What Will Trump’s Economic Plan Mean for American Wallets?

[Gecko123]

Insightful interview with Financial Times business columnist Rana Foroohar. I suspect the phrase she has coined that "America may be on the verge of becoming a distressed asset" may prove to be prescient.

 

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[novacova]

Another delusional prop futile attempt to seed doubt. 
Fossil fuel production = economic growth, the more the better. It’s the simplest concept of elementary economics 

[Gecko123]

56 minutes ago, novacova said:

Another delusional prop futile attempt to seed doubt. 
Fossil fuel production = economic growth, the more the better. It’s the simplest concept of elementary economics 

Trump's policies on fossil fuel production and fracking weren't referenced a single time in the interview so It's highly doubtful that you watched it. Fossil fuel production may stimulate economic growth in the short term, but when you factor in the economic costs of extreme weather caused by reliance on fossil fuels, the economic benefits are greatly diminished.  Are you familiar with the concepts of hidden economic costs and shifting costs from one generation to the next?  A scholarly analysis of proposed economic policies is now being dismissed out of hand as propaganda and resented as condescension coming from egghead elites? If that's the case, we're in deep trouble people.

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Gecko123

[TedG]

58 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

Trump's policies on fossil fuel production and fracking weren't referenced a single time in the interview so It's highly doubtful that you watched it. Fossil fuel production may stimulate economic growth in the short term, but when you factor in the economic costs of extreme weather caused by reliance on fossil fuels, the economic benefits are greatly diminished.  Are you familiar with the concepts of hidden economic costs and shifting costs from one generation to the next?  A scholarly analysis of proposed economic policies is now being dismissed out of hand as propaganda and resented as condescension coming from egghead elites? If that's the case, we're in deep trouble people.

 

 

This is more wishful thinking on your part. 

[Luuk Chaai]

[pattayasan]

The world is awash with oil so I guess drill baby drill was just a populist slogan.

[Cryingdick]

8 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

The world is awash with oil so I guess drill baby drill was just a populist slogan.

 

Refineries and distribution is important. 

[pattayasan]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

 

Refineries and distribution is important. 

 

Refineries and distribution don't drill.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

Refineries and distribution don't drill.

Okay let''s be obtuse for no reason. Things like the Keystone pipeline will help. 

[pattayasan]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

Okay let''s be obtuse for no reason. Things like the Keystone pipeline will help. 

 

Me obtuse? Get a grip. I offered a rational explanation why "drill baby drill" is meaningless tripe and you come back with some kind of deflection that has nothing to do with drilling. Here is more. How is the keystone pipeline going to help? Going to help what? Transport more oil than it's commercially viable to drill?

 

How about you pad out your answers with some rationale. No wonder people get offside.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

Me obtuse? Get a grip. I offered a rational explanation why "drill baby drill" is meaningless tripe and you come back with some kind of deflection that has nothing to do with drilling. Here is more. How is the keystone pipeline going to help? Going to help what? Transport more oil than it's commercially viable to drill?

 

How about you pad out your answers with some rationale. No wonder people get offside.

 

Yes drill baby drill was a campaign slogan. Let's not let shiny objects distract us.

[pattayasan]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

 

Yes drill baby drill was a campaign slogan. Let's not let shiny objects distract us.

 

I didn't. The MAGA morons fell for this shiny object.

[Cryingdick]

Just now, pattayasan said:

 

I didn't. The MAGA morons fell for this shiny object.

 

A campaign slogan isn't going to hurt the American pocket book. Energy production and distribution whether it is LPG, NG, oil or nuclear is going to help. Oil may become more scarce if the nails are put to Russia and Iran. 

 

What was the alternative high paying jobs in factories making solar panels? 

 

What do you suggest? 

[pattayasan]

11 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

A campaign slogan isn't going to hurt the American pocket book. Energy production and distribution whether it is LPG, NG, oil or nuclear is going to help. Oil may become more scarce if the nails are put to Russia and Iran. 

 

What was the alternative high paying jobs in factories making solar panels? 

 

What do you suggest? 

 

I suggest maybe political candidates be a little more honest with low information voters.

[Cryingdick]

2 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

I suggest maybe political candidates be a little more honest with low information voters.

Hold on while I put you on the phone with Kamala.

[pattayasan]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

Hold on while I put you on the phone with Kamala.

 

Did she mention immigrants eating pets?

[Cryingdick]

Just now, pattayasan said:

 

Did she mention immigrants eating pets?

 

Would you leave your pug outside unguarded in Springfield? 

[pattayasan]

3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Would you leave your pug outside unguarded in Springfield? 

 

Please grow up.

[Cryingdick]

4 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Please grow up.

I have lived through many waves of refugees. The first among them was the Hmong in Minnesota. Yeah they shoot geese, ducks, pigeons, etc with home made devices. They are used to that in their home country. The fact a pet or two might go missing with a large amount of third world refugees isn't surprising to me.

 

When I lived on Don Det Laos, if Cambodian or Viet Namese workers came through you kept your pets close. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Cryingdick

[blaze master]

7 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Did she mention immigrants eating pets?

 

Why is this continuing to be a big deal when it is well known that humans still consume those meats. Putting aside the Springfield thing I don't see where the continued surprise and shock are.

 

[nobodysfriend]

16 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

Trump's policies on fossil fuel production and fracking weren't referenced a single time in the interview so It's highly doubtful that you watched it. Fossil fuel production may stimulate economic growth in the short term, but when you factor in the economic costs of extreme weather caused by reliance on fossil fuels, the economic benefits are greatly diminished.  Are you familiar with the concepts of hidden economic costs and shifting costs from one generation to the next?  A scholarly analysis of proposed economic policies is now being dismissed out of hand as propaganda and resented as condescension coming from egghead elites? If that's the case, we're in deep trouble people.

 

 

The Human Lemmings are having a party and dance on top of the cliff ... just before they jump ...

They all love the money more than everything , they live for it , they kill for it , the more they got , the more they want ...

bound for destruction , they still want more and more , incapable to realize their own stupidity ...

A failed species , incapable of mental evolution , they just follow what evil leaders tell them .

I am sorry for the planet and it's non human inhabitants , the humans create their own misery and , finally , extinction ...

Bravo !

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

The Human Lemmings are having a party and dance on top of the cliff ... just before they jump ...

They all love the money more than everything , they live for it , they kill for it , the more they got , the more they want ...

bound for destruction , they still want more and more , incapable to realize their own stupidity ...

A failed species , incapable of mental evolution , they just follow what evil leaders tell them .

I am sorry for the planet and it's non human inhabitants , the humans create their own misery and , finally , extinction ...

Bravo !

 

This is the epitome of the nutcase drivel that just got rejected on a wholesale basis in my country.

[Red Forever]

Hmm ...a Financial Times business columnist or a handful of climate change denying MAGAs on A.N.

Just who does one believe?

[nobodysfriend]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

 

This is the epitome of the nutcase drivel that just got rejected on a wholesale basis in my country.

 

Just wait , the hurricanes will get you , or the flooding , or the fires ... no more food , harvests will be destroyed , drinking water polluted ... all because of human greed ...

A nice future mankind builds here , while dancing around the golden calf ...

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

Just wait , the hurricanes will get you , or the flooding , or the fires ... no more food , harvests will be destroyed , drinking water polluted ... all because of human greed ...

A nice future mankind builds here , while dancing around the golden calf ...

I wonder why that message doesn't sell well?

[nobodysfriend]

 

 

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

I wonder why that message doesn't sell well?

 

They just do not want to realize or admit that they are WRONG .

[Cryingdick]

6 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

Hmm ...a Financial Times business columnist or a handful of climate change denying MAGAs on A.N.

Just who does one believe?

 

Have you looked around lately? Mainstream business columnists are about to go out of work. They are never right.

[Cryingdick]

Just now, nobodysfriend said:

 

 

 

They just do not want to realize or admit that they are WRONG .

So what would you do?

[nobodysfriend]

17 hours ago, novacova said:

Another delusional prop futile attempt to seed doubt. 
Fossil fuel production = economic growth, the more the better. It’s the simplest concept of elementary economics 

 

You can lead a horse to the water , but you can't make it drink ...

You can explain and prove what is wrong to people , but you just can't make them understand ...

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

You can lead a horse to the water , but you can't make it drink ...

You can explain and prove what is wrong to people , but you just can't make them understand ...

 

That is especially true when your point of view is baths!t crazy.