Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on

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" I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program,” added Trump, who restricted access to foreign worker visas in his first administration and has been critical of the program in the past."

https://nypost.com/2024/12/28/us-news/donald-trump-backs-h-1b-visa-program-supported-by-elon-musk/

 

The Pope has spoken.

[Yagoda]

Healthy debate in a party is good.

[G_Money]

They are needed due to the liberal education systems lack of priorities in education.

 

Woke, critical race theory, drag queens, minors gender reassignment over math, science and history.

 

Along with the basics of reading, writing and arithmetic.

 

Indian and Chinese surpass American students in these categories.

 

 

[mdr224]

6 minutes ago, G_Money said:

They are needed due to the liberal education systems lack of priorities in education.

 

Woke, critical race theory, drag queens, minors gender reassignment over math, science and history.

 

Along with the basics of reading, writing and arithmetic.

 

Indian and Chinese surpass American students in these categories.

 

 

Education in america is scarier the higher up you go. Currently im weighing the pros and cons between education here and in thailand

[G_Money]

This is part of the reason why H1B visas are needed.

 

 

 

 

[G_Money]

12 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Education in america is scarier the higher up you go. Currently im weighing the pros and cons between education here and in thailand

Agreed.  Just read Walkers Posts.

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43 minutes ago, G_Money said:

They are needed due to the liberal education systems lack of priorities in education.

 

Woke, critical race theory, drag queens, minors gender reassignment over math, science and history.

 

Along with the basics of reading, writing and arithmetic.

 

Indian and Chinese surpass American students in these categories.

 

 

 

36 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Education in america is scarier the higher up you go. Currently im weighing the pros and cons between education here and in thailand

The Pope has spoken and all the true believers fall into line.

[G_Money]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

 

The Pope has spoken and all the true believers fall into line.

Are you Catholic?

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1 minute ago, G_Money said:

Are you Catholic?

Why do you want to know? Are you looking for somebody to pray for you?

[G_Money]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Why do you want to know? Are you looking for somebody to pray for you?

As I recall you mentioned the Pope.

 

Did you need a divine intervention to help you deal with your agony over Trump winning the election?

[Will B Good]

54 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Healthy debate in a party is good.

 

Can't beat a good, healthy debate......

 

When confronted by a MAGA supporters opposing the H-1B program, Musk retorted bluntly, “F**k yourself.”

 

“The ‘contemptible fools’ I’m referring to are those in the Republican Party who are hateful, unrepentant racists. They will absolutely be the downfall of the Republican Party if they are not removed.”

[Will B Good]

8 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Are you Catholic?

 

Does the Pope s**t in the woods?

[John Drake]

I'm guessing Trump is either lying or doesn't know what he is talking about. Or both. It's known he uses H2B workers. But I don't see where anything he does would fit for H1Bs. If he's putting his landscapers on H1Bs, he's breaking the law.

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17 minutes ago, G_Money said:

As I recall you mentioned the Pope.

 

Did you need a divine intervention to help you deal with your agony over Trump winning the election?

Re the pope reference: no way of telling whether or not you are feigning being obtuse. As for rest, the kind of mind-reading act resorted to by  those who find facts daunting..

[mokwit]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

They are needed due to the liberal education systems lack of priorities in education.

 

Woke, critical race theory, drag queens, minors gender reassignment over math, science and history.

 

Along with the basics of reading, writing and arithmetic.

 

Indian and Chinese surpass American students in these categories.

 

 

You are accusing anyone who doesn't like H1B visas as being a sore loser Democrat whereas much of the anger is from Trump supporters as far as I can tell [Democrats using this to try and drive a wedge between Republicans and Republicans and their supporters doesn't make this not a fact.]

 

I don't think Trump supporters whose children were supposedly rendered uncompetitive the school system appreciate the stab in the back on H1B visas which are being abused. You seem to think H1B visa is the same as the Extreme ability O1. The database is searchable and people are not liking what they are seeing. Basically people who are doing a job an American could be doing but for less - wage level not skill level. They hire them because they can be made to put up with anything rather than lose job and thus residency and the shot at US citizenship. Look who Musk kept on at X for his work all hours new regime. 

 

[Yagoda]

23 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Can't beat a good, healthy debate......

 

When confronted by a MAGA supporters opposing the H-1B program, Musk retorted bluntly, “F**k yourself.”

 

“The ‘contemptible fools’ I’m referring to are those in the Republican Party who are hateful, unrepentant racists. They will absolutely be the downfall of the Republican Party if they are not removed.”

I say F U to racists too. No sense having Republicans that think like Socialist Democrats.

[OneMoreFarang]

From here:

Vivek Ramaswamy claims American culture has championed ‘mediocrity over excellence’ for too long

 

In a lengthy post to X, Ramaswamy blamed decadeslong cultural trends as the reason “top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over ‘native’ Americans.” He argued that the decline of U.S. citizens choosing to pursue engineering stemmed from kids growing up in a lazy, culture that has long promoted “the prom queen over the math olympiad champ” and “the jock over the valedictorian.”

 

I am looking forward to the fight between the rich and smart and the stupid MAGA crowd. There is not much they agree on. It's just a question of time before they will be on each other's throat. And Trump is in the middle. Let's get the popcorn out and enjoy the show. 

 

[Yagoda]

34 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 

The Pope has spoken and all the true believers fall into line.

Sorry, the Pope got his beliefs from me

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

From here:

Vivek Ramaswamy claims American culture has championed ‘mediocrity over excellence’ for too long

 

In a lengthy post to X, Ramaswamy blamed decadeslong cultural trends as the reason “top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over ‘native’ Americans.” He argued that the decline of U.S. citizens choosing to pursue engineering stemmed from kids growing up in a lazy, culture that has long promoted “the prom queen over the math olympiad champ” and “the jock over the valedictorian.”

 

I am looking forward to the fight between the rich and smart and the stupid MAGA crowd. There is not much they agree on. It's just a question of time before they will be on each other's throat. And Trump is in the middle. Let's get the popcorn out and enjoy the show. 

 

Yeah only Democrats have an entire party of geniuses.

 

Vivek is right. If my kid was of school age again, she would be in a vetted private school.

[OneMoreFarang]

3 minutes ago, John Drake said:

I'm guessing Trump is either lying or doesn't know what he is talking about. Or both. It's known he uses H2B workers. But I don't see where anything he does would fit for H1Bs. If he's putting his landscapers on H1Bs, he's breaking the law.

He tells everybody what they like to hear.

The problem for him is that he hasn't discovered yet that what he says is often recorded and they others see it as well. That makes it difficult to promise everybody something different.

The good part for Trump is that many of his supporters are just too stupid and/or ignorant to understand this. 

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

I say F U to racists too. No sense having Republicans that think like Socialist Democrats.

 

Agree...let's root out these Republican racists......Bobert, Greene, Cruz.....good start?

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Sorry, the Pope got his beliefs from me

 

That could explain a lot.

[G_Money]

7 minutes ago, mokwit said:

You are accusing anyone who doesn't like H1B visas as being a sore loser Democrat whereas much of the anger is from Trump supporters as far as I can tell [Democrats using this to try and drive a wedge between Republicans and Republicans and their supporters doesn't make this not a fact.]

 

I don't think Trump supporters whose children were supposedly rendered uncompetitive the school system appreciate the stab in the back on H1B visas which are being abused. You seem to think H1B visa is the same as the Extreme ability O1. The database is searchable and people are not liking what they are seeing. Basically people who are doing a job an American could be doing but for less - wage level not skill level. They hire them because they can be made to put up with anything rather than lose job and thus residency and the shot at US citizenship. Look who Musk kept on at X for his work all hours new regime. 

 

You are posting lies I never said.

 

Go back and read my post slowly.  2 or 3  times if needed for you to comprehend.

 

Then quote your claim of “ sore loser “ from my text.

[John Drake]

3 minutes ago, mokwit said:

You are accusing anyone who doesn't like H1B visas as being a sore loser Democrat whereas much of the anger is from Trump supporters as far as I can tell [Democrats using this to try and drive a wedge between Republicans and Republicans and their supporters doesn't make this not a fact.]

 

I don't think Trump supporters whose children were supposedly rendered uncompetitive the school system appreciate the stab in the back on H1B visas which are being abused. You seem to think H1B visa is the same as the Extreme ability O1. The database is searchable and people are not liking what they are seeing. Basically people who are doing a job an American could be doing but for less - wage level not skill level. They hire them because they can be made to put up with anything rather than lose job and thus residency and the shot at US citizenship. Look who Musk kept on at X for his work all hours new regime. 

 

 

This is the crux of it. Sentiment against H1Bs goes across party affiliations. Both Republicans and Democrats hate it. And now we have Elon and Vivek also insulting Americans. Both call Americans lazy who don't want to work 80 hour weeks, with a $60,000 salary, tied to your employer, no sick time, no holidays, and, in some cases, living 10 to 12 people to an apartment. Meanwhile, Vivek and Musk also lecture about the need for math, more math, engineering, more engineering students with after school tutoring. While also criticizing Americans for falling behind in the replacement birthrate. Sure, as if Elon's ideal work slave would even have time to get married, buy a house, and start a family. Frankly, the world these two want for America sounds grim and sterile and joyless.

[G_Money]

30 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Does the Pope s**t in the woods?

I’ve never witnessed this.  Have you?

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Agree...let's root out these Republican racists......Bobert, Greene, Cruz.....good start?

Well since you apparently pulled the names out of your Socialist playbook, tell us how the foregoing are racist.

 

This should be good, give us the last gasps of the DEI fantasy

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, John Drake said:

 

This is the crux of it. Sentiment against H1Bs goes across party affiliations. Both Republicans and Democrats hate it. And now we have Elon and Vivek also insulting Americans. Both call Americans lazy who don't want to work 80 hour weeks, with a $60,000 salary, tied to your employer, no sick time, no holidays, and, in some cases, living 10 to 12 people to an apartment. Meanwhile, Vivek and Musk also lecture about the need for math, more math, engineering, more engineering students with after school tutoring. While also criticizing Americans for falling behind in the replacement birthrate. Sure, as if Elon's ideal work slave would even have time to get married, buy a house, and start a family. Frankly, the world these two want for America sounds grim and sterile and joyless.

 

You might go so far as to say those two come across as a pair r*****s.

[John Drake]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He tells everybody what they like to hear.

The problem for him is that he hasn't discovered yet that what he says is often recorded and they others see it as well. That makes it difficult to promise everybody something different.

The good part for Trump is that many of his supporters are just too stupid and/or ignorant to understand this. 

 

Simply untrustworthy, which is why I couldn't vote for him.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

I’ve never witnessed this.  Have you?

 

Did know a Sid Pope....worked for my dad.....but...no, never saw him do anything like that.

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

That could explain a lot.

Yes...decency, humility, let me know if you need more help...