own historical growth rate."

 

https://www.wsj.com/economy/the-next-president-inherits-a-remarkable-economy-7be2d059

[HonestQuietTom]

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Did you see the latest job numbers?

Hurricanes and strikes.

 

https://thehill.com/business/4965531-jobs-report-october-12000-election-harris-trump/

[pattayasan]

Former President Donald Trump’s social media company outsourced jobs to workers in Mexico even as Trump publicly railed against outsourcing on the campaign trail and threatened heavy tariffs on companies that send jobs south of the border.

The firm’s use of workers in Mexico was confirmed by a spokesperson for Trump Media, which operates the Truth Social platform.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-media-outsourced-jobs-to-mexico-as-trump-pushed-america-first/

[dinsdale]

Just now, Mazungu said:

The positives are out there if you look outside of FOX. And this comes from The Wall Street Journal -- a right-wing newspaper. 

 

"The Next President Inherits a Remarkable Economy." "Whoever wins the White House next week will take office with no shortage of challenges, but at least one huge asset: an economy that is putting its peers to shame. With another solid performance in the third quarter, the U.S. has grown 2.7% over the past year. It is outrunning every other major developed economy, not to mention its own historical growth rate."

 

https://www.wsj.com/economy/the-next-president-inherits-a-remarkable-economy-7be2d059

I look outside Fox as you say and all I see are attacks on Trump. Harris' campaign is full on negative and fully pushed by the legacy media. It might work or it might backfire. Time will tell.

[HonestQuietTom]

9 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I look outside Fox as you say and all I see are attacks on Trump. Harris' campaign is full on negative and fully pushed by the legacy media. It might work or it might backfire. Time will tell.

And Trump's campaign is full of positives about Harris?

 

It might?

No time needed.

It's over!

Harris is off to the Whitehouse.

Trump is off to bankruptcy and jail.

Done and dusted.

Edited November 3 by HonestQuietTom

[frank83628]

9 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Did you see the latest job numbers?

12000 something instead of 120k expected 

[frank83628]

8 minutes ago, Mazungu said:

The positives are out there if you look outside of FOX. And this comes from The Wall Street Journal -- a right-wing newspaper. 

 

"The Next President Inherits a Remarkable Economy." "Whoever wins the White House next week will take office with no shortage of challenges, but at least one huge asset: an economy that is putting its peers to shame. With another solid performance in the third quarter, the U.S. has grown 2.7% over the past year. It is outrunning every other major developed economy, not to mention its own historical growth rate."

 

https://www.wsj.com/economy/the-next-president-inherits-a-remarkable-economy-7be2d059

BS

[pattayasan]

Trump thinks winning the popular vote shouldn't be necessary.

 

Former President Trump argued that Republicans winning the popular vote is “tough” because of Democratic strength in certain strongholds ahead of Election Day on Tuesday. 

Trump said at a rally in Virginia that votes need to turn out on Tuesday because he wants to win “everything,” including the popular vote. But he said states like California make winning the popular vote tough. 

“When you have New York, Illinois and California, you have automatically, it’s like ridiculous, automatically goes to a Democrat, it’s tough to win the popular vote because they’re three big states,” he said. 

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4967885-trump-republicans-popular-vote/

[frank83628]

6 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

Former President Donald Trump’s social media company outsourced jobs to workers in Mexico even as Trump publicly railed against outsourcing on the campaign trail and threatened heavy tariffs on companies that send jobs south of the border.

The firm’s use of workers in Mexico was confirmed by a spokesperson for Trump Media, which operates the Truth Social platform.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-media-outsourced-jobs-to-mexico-as-trump-pushed-america-first/

Trumps tariff were on vehicle manufacturing, not IT guys.. so stop posting misinformation.

[bubblegum]

Just now, frank83628 said:

Trumps tariff were on vehicle manufacturing, not IT guys.. so stop posting misinformation.

Outsourcing is outsourcing. You find an excuse for everything Frank you must be a busy man defending your Trump. 

[pattayasan]

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Trumps tariff were on vehicle manufacturing, not IT guys.. so stop posting misinformation.

 

You are incorrect.

 

The Offshoring of U.S. Jobs Increased on Trump’s Watch

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2020-10-22/supply-chains-latest-the-hard-data-on-trump-s-offshoring-record

 

impose punishing tariffs on any business that moves jobs or manufacturing overseas.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/05/trump-economy-00177543?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Edited November 3 by pattayasan

[pattayasan]

A majority of U.S. adults say former President Trump cares more about the needs and problems of wealthy Americans than Vice President Harris, a new survey revealed.

The recent YouGov poll shows that nearly two-thirds of U.S. adults, 63 percent, say Trump cares about the needs of the rich compared to 25 percent who said the same of Harris.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4967273-donald-trump-kamala-harris-wealthy-americans-survey/

 

[JensenZ]

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Sort of but Sky News is pretty right leaning. The thing is they, like Fox, are way outnumbered by the legacy media.

Whatever you may think of Sky News, it's not an American broadcast and you see video footage on there that never makes the US mainstream media or even fringe media. Uncut video footage doesn't lie.

[frank83628]

10 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Outsourcing is outsourcing. You find an excuse for everything Frank you must be a busy man defending your Trump. 

Not when put in the correct context. Trump was referring to manufacturing, I don't see any thing backing up the aricles claims made against trumps media company 

[pattayasan]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Not when put in the correct context. Trump was referring to manufacturing, I don't see any thing backing up the aricles claims made against trumps media company 

 

So outsourcing tech is all good then? If you read the link you would see it was confirmed by his company.

Edited November 3 by pattayasan

[JensenZ]

20 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

A majority of U.S. adults say former President Trump cares more about the needs and problems of wealthy Americans than Vice President Harris, a new survey revealed.

The recent YouGov poll shows that nearly two-thirds of U.S. adults, 63 percent, say Trump cares about the needs of the rich compared to 25 percent who said the same of Harris.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4967273-donald-trump-kamala-harris-wealthy-americans-survey/

 

Let's have a closer look at this ridiculous poll asking stupid questions of 1,126 respondents.

 

(yeah, 1126 web-based interviews suggesting "A majority of US adults say....)

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Interviewing Dates October 10 - 14, 2024 Target population U.S. citizens, aged 18 and over.

 

Sampling method Respondents were selected from YouGov’s opt-in panel to be representative of adult U.S. citizens.

 

Weighting The sample was weighted according to gender, age, race, education, 2020 election turnout and Presidential vote, baseline party identification, and current voter registration status. Demographic weighting targets come from the 2019 American Community Survey. Baseline party identification is the respondent’s most recent answer given prior to November 1, 2022, and is weighted to the estimated distribution at that time (33% Democratic, 31% Republican). The weights range from 0.052 to 5.208, with a mean of one and a standard deviation of 0.821.

 

Number of respondents 1126

 

Margin of error ± 3.8% (adjusted for weighting)

 

Survey mode Web-based interviews

 

Questions not reported 98 questions not reported.

 

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[Yagoda]

5 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Along with illegals, non-citizens, dead people, out of state people......8.2 million of them?

 

 

Im glad you agree with those who think that illegals etc vote in our elections. You are coming around.

[HonestQuietTom]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Im glad you agree with those who think that illegals etc vote in our elections. You are coming around.

What is with the complete lack of respect for the truth?

It really is a cult.

Absolute madness.

 

After the 2016 election, the Brennan Center for Justice, which advocates for voting rights, surveyed local election officials in 42 jurisdictions with high immigrant populations and found just 30 cases of suspected noncitizens voting out of 23.5 million votes cast, or 0.0001%.

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/12/nx-s1-5147789/voting-election-2024-noncitizen-fact-check-trump

[bubblegum]

7 minutes ago, HonestQuietTom said:

What is with the complete lack of respect for the truth?

It really is a cult.

Absolute madness.

 

After the 2016 election, the Brennan Center for Justice, which advocates for voting rights, surveyed local election officials in 42 jurisdictions with high immigrant populations and found just 30 cases of suspected noncitizens voting out of 23.5 million votes cast, or 0.0001%.

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/12/nx-s1-5147789/voting-election-2024-noncitizen-fact-check-trump

Like Trump they live in a self created bubble. When it bursts there will waterfalls of tears.

[Inderpland]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

BS

Wow, another powerful and fact-filled rebuttal from our resident Putin lover!

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Well cowboy I did post a reply to this, but apparently it infringed the AN rules, so here is a précis for you without infringing those rules – –

1). Trump lied about building the wall and making Mexico pay for it because even though a small portion of it was built, it was paid for by the US taxpayer, so another lie.

 

2). He lied about being involved in a helicopter crash landing, which in fact never happened and you can look that up, and it was an outright lie.

 

3). Trump was ordered to pay $2.1 million to the charities from which he stole their funds for his own personal use. Plenty of information available about that, and he actually pleaded guilty to this felony .

 

4). He lied about having sex with Stormy Daniels.

 

5). There are currently 34 felony cases pending against this compulsive liar, as well as a few other cases such as one where he took confidential documents from the White House and hid/stored them in Mar a Largo and lied that he had returned them all, when he hadn't stopped.

 

6). Trump University was another scam which he was convicted of and had to repay huge amounts of money because of this.

 

7).Historian Douglas Brinkley stated that U.S. presidents have occasionally "lied or misled the country," but none were a "serial liar" like Trump. Donnel Stern, writing in Psychoanalytic Dialogues in 2019, declared: "We expect politicians to stretch the truth. But Trump is a whole different animal," because Trump "lies as a policy", and "will say anything" to satisfy his supporters or himself.

 

8). Trump said he wrote the book, "The Art of the Deal" when in fact he didn't as it was ghostwritten by journalist Tony Schwartz.

 

9). Trump claimed that at the time of the September 11 world trade Centre attack that he had a view from his apartment which was specifically aimed at the World Trade Centre, and he added that he watched those people jump. Trump lived in Trump Tower more than 4 miles away and he did not respond to enquiries about how it was possible for him to see people jumping from that far away.

 

10). Trump also stated that he saw Muslims clapping at the world trade Centre attack, and that has been disputed by other people who were there.

 

I could go on for many more pages, but more information is available if one cares to look for it.

 

Oh and before I forget, trump lied about having sex with Stormy Daniels and he can't help himself because he is a compulsive liar and very likely has some sort of mental disorder.

 

So, Cowboy, I will ask, "what is wrong with you"?????????

 

PS. A few links for you to peruse:- 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/08/politics/trump-helicopter-story-willie-brown/index.html

 

Donald Trump told a record number of lies while in office, and ended his term with an unprecedent attack on democracy carried out by his supporters.

A Legacy of Lies: Examining Donald Trump’s Record-Breaking Dishonesty

 

https://cedar.wwu.edu/wwu_honors/486/

Analysis: Donald Trump’s campaign of relentless lying

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/01/politics/analysis-donald-trumps-campaign-of-relentless-lying/index.html

 

162 lies and distortions in a news conference. NPR fact-checks former President Trump

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/11/nx-s1-5070566/trump-news-conference

 

I'm getting a subtle "Trump tells lies" undertone to your comment, but does it actually address anything I said in my comment?

[CharlieKo]

9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Did you ever read Shakespeare? You need to read between the lines.

 

It isn't about Trump. It's about the entire electoral process. Trump is basically telling you, if you learn to read between the lines, that the entire electoral process is a SCAM. Because democracy doesn't exist. 

 

If it did, they wouldn't be acting so crazy. There might be 1000 candidates to choose from in a real democracy and they would need to work really really really hard to impress you.

 

But because it's a scam and the country is an oligarchy, they can crack jokes and act stupid all day long.

 

Because they already own the joint,

 

Me, I need to work for a living. People who own the joint can afford to act stupid all day long. 

 

Don't waste your time voting. Go get a soapy massage instead. 

 

Well said. So very very true. 

[Will B Good]

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Sorry. I won't waste my time reading the ultra left thedailybeastbeast. No point. It's all biased commentary and not true neutral journalism.

 

Wasn't it you about an hour ago, complaining bitterly about 'the left' not reading any material unless it was left leaning?

 

You don't think you are being a teeny weeny bit hypocritical now?

[Inderpland]

1 hour ago, JensenZ said:

Whatever you may think of Sky News, it's not an American broadcast and you see video footage on there that never makes the US mainstream media or even fringe media. Uncut video footage doesn't lie.

What a weird statement. I've seen uncut video footage of Bigfoot, aliens and ghosts. Does that make them real?

[metisdead]

A post with unsubstantiated facts has been removed.

 

Some troll posts and replies have been removed.  

[JensenZ]

30 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

What a weird statement. I've seen uncut video footage of Bigfoot, aliens and ghosts. Does that make them real?

It's your statement that is weird. Show me some uncut video footage of Bigfoot, aliens and ghosts and we can compare notes.

 

I'm talking about uncut video footage of hundreds of Biden's gaffes, just for starters. You don't see most of it on news networks in the US.

[it is what it is]

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I see the haters are tossing homosexuality accusations like an insult. They must think Homosexuality is a mental illness.

 

your train of thought and words

[Will B Good]

9 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

It's your statement that is weird. Show me some uncut video footage of Bigfoot, aliens and ghosts and we can compare notes.

 

I'm talking about uncut video footage of hundreds of Biden's gaffes, just for starters. You don't see most of it on news networks in the US.

 

 

Presumably you have access to them....why not post your top ten on here?

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, HonestQuietTom said:

Hurricanes and strikes.

 

https://thehill.com/business/4965531-jobs-report-october-12000-election-harris-trump/

Well if The Hill says so it must be true. Nothing to do with anything else. All's fine.

[HonestQuietTom]

6 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Well if The Hill says so it must be true. Nothing to do with anything else. All's fine.

Yes The Hill says so.

 

So does:

 

USA Today

NBC News

Financial Times

Reuters

Bloomberg

Business Insider

Etc. etc. etc.

 

Edited November 3 by HonestQuietTom