Social Media Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 A routine Christmas Day traffic stop in Buenos Aires escalated into a diplomatic dispute when two Russian diplomats refused to comply with police requests, citing immunity under international law. The incident has drawn attention from both Argentine and Russian officials, sparking debate over the limits of diplomatic privileges and local legal obligations. The events unfolded in the affluent neighborhood of Recoleta, where a man driving a car with a diplomatic license plate was stopped by police at around 10:45 a.m. The driver refused to present identification, exit the vehicle, or take a breathalyzer test. The standoff lasted over an hour, attracting the attention of television reporters covering traffic stops, a routine Christmas feature in the area. The situation became more complex when bystanders attempted to intervene. A Russian-speaking passerby tried to mediate, while a self-proclaimed Russian-Spanish translator and lawyer arrived after seeing the incident on TV, calling the detention improper. Despite the commotion, members of the Federal Police’s diplomatic security department eventually escorted the man and his vehicle back to the Russian embassy. A similar episode occurred shortly afterward when another Russian diplomat driving a vehicle with diplomatic plates also refused to comply with police requests. Like the first, this individual was escorted to the embassy without incident. At 1:30 p.m., a representative identifying himself as a secretary from the Russian embassy addressed reporters outside the embassy. Citing the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, he claimed that diplomatic vehicles are exempt from stops, searches, or seizures, labeling the traffic stops a "serious violation of international law." The Vienna Convention indeed protects diplomats and their property, allowing them freedom of movement and immunity from arrest or detention unless they commit a serious crime. However, Article 41 of the convention states that diplomats must respect the laws and regulations of their host country, provided it does not hinder their official duties. The Russian embassy later submitted a formal complaint to Argentina's Foreign Ministry, urging measures to prevent future incidents and suggesting that such situations could be exploited by detractors of Russian-Argentine relations. Complicating matters, a 2022 memorandum from the Argentine Foreign Ministry explicitly reminded diplomats to comply with local traffic laws, warning that violations could result in fines and towing of vehicles. This communiqué had been issued after public complaints about irregularities involving vehicles with diplomatic plates. While some argued that the police actions were appropriate, others raised concerns about potential overreach. Deputy Marcela Pagano, of the ruling coalition La Libertad Avanza (LLA), filed a complaint accusing Buenos Aires City traffic officials of "abuse of authority" and failing to fulfill their public duties. Pagano pointed to Article 31 of the Vienna Convention, which protects diplomatic property from searches, and suggested the traffic stop’s proximity to the embassy might have been a deliberate provocation. However, former Argentine ambassador to China Diego Guelar dismissed these claims, asserting that the Vienna Convention was not violated. “Diplomats must comply with local legislation, identify themselves, and provide vehicle documentation,” he wrote on X (formerly Twitter), adding that the Russian embassy should simply pay any fines incurred. As the controversy continues, a spokesperson for the Argentine government characterized the incident as a minor administrative matter, unlikely to escalate further. “This was simply a discussion on diplomatic immunity and the circumstances of the detentions, nothing more,” said Presidential spokesman Manuel Adorni. Despite the tensions, the Argentine Foreign Ministry has yet to make an official statement, leaving the matter unresolved as legal and diplomatic discussions unfold. The situation underscores the delicate balance between respecting diplomatic immunity and enforcing local laws, a challenge that countries hosting foreign diplomats regularly navigate. Based on a report by the Buenos Aires Herald 2024-12-28 1 1
Popular Post harryviking Posted December 27, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2024 Argentina! You do not need these Russian thugs at all! Throw them out of your country. They are mostly spies and criminals sent by the worst evil man today, PUTIN!! 4 2 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 28, 2024 They were rushing to get back to the Embassy and get some real drugs.......lol This from AP: 2018 Argentinian police seize nearly 400 kilos of cocaine from the Russian embassy in Buenos Aires 1 1 2
Popular Post Watawattana Posted December 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 28, 2024 I do understand the basics of diplomatic immunity, but still cannot understand why that can be used as an excuse for blatant law breaking and fine avoidance. That said, I have read that a lot of foreign embassies pay parking fines etc. One example I found was: "Japanese diplomats do have diplomatic immunity, which generally protects them from local laws, including parking regulations. However, the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has been working to address the issue of illegal parking by diplomatic missions. They have implemented measures to ensure that diplomats comply with local traffic laws and pay any fines incurred". Would be nice if the Russians did this too, but I suspect there are many diplomats from other countries who behave arrogantly as they have immunity. 3
bendejo Posted December 28, 2024 Posted December 28, 2024 At the routine traffic stop if he whipped out a US$20 note he would have been out of there with a wave of the hand. But there may be something else involved, like LE knew where the stop would lead, I mean, checkpoints on Xmas? There's no way to know for sure, but I am curious as to which country the coke was headed to.
Popular Post Emdog Posted December 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 28, 2024 Legit to ask for ID etc from those in auto. A car with diplomatic plates could be stolen.... I have read about the amazing hassle NY cops have what with UN being there, as scads of diplo's use immunity with impunity.... park anywhere, drive any way Then there was that incident in UK where wife of US diplomat killed a bicyclist (I think) due to bad driving and was scooted out of the country ASAP to avoid legal consequences... Here in Thailand seems the rich and/or powerful have a local equivalent to diplomatic immunity... see Red Bull, van crash, etc 1 1 1
Popular Post Watawattana Posted December 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, bendejo said: checkpoints on Xmas? UK police often have a Christmas crack down to detect/deter drink driving as that's such a killer, so no big surprise that the Argentinian police would do this. Maybe the Thai police could learn a thing or 2 from this? 1 3
Popular Post Watawattana Posted December 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, Emdog said: Then there was that incident in UK where wife of US diplomat killed a bicyclist (I think) due to bad driving and was scooted out of the country ASAP to avoid legal consequences... It was a guy called Harry Dunn who died. Was on a motorcycle (not meaning to be critical of your post, your point is very well made in any case). The woman who killed him is called Anne Sacoolas. The evidence as I understand it was that she made a massive mistake; it was not deliberate. She drove on the American side of the road rather than the British. Tons of people will have done this (and vice versa) with little consequence. Not this time. RIP Harry. 1 1 1
Patong2021 Posted December 28, 2024 Posted December 28, 2024 The issue is that the Russian was most likely drunk. Russia has a serious problem with alcohol abuse with many of its embassy workers. 1 1
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