Starmer Defends Decision to Deny Compensation for Waspi Women Amid Backlash

[Seppius]

Kudos's to Diane Abbot (never thought I would say that)

 

 

 

Hard to argue with anything in this link

 

https://brexitbites.quora.com/Labour-s-Broken-Promises

[JonnyF]

Rayner was telling porkies as well.

 

What a surprise.

 

Seems they are all liars. 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, roquefort said:

Oh, so they can tell all the bare-faced lies they want as long as they're not in the manifesto?

What a bizarre view of political integrity.

Odd logic.

[herfiehandbag]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s only a U-Turn if it’s a retreat from a Manifesto pledge or a policy that is announced while in Government.

 

It’s not a U-Turn.

Fornicate with my ancient military footwear - you really are struggling on this one aren't you Chomper!

[scottiejohn]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s only a U-Turn if it’s a retreat from a Manifesto pledge or a policy that is announced while in Government.

Who says, apart from you?

[scottiejohn]

5 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

He will be gone within 12 months.

Let us hope so along with R from accounts!

[Chomper Higgot]

40 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Fornicate with my ancient military footwear - you really are struggling on this one aren't you Chomper!

Not at all.

 

That so many here are unaware (perhaps deliberately so) that Governments are elected to deliver their manifesto is something of a surprise.

 

But then the UK is nation I which people choose to stop working before they reach their retirement age and then expect t to be compensated when it turns out they got their math wrong.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

21 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Who says, apart from you?

Governments stand for election on the basis of their manifesto.

 

It’s why, for example, the House of Lords doesn’t get to prevent legislation that is in the Government’s manifesto, it’s what the electorate voted for.

 

You might recall the Salisbury convention from back when you were learning how your Government functions.

 

 

[scottiejohn]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Governments stand for election on the basis of their manifesto.

 

It’s why, for example, the House of Lords doesn’t get to prevent legislation that is in the Government’s manifesto, it’s what the electorate voted for.

 

You might recall the Salisbury convention from back when you were learning how your Government functions.

 

 

I suggest that you try answering questions without pointless waffle!

[PETERTHEEATER]

2 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

 

It cannot be long before any Pro-Labour agendas are put to the side.

 

Here is Rachel from Customer Complaints

 

 

 

A Labour Minster by the name of Tulip Siddiqi and her family, are currently under investigation for their part in £4 Billion worth of bribes related to a Nuclear Power Plant.

 

Clear and transparent Keir will get to the bottom of it and it will be move along, nothing to see here.

Oooh! 🤭

[mokwit]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s only a U-Turn if it’s a retreat from a Manifesto pledge or a policy that is announced while in Government.

 

It’s not a U-Turn.

Rubbish. It is disgusting dishonesty. Starmer, Rayner Reeves and Cooper were all saying they would support it as a way of projecting an image of themselves as politicians and their party. Footage of them actually with the campaigners so that their support was widely disseminated. Just more evidence of them saying anything to try and garner popularity when in opposition. Same with taking care of pensioners and then cutting the winter fuel allowance, or are you going to tell me nobody will be affected if they are only paying it via a payment to those eligible for pension credits.

 

The problem with these people is that there are too many things that weren't in the manifesto and should have been.

 

These people are without a moral compass, but then that is the problem with the Left.

[mokwit]

31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not at all.

 

That so many here are unaware (perhaps deliberately so) that Governments are elected to deliver their manifesto is something of a surprise.

 

But then the UK is nation I which people choose to stop working before they reach their retirement age and then expect t to be compensated when it turns out they got their math wrong.

 

 

Where was it in the Blair Government manifesto that they were going to open the floodgates to mass immigration and top down enforced multiculturalism?. A Labour manifesto means NOTHING.

[The Cyclist]

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Where was it in the Blair Government manifesto that they were going to open the floodgates to mass immigration and top down enforced multiculturalism?. A Labour manifesto means NOTHING.

 

Manifesto's are worthless. Hence there is currently a push to make them legally binding.

 

Now that would be worth voting for.

[mokwit]

19 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Manifesto's are worthless. Hence there is currently a push to make them legally binding.

 

Now that would be worth voting for.

Agree. They are not supposed to be deliberate deception to get elected and then get down to what they really had planned (sounds familiar).

[mokwit]

12 hours ago, Social Media said:

Starmer acknowledged the frustrations of women affected by changes to their retirement age but maintained that meeting their demands would not be financially viable.

GBP 22bn for Millibrand to siphon off amongst his cronies is though, along with other multibillion gifts.

[mokwit]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

No wonder the BBC are refusing to play it. Doesn't really sit well with their Pro-Labour agenda. 😃

 

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1990410/bbc-christmas-slammed-gb-news-Patrick-Christys

 

 

There is no reason not to play this other than totalitarian political control to control the image of the Dear Leader.

 

[mokwit]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What was in the Manifesto on which Labour were elected?

 

 

Lies and omissions, clearly.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

I suggest that you try answering questions without pointless waffle!

I’m truly shocked you don’t understand the part manifestos play in Elections and Government.

 

 

[mokwit]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m truly shocked you don’t understand the part manifestos play in Elections and Government.

 

 

As far as Labour Governments are concerned the part manifestos play in election and Government is very clear, it is just some BS you come out with to sound good to the electorate and then you just get on with what you really had planned that wouldn't have got you elected.

[Chomper Higgot]

44 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Where was it in the Blair Government manifesto that they were going to open the floodgates to mass immigration and top down enforced multiculturalism?. A Labour manifesto means NOTHING.

Now you demonstrate your ignorance of the fact Governments can choose to do more than what’s in their manifesto.

 

Doing more than what’s in a manifesto is not a U-turn or a lie either.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, mokwit said:

As far as Labour Governments are concerned the part manifestos play in election and Government is very clear, it is just some BS you come out with to sound good to the electorate and then you just get on with what you really had planned that wouldn't have got you elected.

In the absence of something that is based on the facts of the part manifestos have in Elections and Government you come out with this baseless assertion.

 

I guess it’s an improvement over some ripped meme, but only just.

[scottiejohn]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m truly shocked you don’t understand the part manifestos play in Elections and Government.

I’m truly shocked you don’t understand the part manifestos play in Elections and Government. And the promises made by politicians prior to the election!

 

If the election was based on just the manifesto there would be no need for any pre election political broadcasts, TV debates, town hall meetings etc.

 

Just send out your manifesto and sit back and do nothing.

Of course the manifesto would need to have a disclaimer which said "please ignore/disregard any promises/pledges made by either myself or any member of my party on any and all media!"

[mokwit]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Now you demonstrate your ignorance of the fact Governments can choose to do more than what’s in their manifesto.

 

Doing more than what’s in a manifesto is not a U-turn or a lie either.

'Governments can choose to do more than what’s in their manifesto.'

 

Appalling dishonesty machnations and backflips from you. It was a planned strategy that was DELIBERATELY withheld from the public as it would not be popular. The intention to rub the Tories (and the electorates) noses in diversity was only talked about in private.

[mokwit]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

In the absence of something that is based on the facts of the part manifestos have in Elections and Government you come out with this baseless assertion.

 

I guess it’s an improvement over some ripped meme, but only just.

Hardly a baseless assertion based on what has already gone down. You are saying Governments can choose to more than what's in the manifesto and then saying only what was in the letter of the manifesto counts. You can't have it both ways, you can't play both ends against the middle (jaab plaa song muua).

[mokwit]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I guess it’s an improvement over some ripped meme, but only just.

You really have some kind of problem with 'ripped memes' - a bit rich coming from the biggest NPC on this board - all you do is spout what Leftie Central puts out there.

 

Face it you are defending LIARS.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Hardly a baseless assertion based on what has already gone down. You are saying Governments can choose to more than what's in the manifesto and then saying only what was in the letter manifesto counts. You can't have it both ways, you can't play both ends against the middle (jaab plaa song muua).

A misrepresentation of my comments, at no time have I said ‘only what was in their manifesto counts’.

 

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s only a U-Turn if it’s a retreat from a Manifesto pledge or a policy that is announced while in Government.

 

It’s not a U-Turn.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

You really have some kind of problem with 'ripped memes' - a bit rich coming from the biggest NPC on this board - all you do is spout what Leftie Central puts out there.

 

Face it you are defending LIARS.

 

I have no problem with ripped memes, they are a clear indication that the user is suffering an inability to think for themselves.

 

NPC?

 

 

[mokwit]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

A misrepresentation of my comments, at no time have I said ‘only what was in their manifesto counts’.

 

 

You are clearly positing that what is in the manifesto counts when it suits your cause e.g. trying defend a POLICY U TURN.

[The Cyclist]

47 minutes ago, mokwit said:

 

There is no reason not to play this other than totalitarian political control to control the image of the Dear Leader.

 

 

 

Some of the Politburo are not happy with the Dear Leader

 

Quote

Up to 100 Labour MPs could vote against the government’s decision to rule out spending £10bn compensating Waspi women if a vote is held, encapsulating the fury on Keir Starmer’s own benches, the Guardian has been told.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/18/up-to-100-labour-mps-could-vote-against-waspi-payout-refusal

 

He might need to employ a food taster.

[mokwit]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I have no problem with ripped memes, they are a clear indication that the user is suffering an inability to think for themselves.

 

NPC?

 

 

 

 

Non Player Character - basically used to describe someone who can't think for themselves.

 

Following the analogy of non-player characters, the NPC meme is used to mock individuals the maker perceives as lacking introspection, individual opinions, or critical thinking, generally political opponents.

 

NPC (meme) - Wikipedia

Wikipedia

 

 

It is not me who can't think for themselves, I just use memes to save typing or to enhance/illustrate a point, or for fun. the board can judge this for themselves.