'Deception and denial': Voter views reveal dark truth about Trump's 'mandate'

[Yagoda]

On 11/25/2024 at 6:03 AM, dinsdale said:

An opinion piece and the woke BBC. Talk about grasping at straws. Sorry but the thread you've started lacks any credibility.

Like every other one the Leftist losers start.

[Walker88]

23 hours ago, expat_4_life said:

They don't like Trump, he's a threat to the political class and wants to reform the institutions that comprise the trough they've been feeding at for decades ... this sums up the medias hand wringing and yours it seems.

Are you old enough to remember when Bill Clinton won the election with a mere 43% of the popular vote back in 1992?  They liked Clinton and Time magazine called it a "Mandate for Change".

Regardless of what you read, Trump has a mandate too.


 

 

Oh my! To me, what I read there is evidence of next level naivete.

 

The slurping at the trough from guys like Musk, Thiel, Griffin, etc. is going to top Krakatoa on the decibel meter.

 

47 got the votes from people he himself calls "losers". They no longer have any value whatsoever to him.

 

47 has long sought acceptance from people he wishes he could be, which is to say successful in their own right, not silver spoon legacy kids. He will do whatever it takes to win their praise, and they will give him all the false praise he seeks, so long as it benefits them. Just like he sucked up to Jeffrey Epstein, he now sucks up to the new elite.

 

Once somebody has a few 'units', he or she is immune from the havoc and carnage they know 47 will create. There's a reason so many built bogout bunkers in New Zealand or Hawaii or other isolated places. They will take whatever largesse 47 gives them, always ready to gas up the Gulfstream and let the masses have at each other.

[BritManToo]

40 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

What you call the 'mess [Dems] have inflicted on the country' is what others call growth and low unemployment.

You think drag queen storytime in kindergarten is a good thing?

And you also support women killing their babies?

Edited 15 hours ago by BritManToo

[Hanaguma]

21 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Right because the billionaire donor class wouldn't have had Kamala in their pocket. Love the liberals and their take on money. Republicans go from knuckle dragging poverty infested Walmart shoppers to the rich elite depending on which scrip they read from.

Actually, both are true. The GOP is a Big Tent party. Unlike the Democrats, who have devolved into catering exculsively to the limousine liberal class.

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

 

Oh my! To me, what I read there is evidence of next level naivete.

 

The slurping at the trough from guys like Musk, Thiel, Griffin, etc. is going to top Krakatoa on the decibel meter.

 

47 got the votes from people he himself calls "losers". They no longer have any value whatsoever to him.

 

47 has long sought acceptance from people he wishes he could be, which is to say successful in their own right, not silver spoon legacy kids. He will do whatever it takes to win their praise, and they will give him all the false praise he seeks, so long as it benefits them. Just like he sucked up to Jeffrey Epstein, he now sucks up to the new elite.

 

Once somebody has a few 'units', he or she is immune from the havoc and carnage they know 47 will create. There's a reason so many built bogout bunkers in New Zealand or Hawaii or other isolated places. They will take whatever largesse 47 gives them, always ready to gas up the Gulfstream and let the masses have at each other.

Wow. A psychologist would have a field day with that one.

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You think drag queen storytime in kindergarten is a good thing?

Yes. It reinforces the important view for these impressionable children that gender is a fluid concept and that women are nothing but overly exaggerated caricatures with breasts like two piglets under a blanket, fright wigs and clown makeup.

[Thingamabob]

On 11/23/2024 at 1:43 PM, simple1 said:

Interviews with Donald Trump's voters reveal a dark truth about the "mandate" his supporters say the president-elect has been granted, a new report reveals.

 

'Deception and denial': Voter views reveal dark truth about Trump's 'mandate'

 

How big is Donald Trump’s mandate?

 

data suggests it was a much closer contest than he and his allies are suggesting.

His communications director Steven Cheung has called it a "landslide" victory. Yet it emerged this week that his share of the vote has fallen below 50%, as counting continues.

Trump won not only the Presidency, but also the popular vote, and control of both the Senate and the House. The size of the mandate that this gives him is unquantifiable. It will depend entirely on the support he gets from both main parties during his tenure. Impossible to say at this stage how much that may be.

[BigStar]

5 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

You can stop campaigning. You lost.  

 

It's well that Piers Morgan doesn't read this forum to find our loony leftists in his nightmares along with their mentors, the airheads of The View:

 

In my worst nightmares, I find myself trapped on a desert island with the hosts of ‘The View.’ And all day long, I’m subjected to them all snarling, whining, scowling, seething and cursing about the same thing: Donald Trump,” wrote Morgan in an op-ed for the New York Post. “The nightmares are long, torrid, mentally scarring, and always involve the exact same pattern.”

     --Piers Morgan dumps on ‘The View’ in scathing op-ed: ‘Pointless, irrelevant, Trump-loathing joke’

 

We might say that, like the leftist mayor, city council, and DA with San Francisco, they've turned the forum into the media equivalent of the poop map:

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by BigStar

[Patong2021]

5 hours ago, Andycoops said:

As the election winner is based on the absurd electoral votes system, the percentage of votes cast for any particular party is irrelevant.

 

Nothing is absurd with the electoral college system. It is actually very democratic and protects the country from regionalism. The problem is that you do not understand how it works.

Each state and DC is  allocated a number of electoral college votes equal to the number of Senators and Representatives in its U.S. Congressional delegation -two votes for its Senators in the U.S. Senate plus a number of votes equal to the number of its Congressional districts, with DC allocated three electors. Aside from a slight difference in Maine and Nebraska, the electoral votes are decided  based on the total votes cast for  a candidate, so your statement that the  percentage of votes cast is irrelevant is not correct.

It is no different than the first past the post format for the election of a MPs in most parliamentary democracies.

 

In the USA, to simplify, there are 51 individual voting districts each with a number of electoral votes that reflects their population. In a parliamentary democracy, a party can select its PM if it wins enough seats, even though it wins a lower percentage of the popular vote. The US electoral system is similar. The electoral college prevents a regional dominance and acts to ensure that smaller regions still have a voice and are not ignored.

 

The Electoral College system works and it is fair.

 

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Patong2021

[Aviatorhi]

14 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Not sure it's that ridiculous, unless you think the packed masses living in the city should have the right to tell the rural farmers and land owners what to do.

They should - or should the minority of rural farmers be telling the majority packed masses what to do instead?

 

Seriously though, just get a divorce... It'll be less painful. 

 

Or don't... And I can watch the civil war on Livestreams. 

 

It'll be a riot either way.