Question about extending visa before renewing passport

[Glenn128]

I did a border run to Cambodia on the 11th and have a 60 day stamp, but I'm almost out of pages so I need to mail it in for renewal. My question is, how soon can I go to Immigration to get the 30 day extension after arriving, and will it have any adverse effect on the passport renewal process? I'm American, so I'm mailing to the American embassy, and have already completed all the forms and requirements, but I'm now considering getting a 30 day extension so as to give me maximum cushion for processing time, but I'm wondering if it could cause a problem either at immigration or in the passport renewal process?

 

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[metisdead]

Moving to the Thai Visas forum. 

[DrJack54]

14 minutes ago, Glenn128 said:

but I'm now considering getting a 30 day extension so as to give me maximum cushion for processing time, but I'm wondering if it could cause a problem either at immigration or in the passport renewal process?

Here is thread discussing process however does not address your specific question.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1316179-american-passport-renewal-process/

 

I recently renewed Oz passport. Total 20 days online process.

Recent report of time for renew USA pp (can't find it) process times has come down from the thread attached.

I would sit tight and apply for the 30 days extension when pp has not arrived and you then realize need for more time

[bigt3116]

15 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I recently renewed Oz passport. Total 20 days online process.

 

Totally off topic, your Oz passport renewal has ZERO to do with renewing at the US embassy.

[DrJack54]

24 minutes ago, bigt3116 said:

 

Totally off topic, your Oz passport renewal has ZERO to do with renewing at the US embassy.

For heaven's sake. I overlooked stating  that several months ago passport renewal across the board has greatly improved in recent times..

Oz pp renewal a year ago taking much longer than now. 

 

I then added ......

"Recent report of time for renew USA pp (can't find it) process times has come down from the thread attached." 

There was recent post USA passport process time has also improved.

 

Just for once make a post that addresses OP helpfully. 

[DrJack54]

OP, here is thread from march re USA pp renewal. 

OP obtained new pp in one month..

 

 

[Glenn128]

Thanks all for the replies. So is there any issue with extending 30 days even though I'm just 13 days into my current 60 day stamp? I was never really sure on how soon we can go for the 30 day extension after arriving in Thailand.

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, Glenn128 said:

Thanks all for the replies. So is there any issue with extending 30 days even though I'm just 13 days into my current 60 day stamp? I was never really sure on how soon we can go for the 30 day extension after arriving in Thailand.

Which immigration office.

Some may do it early some/many will not.

Couple of weeks early is the norm.

An agent would be able to do it in the timeframe you indicate.

Which immigration office? 

[bamnutsak]

Processing time per the USEMBTHL is up to six to eight weeks.

 

Recent reports, this year, have been five to seven weeks, but some reports with shorter turn-around times (3 ~ 4 weeks).

 

Ideally, you'd mail it in the same day you got a sixty-day stamp.

 

Not sure any office will provide a 30-day extension with 47 days on the clock?

 

Tricky situation.

 

I might consider leaving today, re-enter on a new 60 day stamp, then mail the DS-82 package.

 

[DrJack54]

44 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Not sure any office will provide a 30-day extension with 47 days on the clock?

Don't see why he cannot apply for the 30 day extension while the application for pp renewal is being processed.

 

[bamnutsak]

33 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Don't see why he cannot apply for the 30 day extension while the application for pp renewal is being processed.

 

 

For a U.S. passport renewal you have to submit your current passport. I do not think you can apply for an extension if you do not have your passport in hand.

[DrJack54]

51 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

For a U.S. passport renewal you have to submit your current passport.

For some reason I was under the impression that ONLINE renewal of passport for USA citizens is now possible. You mail the required forms and copies + payment but not the actual passport to embassy bangkok

No so?

 

Perhaps a USA person can update with recent experience 

[Phillip9]

7 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

For some reason I was under the impression that ONLINE renewal of passport for USA citizens is now possible. You mail the required forms and copies + payment but not the actual passport to embassy bangkok

No so?

 

Perhaps a USA person can update with recent experience 

 

If you are living in the USA, you can renew online, but if you are living in a foreign country you cannot.  In Thailand you have to mail your current passport to the embassy when you apply.

[bamnutsak]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

For some reason I was under the impression that ONLINE renewal of passport for USA citizens is now possible. You mail the required forms and copies + payment but not the actual passport to embassy bangkok

No so?

 

Perhaps a USA person can update with recent experience 

 

 

All the details are in the link to the thread you attached.

 

https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/passports/instructions-for-ds-82-processing-by-mail-and-online-fee-payment-for-u-s-citizens-residing-in-thailand/

 

 

[Glenn128]

On 11/24/2024 at 7:37 PM, DrJack54 said:

Which immigration office.

Some may do it early some/many will not.

Couple of weeks early is the norm.

An agent would be able to do it in the timeframe you indicate.

Which immigration office? 

Bangkok lak si. Do we know if they are agreeable to applying for the 30 day extension "early"?

[BrandonJT]

32 minutes ago, Glenn128 said:

Bangkok lak si. Do we know if they are agreeable to applying for the 30 day extension "early"?

 

In Bangkok you can apply for an extension when you have 45 days or less left on your current stamp.

[Phillip9]

2 minutes ago, BrandonJT said:

In Bangkok you can apply for an extension when you have 45 days or less left on your current stamp.

 

I think that rule is for doing non immigrant visa extensions which can take some time.  I don't think it applies to extending to visa exempt entries like the OP has.  Most offices will only allow that a couple of weeks before expiration.  

[DrJack54]

11 hours ago, Glenn128 said:

Do we know if they are agreeable to applying for the 30 day extension "early"?

You are referring to 30 day extension to visa exempt entry, hence LakSi.

Couple of weeks prior to expiry is the norm. 

You will need to have a TM30 

You could attend LakSi and plead your case (it's valid) or use agent. 

Think agents such as @ThaiVisaCentre can assist

[BrandonJT]

1 hour ago, Phillip9 said:

 

I think that rule is for doing non immigrant visa extensions which can take some time.  I don't think it applies to extending to visa exempt entries like the OP has.  Most offices will only allow that a couple of weeks before expiration.  

 

It's not the rule only for non immigration visas/extensions. It's the rule for all extensions in Bangkok. Both at Chaeng Watthana and Laksi. Tourism extension is no exception.  Both tourist visa and visa exempt can be extended when you have 45 days or less left.

[DrJack54]

3 hours ago, BrandonJT said:

Both tourist visa and visa exempt can be extended when you have 45 days or less left.

This is correct information.

 

The only caveat is that immigration can tell you to apply later (send you away.

The OP should attend LakSi when there is 45 or less days remaining on his permission of stay. 

Link for appointment LakSi

https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/onlineservice-and-publicguide/

[Glenn128]

On 11/26/2024 at 11:27 AM, DrJack54 said:

This is correct information.

 

The only caveat is that immigration can tell you to apply later (send you away.

The OP should attend LakSi when there is 45 or less days remaining on his permission of stay. 

Link for appointment LakSi

https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/onlineservice-and-publicguide/

Just to update, this information was accurate, as I went when I had 44 days remaining and was approved without hassle. Although, I did not use the link here for booking, and given that the line was much shorter that in the past (I was in and out in under an hour), I think an appointment wasn't necessary.

[Glenn128]

Final update: I received my new and old passport in the mail today, after having sent it out on 12/3, so it took just over 2 weeks, and if not for the holidays it would've been under 2 weeks. The whole process was hassle free, but I will just say that everyone doing this should pay close attention to look for the option for the larger book, which is a small checkbox at the top of the 2nd page and is easy to miss. I actually was about to mail it when I realized I had missed it, so just be sure to look for it.