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1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

But likewise, those who condone or  enable Israel's relentless slaughter of innocent men, women and children need to also be punished to the fullest extent.

 

Israeli soldiers will continue to rape and murder in the thousands and the West will still turn a blind eye.

 

Oh, what a load of bull you speak

 

Your opinion goes somewhat against documented fact. 

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2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I would like to to provide that documented fact of the Israeli soldiers raping and murdering 1000's

 

Are you serious? Are you so ignorant or are you wilfully in denial? 

 

I am not your research service - if you are genuinely unaware of the decades of IDF murder and abuse in general, and if you think that they have been the epitome of restraint and honour over the past year then you are certainly not going to believe me so why bother trying to educate you? 

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12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes very serious you made claims to documented facts, these ones:

 

Israeli soldiers will continue to rape and murder in the thousands and the West will still turn a blind eye.

 

Here's the forum rules:

 

In factual areas such as news forums and current affairs topics member content that is claimed or portrayed as a fact should be supported by a link to a relevant reputable source.

 

 

Well done - you must be proud of yourself. 

 

“Israeli security forces are not just unlawfully killing Palestinians in Gaza, but have been killing Palestinians without a legal basis in the West Bank, including deliberately executing Palestinians who posed no apparent threat,” said Richard Weir, senior crisis and conflict researcher at Human Rights Watch.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/05/08/west-bank-israeli-forces-unlawful-killings-palestinians

 

More women and children have been killed in Gaza by the Israeli military over the past year than the equivalent period of any other conflict over the past two decades, new Oxfam analysis has found.  

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/more-women-and-children-killed-gaza-israeli-military-any-other-recent-conflict

 

Israeli soldiers shot dead two unarmed Palestinian men in Gaza, their bodies buried in sand and rubbish by an army bulldozer, exclusive broadcast footage obtained by Al Jazeera has shown.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/3/28/israeli-soldiers-shoot-dead-two-unarmed-palestinian-men-in-gaza-video

 

More than 100 people were killed amid devastating scenes in northern Gaza, where Israeli troops opened fire Thursday, triggering panic as hungry Palestinian civilians were gathering around food aid trucks, Palestinian officials and eyewitnesses said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/02/29/middleeast/gaza-city-deaths-food-israel-intl

 

Palestinian health authorities say Israel's ground and air campaign in Gaza has killed more than 38,000 people, mostly civilians, and driven most of the enclave's 2.3 million people from their homes.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-death-toll-how-many-palestinians-has-israels-campaign-killed-2024-05-14/

 

Israeli soldiers tell of indiscriminate killings by army and a culture of impunity

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2005/sep/06/israel

 

Israeli security forces in an armored vehicle fired repeatedly into a group of civilians sheltering between a mosque and a clinic after a Feb. 22 raid in the occupied West Bank city of Nablus, killing two people, including a teenager, and wounding three others, according to witnesses and a visual reconstruction of the event by The Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2023/palestine-shooting-nablus-videos/

 

That's just the first page of Google news - there are many more with reports of other Israeli atrocities but I suspect that you aren't really concerned.

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Just now, RuamRudy said:

 

Well done - you must be proud of yourself. 

 

“Israeli security forces are not just unlawfully killing Palestinians in Gaza, but have been killing Palestinians without a legal basis in the West Bank, including deliberately executing Palestinians who posed no apparent threat,” said Richard Weir, senior crisis and conflict researcher at Human Rights Watch.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/05/08/west-bank-israeli-forces-unlawful-killings-palestinians

 

More women and children have been killed in Gaza by the Israeli military over the past year than the equivalent period of any other conflict over the past two decades, new Oxfam analysis has found.  

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/more-women-and-children-killed-gaza-israeli-military-any-other-recent-conflict

 

Israeli soldiers shot dead two unarmed Palestinian men in Gaza, their bodies buried in sand and rubbish by an army bulldozer, exclusive broadcast footage obtained by Al Jazeera has shown.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/3/28/israeli-soldiers-shoot-dead-two-unarmed-palestinian-men-in-gaza-video

 

More than 100 people were killed amid devastating scenes in northern Gaza, where Israeli troops opened fire Thursday, triggering panic as hungry Palestinian civilians were gathering around food aid trucks, Palestinian officials and eyewitnesses said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/02/29/middleeast/gaza-city-deaths-food-israel-intl

 

Palestinian health authorities say Israel's ground and air campaign in Gaza has killed more than 38,000 people, mostly civilians, and driven most of the enclave's 2.3 million people from their homes.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-death-toll-how-many-palestinians-has-israels-campaign-killed-2024-05-14/

 

Israeli soldiers tell of indiscriminate killings by army and a culture of impunity

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2005/sep/06/israel

 

Israeli security forces in an armored vehicle fired repeatedly into a group of civilians sheltering between a mosque and a clinic after a Feb. 22 raid in the occupied West Bank city of Nablus, killing two people, including a teenager, and wounding three others, according to witnesses and a visual reconstruction of the event by The Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2023/palestine-shooting-nablus-videos/

 

That's just the first page of Google news - there are many more with reports of other Israeli atrocities but I suspect that you aren't really concerned.

None of which backs up your claims of soldiers murdering and raping 1000's

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8 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Anyone not giving full support to Israel following the appalling attack on 7 October 2023, by Palestinians on the Israeli people, needs their head examining.

 

An alternative perspective :

 

Anyone not giving full support to Palestine following the appalling attacks that began with the Nakba, by Israelis on the Palestinian people, needs their head examining.

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2 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

I see. The US are still riding Israel's d..k! It's beyond me how they can turn a blind eye at what Israel is doing to Gaza. Israel is not a victim anymore. They've become the oppressor and they're not one hair better and equally as much to blame for what's going on! 

 

   Palestinians are still holds USA citizens as hostage in Gaza  .

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2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Palestinians are still holds USA citizens as hostage in Gaza  .

So? Doesn't change the fact of what I've posted before. Israel bombing schools, kindergartens, hospitals and refugee camps takes precedence over US hostages in my book! Having said that, as long as Hamas and Co. resort to acts of terrorism they're not gonna get what they want. But the US have supported Israel for long enough and have a history of turning a bild eye! 

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5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Everytime Israel gets mentioned, someone has to mention Nazis.

Its uncanny 

 

It's called Godwin's Law (or Rule) of Nazi Analogies.  According to the online Oxford English Dictionary, it's defined as:

"A facetious aphorism maintaining that as an online debate increases in length, it becomes inevitable that someone will eventually compare someone or something to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis. Also in extended use.  Originally referring specifically to discussions on Usenet: ..."  https://www.oed.com/dictionary/godwins-law_n#

 

Godwin's Law goes all the way back to 1990. It was formulated by U.S. attorney Mike Godwin because he felt comparisons to Hilter or Nazis in Usenet discussions of the time trivialized the Holocaust. 

 http://w2.eff.org/Net_culture/Folklore/Humor/godwins.law

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36 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why do the Hamas terrorists hide out in schools, UN facilities and refugee camps? They do it to use the local Gazans as human shields, a war crime and deliberate method by them to cause casualties on civilians and not them.

They don't hide there to use them as human shields! According to the Geneva convention bombing those places is a crime of war! If Israel would abide by the Geneva convention then those places wouldn't be bombed and therefore they'd be safe there and that's why they hide there. But Israel doesn't give one flying f..k about that and so to get a few baddies they kill lots and lots of innocent people, which is genocide, which in turn is why the UN has a problem with them...

 

You gotta look at the big picture sh.t!

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Just now, pacovl46 said:

They don't hide there to use them as human shields! According to the Geneva convention bombing those places is a crime of war! If Israel would abide by the Geneva convention then those places wouldn't be bombed and therefore they'd be safe there and that's why they hide there. But Israel doesn't give one flying f..k about that and so to get a few baddies they kill lots and lots of innocent people, which is genocide, which in turn is why the UN has a problem with them...

 

You gotta look at the big picture sh.t!

Yes they do............. and you talk about me needing to look at the big picture! Hamas even admits they sacrifice the civilians.

 

Human sacrifice is central to Hamas's strategy

 

 

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America is great again?

 

LOL.

 

I do not know how many times during my life-time (almost 70 years) that I have read articles, or listened to news reports, about voting for UN resolutions, where the vast majority of countries support/reject the resolution, a handful of countries abstain, and often only 2 - Israel and the USA - (sometimes a couple more) countries reject/support the resolution.  The USA and Israel have for many many decades been our of step with world popular opinion.  The USA's "war" against communism and terrorism often with democratic/popular governments across the globe has caused tens, if not hundreds, of millions of deaths, massive torture and human rights abuses across Africa, Asian the Middle East, South/Central America, etc.  (In the 1950s and 1960s the Khmer Rouge was a small band of a few dozen to a few hundred supporters, until "Tricky Dicky" and Henry Kissinger decided to bomb Viet Cong supply routes in Cambodia, which gave rise to popular support for the Khmer Rouge who took control on Cambodia on 17 April 1975, and the ethnocide and genocide which resulted in the deaths of about one-third of the Cambodian population.)

 

Let us face it, the USA has brought massive suffering to billions of people across the globe.  Supporting genocidal regimes seems to be the USA's norm (just as it continues its discrimination and historical genocide against people of "colour" in the USA.

 

The moral authority of the USA does not exist.  The USA is, and has been for so long, a moral abyss.

 

Some progressives hope that Trump will destroy the corrupt, big-business friendly, genocidal USA political system and a new age of equality and peace will follow.  But possibly these progressive fail to see that their hope, like the hope of the 1960s USA, has a dangerous dark side.

 

Enjoy your day.

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3 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

They don't hide there to use them as human shields!

Yes, they do.  Hamas has dug a vast system of tunnels under residential buildings, schools, shops, hospitals, etc.  The tunnels are used for  military purposes and smuggling and are legimate targets under the Geneva Conventions.  The Palestinians who live, work or study in the buildings atop the tunnels have become involuntary human shields.

 

"Snaking beneath dense residential areas, the passageways allow fighters to move around free from the eye of the enemy. There are also bunkers for stockpiling weapons, food and water, and even command centers and tunnels wide enough for vehicles, researchers believe. Ordinary-looking doors and hatches serve as disguised access points, letting Hamas fighters dart out on missions and then slip back out of sight."  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/10/world/europe/hamas-gaza-tunnels.html#:~:text=After Hamas came to power in 2007%2C and,and electronic equipment to construction materials and fuel.

 

The State of Palestine is a signatory nation to all the Geneva Conventions.  The Fourth Geneva Convention in Article 28 states,  "The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."   https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.33_GC-IV-EN.pdf    By using non-combatants  as human shields,  Hamas and ultimately the State of Palestine is violating the Geneva Convention and committing a war crime.

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