Why are many people so partisan?

[Yellowtail]

27 minutes ago, candide said:

One more baseless assertion. Who  in the left, is claiming big pharma are pure as the driven snow? You are making it up! 😀

David Andeman

27 minutes ago, candide said:

 

NB It's not the left which blocked a cap of $35 on insulin (it's $12 in Canada), it's the GOP.

The $35 cap on a single medication was just a gimmick. 

 

[candide]

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

David Andeman

The $35 cap on a single medication was just a gimmick. 

 

David Andeman. Do you have proof or is it just one more baseless assertion?

Is he representing "the left", now? 😀

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, candide said:

David Andeman. Do you have proof or is it just one more baseless assertion?

Is he representing "the left", now? 😀

No, he is just a typical leftist. You asked who, I gave you a name.  😀 😀

[candide]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I asked AI:

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/why-is-medication-a-lot-more-e-FGUn.GNjSOSFF0B.N6Fhag#0

 

I use this AI because it shows all the sources where the information come from. They are listed in above link.

 

"In summary, the combination of unregulated pricing, a fragmented healthcare system, profit-driven motives of pharmaceutical companies, the influence of PBMs, and strategic legal maneuvers all contribute to the significantly higher costs of medications in the United States compared to other countries."

 

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

100% agree Mr AI.  I only wonder what is the "main" reason for the 7-10x price difference compared to some European countries.

A fact addition to the discussion.

The global insulin market is dominated by three firms: Novo Nordisk, Elie Lily and Sanofi, and it's also the case in the U.S. The same brands are sold at different prices in the U.S. and elsewhere.

 

On top of it, the leader Novo Nordisk is Danish, and the third one, Sanofi, is French.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK278938/table/insulin-pharmacology.T.insulins_commerci/

 

https://academic.oup.com/jlb/article/7/1/lsaa061/5918811

[candide]

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, he is just a typical leftist. You asked who, I gave you a name.  😀 😀

So he's not the left and, as usual, you provide no proof he claimed big pharma are pure as the driven snow.

😀

[Dcheech]

50 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

Remember, historically it has always been the left that was skeptical of big pharma, and the military industirial machine, but now that the left has taken them over, they're pure as the driven snow. 

 

Big Pharma gives money to both parties. They juice both democrats and republicans, That said they have always given more  money to Republicans. FACT. Republicans in tune have helped them more than the Dems ever have . Exactly the same with military industries. They have always given more money to Republicans than dems. NOTE - both Musk and Trump recently shilling for Boeing, blaming problems on DEI. Boeing has been digging there own grave for 22 years before DEI existed.

'Taken over by the left' is pure fake news spew so popular with MAGA. Shout it loud and constantly, drown out any discussion, that's the right wings game plan for decades now. 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Dcheech said:

 

Big Pharma gives money to both parties. They juice both democrats and republicans, That said they have always given more  money to Republicans. FACT. Republicans in tune have helped them more than the Dems ever have . Exactly the same with military industries. They have always given more money to Republicans than dems. NOTE - both Musk and Trump recently shilling for Boeing, blaming problems on DEI. Boeing has been digging there own grave for 22 years before DEI existed.

'Taken over by the left' is pure fake news spew so popular with MAGA. Shout it loud and constantly, drown out any discussion, that's the right wings game plan for decades now. 

Historically given more to Republicans, but I think that has changed in the last ten years. 

 

Boeing Dismantles DEI Team as Pressure Builds on New CEO (1)

[atpeace]

4 minutes ago, Dcheech said:

 

That said they have always given more  money to Republicans. FACT.

This not accurate.  Historically they have given more to Republicans but that has flipped drastically since 2020 and Covid.  Democrats now receive the bulk of the money.  Hence the push by democrats to push drugs on the American public.  Not saying that Republicans wouldn't do the same but stating the facts 🙂

[AlexRich]

18 hours ago, atpeace said:

This is a bad thing?  That is the problem with some democrats. Individuals should be held accountable for their actions.  99% of obese people should not be supported financially with tax dollars for hospital visits or insulin.  They should pay for their choices with their own money in higher insurance premiums or cash out of pocket. 

 

Why is this so hard for some to understand.

Kind of misses the point, surely? Which was that many people have voted for a Government that might do great harm to something that it’s important to them. It was one example of many, to make a point.