So I was right about abortion - Roe v Wade is dead

[theblether]

Once again, I'm comfortable with abortion law in the UK ( I'm British ). This thread is not about abortion - its about electoral reality. 

 

The time of Roe v Wade being an election issue is over. This was the first Presidential election since it was sent back to state legislature, and the pro-choice party lost in a landslide. 

 

Including the popular vote. 

 

Three years ago no one would have believed you. 

 

Apparently seven out of ten abortion related bills passed at state level during this election. 

 

Abortion is legal in every state. 

 

There will be more adjustments to abortion law during the midterms. By 2028 this issue will be effectively gone from national politics. 

 

And the new mantra against the few who will continue to talk about it will be - "you've got access to abortion already." 

 

Roe v Wade is finished. 

[theblether]

The strange thing is - both Democrats and Republicans will miss the issue at national level. It was a masthead issue. And now it's gone. 

 

Most US states will settle for European style abortion access. There will be bitter local arguments over the issue but that's fine, because at the end of the day. 

 

All politics are local. 

[KhunLA]

18 minutes ago, theblether said:

Abortion is legal in every state. 

Not exactly ...

... Kentucky as one example, unless life of mother at risk.

 

 

Agree with you, it's not a national election issue, and just a state issue, where is should be.

 

Some states, 9 or 13, are very restrictive, but yes, abortions are readily available in the USA.  Have and will be for a long time.

 

Shouldn't even be mentioned at federal level.  Just one distraction, of many 

[theblether]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Not exactly ...

... Kentucky as one example, unless life of mother at risk.

 

 

Agree with you, it's not a national election issue, and just a state issue, where is should be.

 

Some states, 9 or 13, are very restrictive, but yes, abortions are readily available in the USA.  Have and will be for a long time.

 

Shouldn't even be mentioned at federal level.  Just one distraction, of many 

 

There are exceptions to the Kentucky law - I am of the opinion its way too restrictive 

 

If you’re in Kentucky, you may need to travel out of Kentucky to get an abortion unless you qualify for an exception. Exceptions are very limited and include:

• To save the pregnant person's life
• To prevent serious risk to the pregnant person's physical health.

You can leave Kentucky and get an abortion out of state.

[theblether]

The problem for the Democrats is that the Republicans have four years to eradicate this Democrat totem pole. Nebraska 12 week rule is a good example. 

[Sandboxer]

Abrakadabra, FETUS DELETUS~

[John Drake]

5 hours ago, theblether said:

Once again, I'm comfortable with abortion law in the UK ( I'm British ). This thread is not about abortion - its about electoral reality. 

 

The time of Roe v Wade being an election issue is over. This was the first Presidential election since it was sent back to state legislature, and the pro-choice party lost in a landslide. 

 

Including the popular vote. 

 

Three years ago no one would have believed you. 

 

Apparently seven out of ten abortion related bills passed at state level during this election. 

 

Abortion is legal in every state. 

 

There will be more adjustments to abortion law during the midterms. By 2028 this issue will be effectively gone from national politics. 

 

And the new mantra against the few who will continue to talk about it will be - "you've got access to abortion already." 

 

Roe v Wade is finished. 

 

Your forgetting that the anti-abortion zealots want a federal ban on abortion. They will keep this topic going. Deciding at the state level isn't good enough for them. It would serve them right if they lost everything because they demand complete surrender.

[JonnyF]

Harris made a big deal of this because it's one issue she can understand. Economics?  not so much.

 

Average Americans care about feeding and schooling their children, not how late they can abort them.  Maybe the NYC "sex in the city" watching progressive socialites care more? But not enough of them obviously.

 

The Dems are in a complete mess. Woke, Liberal and totally out of touch. Good riddance to them. And those who gaslight on their behalf. 

 

Someone call an uber for Harris. The discount code is DEI.

[theblether]

48 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Your forgetting that the anti-abortion zealots want a federal ban on abortion. They will keep this topic going. Deciding at the state level isn't good enough for them. It would serve them right if they lost everything because they demand complete surrender.

 

There's zealots on both sides, the difference is that as long as Roe v Wade was in the mix, centrist Republicans who were outraged about judicial ( Supreme Court ) overreach amplified their zealots. Centrist Republicans have now walked off the battlefield. 

 

And contrary to expectations, many red states now have European style laws on the book.

 

The lesson for Democrats is to never again select nominees by coronation. They tried it with Hillary and saw three SCOTUS seats filled, and now they've tried it with Harris and wait till you see the number of thirty-year old conservatives nominated to fill judge vacancies in the next four years 🤣🤣🤣

[jas007]

In the grand scheme of things, it's not a major issue.  Anyone who wants an abortion can obtain one.