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7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You guys started a war , don't complain because you are losing the war .

No ceasefire until the hostages have been released and until the Hamas war criminals have been brought to justice and conditions have been imposed so that you cannot attack Israel again .

   War isn't nice, so don't start one

 

I'd agree, if I thought the war started on October 7.  The current iteration started over a hundred years ago.  The war, perhaps as much as 3,000 years ago.

 

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3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    This current war started on Oct 7 th , that is the day that war was declared  . 

   There have been previous wars and hostilities in the region , but this current war was officially  declared on Oct 7 th .

   You can not try to pretend that the Hamas terror attack , war crimes and attempted genocide  by Hamas on Israel, wasn't the reason why this war is currently  happening 

 

That belief is why Israel will still be fighting in 100 years.  Unless Iran gets nukes...

 

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Just now, stevenl said:

This is not Palestinians claiming, this is amnesty international claiming, based on extensive research and sources.

You've not read the report you've just posted have you. Now go back and read it and look at the witnesses they interviewed in Gaza, the Palestinians making claims....:saai:

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Just now, impulse said:

 

That belief is why Israel will still be fighting in 100 years.  Unless Iran gets nukes...

 

Its a fact and also nothing to do with the topic.

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Where should the Jewish population go?. after all Hamas want them wiped off the face of the Earth...now that would be genocide, and one that the Jewish population suffered over 80 years ago

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Just now, impulse said:

 

That belief is why Israel will still be fighting in 100 years.  Unless Iran gets nukes...

 

 

   Its not a "belief", its a fact

 

"On the same day, the Israeli cabinet confirmed a state of war effective 6:00 a.m. on October 7, 2023. According to the government’s statement, “[t]he war that was forced on the State of Israel in a murderous terrorist assault from the Gaza Strip began at 06:00 yesterday (Saturday, 7 October 2023).” The decision was issued in accordance with section 40 of Basic Law: The Government, as amended."

 

 

https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2023-12-11/israel-government-declares-war-and-special-situation-on-home-front-following-october-7-hamas-attacks/#:~:text=Article Israel%3A Government Declares War,Following October 7 Hamas Attacks&text=Following the attack on Israel,and the war against Hamas.

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I'd agree, if I thought the war started on October 7.  The current iteration started over a hundred years ago.  The war, perhaps as much as 3,000 years ago.

 

Agree with you, but even then it's no excuse for the atrocities committed by the IDF and Israeli government.

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4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Its not a "belief", its a fact

 

"On the same day, the Israeli cabinet confirmed a state of war effective 6:00 a.m. on October 7, 2023. According to the government’s statement, “[t]he war that was forced on the State of Israel in a murderous terrorist assault from the Gaza Strip began at 06:00 yesterday (Saturday, 7 October 2023).” The decision was issued in accordance with section 40 of Basic Law: The Government, as amended."

 

 

https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2023-12-11/israel-government-declares-war-and-special-situation-on-home-front-following-october-7-hamas-attacks/#:~:text=Article Israel%3A Government Declares War,Following October 7 Hamas Attacks&text=Following the attack on Israel,and the war against Hamas.

 

 

 

Israel declaring it started that day doesn't mean it started that day.

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12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You've not read the report you've just posted have you. Now go back and read it and look at the witnesses they interviewed in Gaza, the Palestinians making claims....:saai:

I did read it, multiple times. 

Many, many non Palestinian sources.

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Just now, stevenl said:

Israel declaring it started that day doesn't mean it started that day.

Hamas declared it actually Operation Al-Aqsa Flood which started on 7th Oct. Fact.

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Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Pure unsubstantiated nonsense 

Denying it doesn't make it not true. The facts are there for those willing to see.

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12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
13 minutes ago, stevenl said:

This is not Palestinians claiming, this is amnesty international claiming, based on extensive research and sources.

You've not read the report you've just posted have you. Now go back and read it and look at the witnesses they interviewed in Gaza, the Palestinians making claims....:saai:

 

That's horse manure and selective vision. Better read the report yourself before casting aspersions eh?

 

"Amnesty International’s research report is based on interviews with more than 200 people, including Palestinian victims and witnesses, local authorities in Gaza, healthcare workers, extensive fieldwork, analysis of extensive visual and digital evidence, including satellite imagery, and analysis of statements by senior Israeli government and military officials, and official Israeli bodies."

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Just now, stevenl said:

I did read it, multiple times. 

Many, many non Palestinian sources.

Then you deliberately posted false information.

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4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Someone should have asked the same question about where the Palestinians should go, when the Brits sold them out...  With the support of the Americans.

 

 

 

   The question was indeed asked and it was decided that Palestinians should have their own Country called Palestine .

   One Country called Palestine 

Another Country called Israel .

Israel accepted the offer of having their own Country

Palestine rejected the offer of their own Country 

That is why there is a Country called Israel and there isn't a Country called Palestine .

   Palestinians rejected the offer of having their own country 

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1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

If they keep murdering innocent women and children they should go to hell.

If that is true, they will, yes? 

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Just now, stevenl said:

Denying it doesn't make it not true. The facts are there for those willing to see.

So add some links to all those claims then. I'll wait

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1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Then you deliberately posted false information.

You're posting falsely here.

 

"Amnesty International’s research report is based on interviews with more than 200 people, including Palestinian victims and witnesses, local authorities in Gaza, healthcare workers, extensive fieldwork, analysis of extensive visual and digital evidence, including satellite imagery, and analysis of statements by senior Israeli government and military officials, and official Israeli bodies."

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1 minute ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

 

That's horse manure and selective vision. Better read the report yourself before casting aspersions eh?

 

"Amnesty International’s research report is based on interviews with more than 200 people, including Palestinian victims and witnesses, local authorities in Gaza, healthcare workers, extensive fieldwork, analysis of extensive visual and digital evidence, including satellite imagery, and analysis of statements by senior Israeli government and military officials, and official Israeli bodies."

I know I read it. I agree its total horse manure

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1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

So add some links to all those claims then. I'll wait

Read the report.

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