43 minutes ago, Presto said:

Hopefully this will help you. The witness testified under oath.

 

Rep. Gaetz sought Trump pardon, former White House aide testifies to Jan 6 committee

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/17/politics/matt-gaetz-trump-pardon-justice-department/index.html

 

It's worth reading this CNN contribution to truth and harmony very carefully.   Read it slowly and you will see that the word "pardon" is mentioned a million times, but it never is clearly defined as a pardon for a specific crime or misdemeanour.

Many GOP reps who anticipated that the Dems would (as they indeed did) be using lawfare to wreak vengeance on Trump supporters went to the office of Mark Meadows seeking blanket pardons for anything that might come down the line.

 

Note in particular this sentence:

 

McEntee testified to the committee that Gaetz said he asked Meadows explicitly for a pardon, though it was not clear at the time what the pardon request was for.

 

This long tissue of fake allegations and obfuscations ends with this sentence:

None of the lawmakers ever received pardons from Trump.

 

Fake news at its best.

8 hours ago, Red Forever said:

More far right drivel.

Evidence please of "Clinton of course abused interns in the oval office".

Monica doesn't count as she consented.

 

So if you are a democratic president you can get interns to suck you off in the oval office and that does not count if they have been bullied into it. An abuse of power at the very least.

I see that my 'unsubstantiated claim' about the pre-emptive pardon may have raised a few hackles while I was away.

 

My reticensce at fulfilling @scottiejohn's request for a 'credible' source wasn't an attempt to flaunt forum rules, it was more to save bandwidth with the 'fake news' posts that probably ensued.

 

For those who consider CNN as not credible (personally I don't watch it), here's another link to the claim. I hope this makes it less unsusbtantiated and more credible.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3647888-gaetz-sought-pardon-from-trump-over-doj-probe-into-sex-trafficking-allegations-report/

 

1 hour ago, blazes said:

 

It's worth reading this CNN contribution to truth and harmony very carefully.   Read it slowly and you will see that the word "pardon" is mentioned a million times, but it never is clearly defined as a pardon for a specific crime or misdemeanour.

Many GOP reps who anticipated that the Dems would (as they indeed did) be using lawfare to wreak vengeance on Trump supporters went to the office of Mark Meadows seeking blanket pardons for anything that might come down the line.

 

Note in particular this sentence:

 

McEntee testified to the committee that Gaetz said he asked Meadows explicitly for a pardon, though it was not clear at the time what the pardon request was for.

 

This long tissue of fake allegations and obfuscations ends with this sentence:

None of the lawmakers ever received pardons from Trump.

 

Fake news at its best.

 

Have you ever played Monopoly?

 

Have you ever won the "Get Out of Jail - Free" card?

 

It's the same as a Trump 'one-size fits all (misdemenaours and felonies) sizes' sort of pardon. No crimes attached, no names, no pack-drill.

 

I hope this helps.

 

PS: We are talking about a specific pre-emptive pardon here, not something that wasn't delivered in the past.

 

I hope this helps some more.

44 minutes ago, proton said:

 

So if you are a democratic president you can get interns to suck you off in the oval office and that does not count if they have been bullied into it. An abuse of power at the very least.

 

Gaetz Now Focus.

1 hour ago, blazes said:

 

It's worth reading this CNN contribution to truth and harmony very carefully.   Read it slowly and you will see that the word "pardon" is mentioned a million times, but it never is clearly defined as a pardon for a specific crime or misdemeanour.

Many GOP reps who anticipated that the Dems would (as they indeed did) be using lawfare to wreak vengeance on Trump supporters went to the office of Mark Meadows seeking blanket pardons for anything that might come down the line.

 

Note in particular this sentence:

 

McEntee testified to the committee that Gaetz said he asked Meadows explicitly for a pardon, though it was not clear at the time what the pardon request was for.

 

This long tissue of fake allegations and obfuscations ends with this sentence:

None of the lawmakers ever received pardons from Trump.

 

Fake news at its best.

Thanks for reminding me that there could well be another crime Gaetz was worried about and thought he needed a pardon for.

Edited November 18, 20241 yr by Presto

44 minutes ago, proton said:

 

So if you are a democratic president you can get interns to suck you off in the oval office and that does not count if they have been bullied into it. An abuse of power at the very least.

 

From the internet and her own mouth, Monica Lewinski was of-age and what happened in the Oval Office was totally consensual (it's in her book).

 

The bullying and abuse of power came from online trolls AFTER she admitted to it.

 

Anyway, there's nothing in the law of the land that says Trump can't get laid in the Oval Office, but like almost 30 years ago with Clinton, it's just not proper etiquette.

 

Moot point anyway as it's just unlikely that he may find anyone willing to participate (for free).

 

Apart from Mark Meadows, maybe?

13 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

From the internet and her own mouth, Monica Lewinski was of-age and what happened in the Oval Office was totally consensual (it's in her book).

 

The bullying and abuse of power came from online trolls AFTER she admitted to it.

 

Anyway, there's nothing in the law of the land that says Trump can't get laid in the Oval Office, but like almost 30 years ago with Clinton, it's just not proper etiquette.

 

Moot point anyway as it's just unlikely that he may find anyone willing to participate (for free).

 

Apart from Mark Meadows, maybe?

Laura Loomer, maybe? They seem to have a spiritual connection.

Edited November 18, 20241 yr by Presto

2 hours ago, Presto said:

McEntee testified to the committee that Gaetz said he asked Meadows explicitly for a pardon, though it was not clear at the time what the pardon request was for.

Pure hearsay testimony and totally inadmissible. DOJ investigated Gaetz for years on this matter and eventually dropped the investigation for various reasons one being dodgy , unreliable witness testimony and they had no case. Biden's DOJ would have jumped at the chance to indict Gaetz in a NY minute if they could. He's ultra adept at rooting out lies, corruption, deceit, etc at the FBI and DOJ. Watch him embarrass and expose FBI director Wray. Gaetz is hardcore tactical and smart as the day is long.

 

 

1 minute ago, illisdean said:

Pure hearsay testimony and totally inadmissible. DOJ investigated Gaetz for years on this matter and eventually dropped the investigation for various reasons one being dodgy , unreliable witness testimony and they had no case. Biden's DOJ would have jumped at the chance to indict Gaetz in a NY minute if they could. He's ultra adept at rooting out lies, corruption, deceit, etc at the FBI and DOJ. Watch him embarrass and expose FBI director Wray. Gaetz is hardcore tactical and smart as the day is long.

 

 

Hahaha! Biden's DOJ would have jumped at this opportunity? How delusional can you be. The Garland DOJ has showed itself as cowardly, out of political fear. That's why one and a half year were wasted, and none of Trump's co-conspirators were indicted. And never will.

A complete demasque of the American legal system, and the Gaetz case is no exception. And that's why the house Republicans will do everything they can to suppress the Ethics committee report. Because there's nothing to see here, right?

There are many REPUBLICAN (yes REPUBLICAN not DEMOCRATIC) senators and congressmen who have reported that this creep was going around boasting and showing pictures of his sexual ‘conquests’ most of whom looked young. There is a reason he is widely disliked by members of his own party. You don’t have to listen to Democrats or the liberal media to understand that there is something seriously wrong with this guy. The Republicans in Congress decided to do their own investigation for a reason.

1 hour ago, Presto said:

The Garland DOJ

this same DOJ tried to imprison Trump for hundreds of years with bogus hoax lawfare and they failed. They indicted Trump every time he farted and would have bent over backwards to put the screws to Matt Gaetz given the opportunity, (they tried & failed) because he brings the truth which all democrats fear. Democrats have spent the past four years failing with their woke and DESTRUCTIVE policies, inept "leader-sheep", and also wasted four years attacking Trump and failed every step of the way...... ONLY TO GET HIM ELECTED.

 

Hows that for delusional. LOL.

 

Watch & weep, the adults are back in the room. try not be delusional.

 

 

 

45 minutes ago, charmonman said:

There is a reason he is widely disliked by members of his own party

Of course they do, would you like someone exposing your corrupt inclinations and who thrives to deliver the facts and truths, good, bad or ugly about you. The problem is they dislike the fact that Matt Gaetz does his job and has a huge brain. They can't touch him. He'll shake up the deep state actors and right the ship given the opportunity. Thats why he'\ was a target of Bidens DOJ. 

 

 

Edited November 18, 20241 yr by illisdean

13 hours ago, pattayasan said:

 

Why should not stopping it have any relevance? You appear to be leaning into this consensual misconception. The girl was a minor.

*Alleged girl. There are no facts to say this is true.

1 hour ago, Presto said:

Trump's co-conspirators

what conspiracy....making fools of liberals and woke left wing loons?

 

J6 conspiracy...?? LOL....gone, just go ask illegitimate SC Jack Smith how the J6 case (trumps violation of the KKK act) is going? No insurrection charges? No evidence seems to be the problem, bigger problem is there is no case. And guess what: be sure to tune in and watch MAGA / Trump get inaugurated Jan 20 next year. 

13 minutes ago, illisdean said:

this same DOJ tried to imprison Trump for hundreds of years with bogus hoax lawfare and they failed. They indicted Trump every time he farted and would have bent over backwards to put the screws to Matt Gaetz given the opportunity, (they tried & failed) because he brings the truth which all democrats fear. Democrats have spent the past four years failing with their woke and DESTRUCTIVE policies, inept "leader-sheep", and also wasted four years attacking Trump and failed every step of the way...... ONLY TO GET HIM ELECTED.

 

Hows that for delusional. LOL.

 

Watch & weep, the adults are back in the room. try not be delusional.

 

 

 

Well, it's encouraging to see you've managed to squeeze the word 'lawfare' into your stream of consciousness rant.

Copy-paste?

1 minute ago, illisdean said:

what conspiracy....making fools of liberals and woke left wing loons?

 

J6 conspiracy...?? LOL....gone, just go ask illegitimate SC Jack Smith how the J6 case (trumps violation of the KKK act) is going? No insurrection charges? No evidence seems to be the problem, bigger problem is there is no case. And guess what: be sure to tune in and watch MAGA / Trump get inaugurated Jan 20 next year. 

Co-conspirators is in the indictment. You might want to look it up.

5 hours ago, Real Name Hidden said:

Trump is going off the rails (already) with this nomination

Here is another Trump supporter 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/may/01/south-dakota-kristi-noem-killed-dog/

13 hours ago, impulse said:

 

You mean like they let Biden off the hook for Tara Reade?

 

Yeah, believe all women.....apart from her

11 hours ago, illisdean said:

Why wait 7 years to come forward and report a felony? LOL.....right.....!

 

 

Guaranteed the same members here will believe it without question. 

1 hour ago, Presto said:

indictment

what indictment? There's 4, u might want to look it up when you find time to stop trolling....

 

LOL

1 hour ago, Presto said:

Copy-paste?

u wood no,,,,,

go back to your fetal position.

I don't understand the outrage!

It just confirms he has the right qualities and credentials to work for the Trump administration! 😀

16 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This guy is the least qualified person ever selected for the office of Attorney General, he graduated from a very minor law school, he practiced very simple law for two years, he never held a Judicial post and the only reason that comes to mind that he was selected was that he shares Trump's animosity for the justice department. 

 

I said this a long time ago and I'll say it again, if there's one thing you can count on with Donald Trump it's that he will pick from the bottom of the barrel when it comes to selecting people for his administration. He showed it last time around and he's showing that again. 

Sour grapes? It's pay back time and Gaetz is the man to do the job.

5 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Guaranteed the same members here will believe it without question. 

They will believe anything no matter how false as long as it blackens Trump. Just as they believed a senile geriatric was capable of being POTUS as he wasn't Trump.

16 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I said this a long time ago and I'll say it again, if there's one thing you can count on with Donald Trump it's that he will pick from the bottom of the barrel when it comes to selecting people for his administration.

So you agree with me that Kelly was a bottom of the barrel pick!

 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sour grapes? It's pay back time and Gaetz is the man to do the job.

Why do you think Gaetz is the right choice?

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Why do you think Gaetz is the right choice?

Do you have anyone else in mind to be Trump's attack dog?

He has personal animosity to them for what they have been doing to him, so he'll be even more vicious than someone not been attacked by the so called justice system.

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Do you have anyone else in mind to be Trump's attack dog?

He has personal animosity to them for what they have been doing to him, so he'll be even more vicious than someone not been attacked by the so called justice system.

Too many things to say about this. The mentality oozing from this post, incredible.