Covid-19 Origin: Final Report, Select Subcommittee.

[dinsdale]

FINAL REPORT: COVID Select Concludes 2-Year Investigation, Issues 500+ Page Final Report on Lessons Learned and the Path Forward

COVID-19 ORIGIN: COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. The FIVE strongest arguments in favor of the “lab leak” theory include:

1. The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature.
2. Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events.
3. Wuhan is home to China’s foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain-of-function research at inadequate biosafety levels.
4. Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) researchers were sick with a COVID-like virus in the fall of 2019, months before COVID-19 was discovered at the wet market.
5. By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence of a natural origin it would have already surfaced.https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-select-concludes-2-year-investigation-issues-500-page-final-report-on-lessons-learned-and-the-path-forward/

[Patong2021]

POSTING IN EXTRA LARGE BOLD FONT DOES NOT ADD CREDIBILITY TO A BIASED OPINION

 

The report is authored by Republican  Representatives and  does not support the claim of a laboratory origin. The report is heavy on praise of  former President Trump's response such as a travel ban and the vaccine initiative. It is a regurgitation of several unsupported claims made during the pandemic.

 

Although it is possible that theremay have been a lab origin, what is ignored is that the same lab was studying samples taken from the  live animal markets where the disease is believed to have originated. The subcommittee Democrat members have dissented from some of the report conclusions saying the Republican members had failed to “shed meaningful light on the question of the COVID-19 pandemic’s origins.” The criticisms against Fauci  rane from “baseless to frivolous.”  “It was repeatedly explained to the Select Subcommittee that all prior epidemics and pandemics, as well as almost all prior outbreaks, have zoonotic origins."

 

[dinsdale]

3 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

POSTING IN EXTRA LARGE BOLD FONT DOES NOT ADD CREDIBILITY TO A BIASED OPINION

 

The report is authored by Republican  Representatives and  does not support the claim of a laboratory origin. The report is heavy on praise of  former President Trump's response such as a travel ban and the vaccine initiative. It is a regurgitation of several unsupported claims made during the pandemic.

 

Although it is possible that theremay have been a lab origin, what is ignored is that the same lab was studying samples taken from the  live animal markets where the disease is believed to have originated. The subcommittee Democrat members have dissented from some of the report conclusions saying the Republican members had failed to “shed meaningful light on the question of the COVID-19 pandemic’s origins.” The criticisms against Fauci  rane from “baseless to frivolous.”  “It was repeatedly explained to the Select Subcommittee that all prior epidemics and pandemics, as well as almost all prior outbreaks, have zoonotic origins."

 

Indeed. This is the point. This time around 

1. The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature.
2. Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events.
3. By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence of a natural origin it would have already surfaced.

[LosLobo]

The Republican-led committee, with Marjorie Taylor Greene leading the charge, isn’t about accountability—it’s a political smear job.

Blaming Fauci while ignoring Trump’s disastrous handling of the pandemic is far easier than confronting the real failures.

Instead of investigating, they’re spinning conspiracy theories like space lasers to avoid facing the truth.

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Indeed. This is the point. This time around 

1. The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature.
2. Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events.
3. By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence of a natural origin it would have already surfaced.

Scientists worldwide have indicated there is no definite answer to the origin. 

[dinsdale]

29 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Scientists worldwide have indicated there is no definite answer to the origin. 

It's not possible to give 100% certainty because of the destruction of data. Nothing to hide then why destroy the data? Also as stated there is no definitive evidence to prove it's zoonotic origin but this doesn't 100% rule it out. I think this sub-committee's findings will not be the end of this matter. 

[stevenl]

10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

It's not possible to give 100% certainty because of the destruction of data. Nothing to hide then why destroy the data? Also as stated there is no definitive evidence to prove it's zoonotic origin but this doesn't 100% rule it out. I think this sub-committee's findings will not be the end of this matter. 

They should be the end of it. We really don't need more partisan opinions.

[dinsdale]

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

They should be the end of it. We really don't need more partisan opinions.

It's a Congressional Hearing where people fronting it are under oath and which produced a 557 page report from numerous meetings, witnesses and depositions with "the Select Committee [having] bipartisan support across multiple topics.". You flippantly say it's partisan opinion which IMHO shows ignorance of the proceedings. Why don't you have a look through the actual report before responding with your next own partisan opinion. I'm fairly sure you won't look through the report though as it will challenge your set in stone opinion based on nothing more than what you have been told to believe from the legacy media.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/2024.12.04-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT-ANS.pdf

[stevenl]

10 hours ago, dinsdale said:

It's a Congressional Hearing where people fronting it are under oath and which produced a 557 page report from numerous meetings, witnesses and depositions with "the Select Committee [having] bipartisan support across multiple topics.". You flippantly say it's partisan opinion which IMHO shows ignorance of the proceedings. Why don't you have a look through the actual report before responding with your next own partisan opinion. I'm fairly sure you won't look through the report though as it will challenge your set in stone opinion based on nothing more than what you have been told to believe from the legacy media.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/2024.12.04-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT-ANS.pdf

I am always open to facts. This report doesn't present new facts.

 

Accusing people of having an opinion set in stone seems reflective of yourself.

[dinsdale]

5 hours ago, stevenl said:

I am always open to facts. This report doesn't present new facts.

 

Accusing people of having an opinion set in stone seems reflective of yourself.

I base my thoughts on rational thinking and on available evidence not what I'm told is the "truth". I don't believe in a god because that's not rational (it's a belief system) and there is no evidence of the existence of an almighty invisible being that created everything. On the other hand I think there has to be life of some sort or another in the universe. I don't base this on evidence because so far there is none but on rational thought. As with covid and it's origins, science and rational thought points very strongly towards a gain of function bat virus that leaked from the Wuhan lab. As I continue to post there is ZERO evidence of it being zoonotic and as such being otherwise to a lab leak.

[BangkokReady]

22 hours ago, stevenl said:

Scientists worldwide have indicated there is no definite answer to the origin. 

 

Which would be easier to believe if it weren't for so many clearly being biased in favour of China.

[Dcheech]

On 12/5/2024 at 5:37 PM, BangkokReady said:

Which would be easier to believe if it weren't for so many clearly being biased in favour of China.

So you have a running tally of scientists, & if they have shown a sino biases ... yeah Right.

Given China will not allow a free and impartial international investigation we are never going to know for sure. Secondly given this is a Republican document, I would not trust it, more to the point the world won't trust it. That is what happens when you become a party of Liars. It gets around.