Trump on Immigration: "We need a lot of people coming in."

[spidermike007]

He is correct, there's a huge difference between enforcing the borders and keeping illegal immigrants out and granting visas to those who are highly skilled, and those who are unwilling to make that distinction are simply buying into slogans and not doing enough research. America needs highly skilled laborers and the current quota system holds the nation back. 

 

The H-1B visa program plays a critical role in the U.S. economy, allowing American companies to hire highly skilled foreign workers in specialized occupations. 

 

The position must require theoretical and practical application of specialized knowledge, typically requiring at least a bachelor’s degree.

 

Specialty Occupation: The job offered must qualify as a “specialty occupation” requiring:

A deep understanding of complex concepts (theory) and the ability to implement that knowledge to solve real-world problems (practice).

 

At least a bachelor’s degree (or something similar) in a subject directly connected to the role.

 

https://www.boundless.com/immigration-resources/the-h-1b-visa-explained/

[John Drake]

2 minutes ago, Gobbler said:

You forgot the word "Legally."

 

We need skilled immigrants, not criminals, who know nothing that is pouring across the border.  19 days. 

 

Well, then you'll not object to an immigration amnesty then, because that makes it all leeegal, right?

[John Drake]

8 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

He is correct, there's a huge difference between enforcing the borders and keeping illegal immigrants out and granting visas to those who are highly skilled, and those who are unwilling to make that distinction are simply buying into slogans and not doing enough research. America needs highly skilled laborers and the current quota system holds the nation back. 

 

The H-1B visa program plays a critical role in the U.S. economy, allowing American companies to hire highly skilled foreign workers in specialized occupations. 

 

The position must require theoretical and practical application of specialized knowledge, typically requiring at least a bachelor’s degree.

 

Specialty Occupation: The job offered must qualify as a “specialty occupation” requiring:

A deep understanding of complex concepts (theory) and the ability to implement that knowledge to solve real-world problems (practice).

 

At least a bachelor’s degree (or something similar) in a subject directly connected to the role.

 

https://www.boundless.com/immigration-resources/the-h-1b-visa-explained/

 

Seems these people in Austin were qualified enough to be working for Tesla, until Elon fired them all and replaced them with H1Bs.  https://electrek.co/2024/12/30/tesla-replaced-laid-off-us-workers-with-foreign-workers-using-h-1b-visas-that-musk-want-to-increase/

[SenorTashi]

[Will B Good]

6 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Seems these people in Austin were qualified enough to be working for Tesla, until Elon fired them all and replaced them with H1Bs.  https://electrek.co/2024/12/30/tesla-replaced-laid-off-us-workers-with-foreign-workers-using-h-1b-visas-that-musk-want-to-increase/

 

If these positions were focussed on quality assurance maybe Musk is doing the right thing?

[proton]

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

but he wanted /wants to expel ALL immigrants and close the borders   🤫🤔

 

No he never said that, he wants to expel ALL illegal immigrants, just like Obama did and Biden/Harris should have. He wants people who are legal and a benefit, not criminals, low lifes who are a drain

[John Drake]

3 minutes ago, SenorTashi said:

 

I guess this is what it looks like when you've successfully pulled the wool over Maga's eyes and used them to vote for you so you don't go to prison.

[John Drake]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

If these positions were focussed on quality assurance maybe Musk is doing the right thing?

 

Yep. Without a doubt replacing American workers with Indian H1Bs must have improved quality assurance. Just like it did for Boeing.

[proton]

1 minute ago, John Drake said:

 

I guess this is what it looks like when you've successfully pulled the wool over Maga's eyes and used them to vote for you so you don't go to prison.

 

So over 70 million Americans are 'Maga" ?  thats democracy for you then

[John Drake]

Just now, proton said:

 

So over 70 million Americans are 'Maga" ?  thats democracy for you then

 

You got him elected. You should be happy. I know the Indian H1Bs are. What you want to bet, now, you'll never hear anything about the Kennedy files, the Epstein list, and all the other stuff you were promised. Oh, yea, you got Mike Johnson officially endorsed by Trump, too. I think you're going to really get tired of winning, if this keeps up. 

[SenorTashi]

1 minute ago, John Drake said:

 

you'll never hear anything about the Kennedy files, the Epstein list, and all the other stuff you were promised. 

I've been saying that all along. Apparently people these days have never heard of politicians making false promises to get elected

[SenorTashi]

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

I criticized Trump, Joe, her, and Walz enough, leading up to the election. Doesn't mean I now need to play dumb about what has been obvious ever since Elon started meddling in the budget extension.

I don't support any of them. I just can't help noticing bs when I see it. 

[blaze master]

18 minutes ago, proton said:

 

No he never said that, he wants to expel ALL illegal immigrants, just like Obama did and Biden/Harris should have. He wants people who are legal and a benefit, not criminals, low lifes who are a drain

 

Don't let that stop posters in here from continuing to say all immigrants like good sheep repeating talking points. 

[Will B Good]

24 minutes ago, proton said:

 

No he never said that, he wants to expel ALL illegal immigrants, just like Obama did and Biden/Harris should have. He wants people who are legal and a benefit, not criminals, low lifes who are a drain

Both Obama and Biden repatriated significantly more illegal and undocumented immigrants than Trump ever did.

[Gobbler]

51 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Well, then you'll not object to an immigration amnesty then, because that makes it all leeegal, right?

No.  

[spidermike007]

56 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Seems these people in Austin were qualified enough to be working for Tesla, until Elon fired them all and replaced them with H1Bs.  https://electrek.co/2024/12/30/tesla-replaced-laid-off-us-workers-with-foreign-workers-using-h-1b-visas-that-musk-want-to-increase/

Alot of hypocritical people out there. Sincerity is the last quality one can expect from big Don and his neophytes. If they say one thing, they mean another. It is always about the money. Never about the common folk.

 

It is quite possible that both Trump and Musk are the least charitable people in the history of mankind relative to their wealth. 

[SenorTashi]

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump and Musk are the least charitable people in the history of mankind

What should they do, give it all to BLM or something? 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

one which provides a full transcript

Since when does Trump say what he was supposed to say?

Do you really expect from me to spend time listening to that guy to find what you didn't hear when it was in the news?

No, I am not going to do your homework.

If you don't believe it, I don't care.

[spidermike007]

4 minutes ago, SenorTashi said:

What should they do, give it all to BLM or something? 

There are a lot of very worthy charitable causes out there these days, and alot of need. With wealth comes a tremendous responsibility to try to do some good in this world, those who don't are merely grinches trying to hold onto every last dollar. Nothing attractive about that. Just legendary levels of self-absorption is all that is. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

Sadly for the left, I dont think he means we need more Tren de Aragua or fentanyl smugglers. He's talking about qualified LEGSL immigrants that bring benefits such as skills or entrepreneurship which creates jobs etc

 

Why o why cant the left distinguish between illegal and legal migration?

[Gecko123]

I'm wondering if the Republican party is waking up to the fact that Donald Trump is effectively a lame duck president from day one as he cannot run again, and his ability to coerce Republicans into towing the MAGA line is far less than he imagined, as witnessed when he tried to coerce the Republicans into eliminating the debt ceiling for two years. Also many Republicans are fiscal hawks, so Trump's tax cutting and spare no expense on deportations "mandate" is going to run into a lot of headwinds. So if you can't get a tax cut proposal through, the only thing left is trying to cut back entitlements, which makes many Republicans very skittish about the 2026 and 2028 elections. Another thing: lawmakers taking orders from an unelected autocratic arrogant narcissist is not a good look, and I sense an undercurrent of rebellion brewing on this front as well.

[SenorTashi]

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There are a lot of very worthy charitable causes out there 

Compared to a lot of people in the world, you're a rich guy,

so why aren't you spending all your time and money on helping the poor people?

[NoDisplayName]

27 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Since when does Trump say what he was supposed to say?

Do you really expect from me to spend time listening to that guy to find what you didn't hear when it was in the news?

No, I am not going to do your homework.

If you don't believe it, I don't care.

 

The point is Trump didn't say what your friends told you the MSM reporters said he said. 

 

I'm not asking you to do my homework, I'm asking you to do yours.

 

You're claiming Trump said it, and I don't believe you.

 

It's up to you to back up your claim.

 

I searched for Trump saying this, as I do care.  I could not find it, only quote-mined headlines.

[NoDisplayName]

9 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

Donald Trump is effectively a lame duck president

 

Trump a lame duck at the beginning of his second term?

Inconceivable!

 

I don' tink dat term mean what you tink it mean.

[Mavideol]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

For some reason he does not want to deport that South African multi-billionaire who owns X.

their love affair will come to an end soon enough 555

[Gecko123]

27 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Trump a lame duck at the beginning of his second term?

Inconceivable!

 

I don' tink dat term mean what you tink it mean.

 

You are quite correct.

 

lame duck:

an official (especially the president) in the final period of office, after the election of a successor.

 

However, in the sense that Trump has a cult-like following but can't be re-elected in four years, his power to dictate policy to the House (with a razor thin majority) and Senate is diminished. People will be looking towards a 2028 without the possibility of him being in the picture, and I believe that will change the political calculus for many Republicans.

[Mavideol]

3 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Voting for Trump once put their intelligence in doubt.

The second time proved it.

 

Dumb as rocks

the next post below your post it's the perfect example  555

[stevenl]

14 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

their love affair will come to an end soon enough 555

Disagree. He doesn't have to care about his supporters anymore, so will do what he can to make musk pay for services. Starting with more visa applicants coming through without meeting the official requirements so elon and vivek can make more money.

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

You're awesome. If you're not calling people dumb you're supporting others who do.

I only call people dumb who deserve it, using the evidence they post themselves.

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54 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Sadly for the left, I dont think he means we need more Tren de Aragua or fentanyl smugglers. He's talking about qualified LEGSL immigrants that bring benefits such as skills or entrepreneurship which creates jobs etc

 

Why o why cant the left distinguish between illegal and legal migration?

Really? 

Here's a quote from someone you may be familiar with. His name is Donald Trump:

"The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney in Florida when Americans were forced to train their foreign replacements. I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program."

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/statement-donald-j-trump-position-visas