Imperial college Covid-vaccine fantasy of 20 million lives saved...

[Red Phoenix]

Anyone tired of hearing "the vaccines saved 20 million lives" fairy-tale?  

 

Quote > "UK's Imperial College has produced a new fantasy number to test people’s gullibility. This time they are claiming that 19.8 million lives have been saved by vaccination.

Imperial College now have a global reputation for making provable wrong claims based on modelling and they appear to want to bolster that reputation. Previous harm caused by Imperial include Neil Ferguson’s models in 2001 that led to the culling of 6 million cattle and sheep allegedly to prevent spread of foot and mouth disease which cost the UK economy £10bn. Subsequent predictions have included 50,000-150,000 deaths in humans in 2002 due to CJD because of the BSE outbreak (there were 177 deaths), 200 million deaths from bird flu in 2005 worldwide (there were 78); 65,000 deaths from Swine flu in UK in 2009 (there were 457)."

 

Source: https://www.hartgroup.org/imperial-fantasy-of-20-million-lives-saved

[johng]

Same sorts of "modelling" used for the climate change scam !

[pattayasan]

The Health Advisory and Recovery Team (also HART or HART Group) is a British pressure group opposed to COVID-19 mitigation measures and COVID-19 vaccines

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Advisory_and_Recovery_Team

[Red Phoenix]

5 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

The Health Advisory and Recovery Team (also HART or HART Group) is a British pressure group opposed to COVID-19 mitigation measures and COVID-19 vaccines

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Advisory_and_Recovery_Team

 

    The HART group

   Who are we?

HART is a group of highly qualified UK doctors, scientists, economists, psychologists and other academic experts.  We came together over shared concerns about policy and guidance recommendations relating to the COVID-19 pandemic. 

We continue to be concerned about the lack of open scientific debate in mainstream media and the worrying trend of censorship and harassment of those who question the narrative. Science without question is dogma.

Specifically, we identify a need for public policy to reflect a broader and more balanced approach across a number of key areas, such as:

• Impact of masks and mandatory lockdowns on wider society; 
• Assessment of the long-term impact of school and university closures; 
• Re-evaluation of the evidence on transmission and the role of asymptomatic spread; 
• Re-evaluation of diagnostic testing, track and trace and associated data analysis; 
• The psychological impact of the government’s COVID-19 advertising campaigns (in particular the ‘sick until proven healthy’ directives);
• An urgent evaluation of the evidence base for safe and effective (non-vaccine) medicines to treat and prevent illness from SARS-CoV-2 and its variants, and more research where considered necessary.

Source: https://www.hartgroup.org/

 

[Jim Blue]

Who cares ?

[danferguson]

7 hours ago, pattayasan said:

The Health Advisory and Recovery Team (also HART or HART Group) is a British pressure group opposed to COVID-19 mitigation measures and COVID-19 vaccines

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Advisory_and_Recovery_Team

 

You just have to look at the "See also" section to see the list of crackpots that Hart Group are grouped in with 

[danferguson]

8 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Anyone tired of hearing "the vaccines saved 20 million lives" fairy-tale?  

 

Quote > "UK's Imperial College has produced a new fantasy number to test people’s gullibility. This time they are claiming that 19.8 million lives have been saved by vaccination.

Imperial College now have a global reputation for making provable wrong claims based on modelling and they appear to want to bolster that reputation. Previous harm caused by Imperial include Neil Ferguson’s models in 2001 that led to the culling of 6 million cattle and sheep allegedly to prevent spread of foot and mouth disease which cost the UK economy £10bn. Subsequent predictions have included 50,000-150,000 deaths in humans in 2002 due to CJD because of the BSE outbreak (there were 177 deaths), 200 million deaths from bird flu in 2005 worldwide (there were 78); 65,000 deaths from Swine flu in UK in 2009 (there were 457)."

 

Source: https://www.hartgroup.org/imperial-fantasy-of-20-million-lives-saved

 

It's amazing how they always miss out the caveats in most modelling predictions ie "if you do nothing, xxx will happen". And, guess what, the authorities DID do something so the modelling predictions did not happen.

 

Same with Imperial/Fergusons modelling/predictions for Covid. 'If no mitigation actions are taken, 1 zillion people could die'.......guess what, the government DID take mitigation actions so the predictions did not happen.