UK Pensioners in Thailand Face New Scrutiny Over Pension Fraud

[jori123]

transam

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Posted May 12, 2020

  On 5/12/2020 at 3:52 AM, BritManToo said:

Post a photo of the letter or it didn't happen.

You can call me a liar if you like, you have my permission this one time as you know all the facts out there....????

 

My chum was caught out being overpaid, he paid the extra back, his pension was not stopped but it was reduced to the time he came to LOS...That is fact....????       Was sickness   not OAP

 

 

"You can call me a liar if you like, you have my permission this one time"....how about for all time?

Edited 19 hours ago by jori123

[delgarcon]

On 11/15/2024 at 6:39 PM, proton said:

 

 

Looks like a London Office!

Newcastle I think.

[transam]

13 hours ago, jori123 said:

"think" "probably" "supposedly" are words foremost in your vocabulary

"game up"?  have you read the finance bill? Nothing there  about pensioners there in TH or anywhere else,  oh dear!

"sleep at night"? would give me suicidal thoughts at losing all that money

 There is no law to follow, not unlawful to receive unfrozen pension in TH

 

  Anyway as I have expressed before you do indeed interfere with my morning toilet, please stop your illogical ranting

             Thank You  (unfrozen in TH)

You would be suicidal losing ALL THAT money...............🤣

Blimey, you must be on the bread line...........😱................😂

[transam]

13 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Where is the link to the UK Government website to substantiate your claims regarding UK State Pensions, not benifits, being directly or indirectly encompased by this so called law?

 

Please also state where is the link to the UK Government website to substantiate your claims regarding UK State Pensions being subject to stoppage or repayment.  The web site will only show that State pensions will revert to their last legitimate claim and NO statement about reclemation of overpayments! 

Reclemation will only apply if you falsly claim  for WELFARE BENIFITS that you are not entitled to!

 

My videos are videos from different sources on pension changes saying the same things.

 

You must use Google if you want your questions answered.

 

Again, state pension is a benefit, here's your starter for 10........................😋

 

https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/121267

[transam]

18 hours ago, delgarcon said:

I have been living here for 13 years now and my pension has been increased regularly. My last 2 life certificates have been signed by my local pharmacist (in Thailand) and prior to that in France, where I have a permanent address. People like the paranoid transam do the rest of us a favour by believing the bs that he reads, as I cannot imagine any government spending a fortune trying to track down those of us  who don't declare that we live in Thailand, let alone trying to access our bank account details. Do you honestly believe that we'll all be done for fraud? You're out for a laugh transam. Do yourself a favour and call it a day, stop making a fool of yourself.

After thinking about your post, you should not be getting pension upgrades if you are living in Thailand, let me explain my thoughts.

 

YOU, must tell DWP of any change of address in the UK or another other country, even if in hospital in the UK. If abroad, you get a life certificate, in the UK you do not.

 

In France, you will get the upgrades, same as the UK, but if you set foot into Thailand, your increases will stop, until you set foot into a reciprocal agreement country, again, so if your pension has been upgraded whilst in Thailand, you have been overpaid.

 

If it were that easy 'legally', we would all be doing it......😋

 

This is a print from DWP living abroad pamphlet..

 

 

 

[transam]

15 hours ago, jori123 said:

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Posted May 12, 2020

  On 5/12/2020 at 3:52 AM, BritManToo said:

Post a photo of the letter or it didn't happen.

You can call me a liar if you like, you have my permission this one time as you know all the facts out there....????

 

My chum was caught out being overpaid, he paid the extra back, his pension was not stopped but it was reduced to the time he came to LOS...That is fact....????       Was sickness   not OAP

 

 

"You can call me a liar if you like, you have my permission this one time"....how about for all time?

So, you still have nothing then..................😂

 

[Seppius]

It is possible? If your pension goes into a UK, then you send it to Wise, then to Thai bank, must lower the risk

[scottiejohn]

2 hours ago, transam said:

My videos are videos from different sources on pension changes saying the same things.

 

You must use Google if you want your questions answered.

 

Again, state pension is a benefit, here's your starter for 10........................😋

 

https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/121267

As you have refused to properly answer my questions I can now assume that it is all just  scaremongoring on your part wrt State Pensions!

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Seppius said:

It is possible? If your pension goes into a UK, then you send it to Wise, then to Thai bank, must lower the risk

I think those here who are on the pension fiddle are doing that sort of stuff, but, it seems the new proposals are to combat that sort of thing.

They are going to look into pensioners bank accounts to see where the pension money goes.

Various sites have explained these proposals in videos..🤔

[scottiejohn]

Just now, scottiejohn said:

My videos are videos from different sources on pension changes saying the same things.

Whether there is one video or a hundred videos spouting forth the same, potentially fake infoinformation does not necessarily make them true unless you can provide a relible source to back up their claims!

[transam]

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

As you have refused to properly answer my questions I can now assume that it is all just  scaremongoring on your part wrt State Pensions!

I have refused nothing, I watched and posted videos on the new pension fraud stuff, now if you think the 3 sites I posted from are telling porkies, then go and sue them, you could earn a few quid...........

[scottiejohn]

1 minute ago, transam said:

I think those here who are on the pension fiddle are doing that sort of stuff, but, it seems the new proposals are to combat that sort of thing.

They are going to look into pensioners bank accounts to see where the pension money goes.

Various sites have explained these proposals in videos..🤔

I am still waiting for a reliable source for your claims.  Google videos are NOT a verifiable or relible scource!

[transam]

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

Whether there is one video or a hundred videos spouting forth the same, potentially fake infoinformation does not necessarily make them true unless you can provide a relible source to back up their claims!

"Back up my claims"...............🤣

 

The videos are NOT my claims, they are from sites on YouTube.......................🙄

[scottiejohn]

Just now, transam said:

"Back up my claims"...............🤣

 

The videos are NOT my claims, they are from sites on YouTube.......................🙄

 

Just now, transam said:

"Back up my claims"...............🤣

 

The videos are NOT my claims, they are from sites on YouTube.......................🙄

You are the person who is spouting forth all this scaremongering but refusing to back up the claims made in unverifiable videos!

e.g. which act of parliament are YOUR claims based on?

[transam]

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

 

You are the person who is spouting forth all this scaremongering but refusing to back up the claims made in unverifiable videos!

e.g. which act of parliament are YOUR claims based on?

I have posted videos explaining what they say is coming, nothing more, nothing less, if you think it is false, and you are fiddling your pension, then YOU should do a search or just ignore and see what happens, eh.........🙄

 

Act of Parliament for the VIDEO CLAIMS, you can get in touch with the video makers, or even YouTube for that, not me, because I don't fiddle my pension.........😉

[transam]

22 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I am still waiting for a reliable source for your claims.  Google videos are NOT a verifiable or relible scource!

Here is a respected YouTube Barrister explaining a few things about the latest new Gov Benefit fraud thingy.

I repeat, UK state pension is a benefit.....

 

 

 

Or, listen to this lady........

 

 

[BritManToo]

22 minutes ago, transam said:

Here is a respected YouTube Barrister explaining a few things about the latest new Gov Benefit fraud thingy.

I repeat, UK state pension is a benefit.....

 

 

 

Or, listen to this lady........

 

 

Well video 2 only talks about means tested benefits, no mention of the state pension, so why did you post it?

 

No need to answer, we know you only post lies and disinformation.

[BritManToo]

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Well video 2 only talks about means tested benefits, no mention of the state pension, so why did you post it?

 

No need to answer, we know you only post lies and disinformation.

Ok, so video 1 talks about universal credit claimed by people living abroad, and that there will need to be a new act of parliament giving DWP staff the power to investigate, search and seize property and arrest people. Again no mention of state pension. Not to mention no budget exists for the DWP staff to go overseas even if people fraudulently claim universal benefit. The guy claimed 2+ years at least for this act, so not January 2025

 

So more lies and disinformation from you!

Edited 2 hours ago by BritManToo

[scottiejohn]

Just now, BritManToo said:

Ok, so video 1 talks about universal credit claim by people living abroad, and that there will need to be a new act of parliament giving DWP staff the power to investigate, seize search and property and arrest people. Again no mention of state pension. Not to mention no budget exists for the to go overseas even if people fraudulently claim universal benefit.

 

So more lies and disinformation from you!

I am surprised that you even bothered to watch his "ministry of disinformation" videos!

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I am surprised that you even bothered to watch his "ministry of disinformation" videos!

I had nothing else to do while waiting for my sausages to cook!

[Denim]

ht be of some interest.

 

 

[transam]

21 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Well video 2 only talks about means tested benefits, no mention of the state pension, so why did you post it?

 

No need to answer, we know you only post lies and disinformation.

Your state pension is a benefit..........Next...🙄

[transam]

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I had nothing else to do while waiting for my sausages to cook!

At last something I agree with, from you....A sausage...........

[transam]

16 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I am surprised that you even bothered to watch his "ministry of disinformation" videos!

Ah, you don't want others to know how they may protect themselves from the changes, hmmm, very selfish attitude, but you carry one.............🤭

[transam]

27 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Well video 2 only talks about means tested benefits, no mention of the state pension, so why did you post it?

 

No need to answer, we know you only post lies and disinformation.

A worried BMT...............😉

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, Denim said:

ht be of some interest.

 

 

1. Biometric identity verification, no problem, my UK bank made me do that earlier this year, face and fingerprint.

2. Bank reporting, no problem, I don't transfer overseas from my UK bank account.

3. DWP designated pension account for all pensioners, can't see it happening, it's just not practical for 13M pensioners, they'll quietly drop this, or it'll take 10 years to implement.

[transam]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

1. Biometric identity verification, no problem, my UK bank made me do that earlier this year, face and fingerprint.

2. Bank reporting, no problem, I don't transfer overseas from my UK bank account.

3. DWP designated pension account for all pensioners, can't see it happening, it's just not practical for 13M pensioners, they'll quietly drop this, or it'll take 10 years to implement.

Clueless...........

[BritManToo]

11 minutes ago, transam said:

Clueless...........

It would be interesting to know how you think setting up a DWP dedicated pension account in the UK would be easier for you than for me?

 

I don't even need to fill in life certificates and what a poop show they are for expats, half the time they don't work!

Edited 2 hours ago by BritManToo

[scottiejohn]

15 minutes ago, transam said:

Ah, you don't want others to know how they may protect themselves from the changes, hmmm, very selfish attitude, but you carry one.............🤭

What changes?  Show me the act of Parliament that covers them.

[scottiejohn]

12 minutes ago, transam said:

Clueless...........

Looking in the mirror again?