These points reflect critiques from various perspectives and should be considered within the broader context of his presidency:

Domestic Policy Issues

1. Handling of Inflation:

   • Critics argue that Biden's administration underestimated the risks of inflation, particularly in the wake of substantial government spending through COVID-19 relief and stimulus measures like the American Rescue Plan.
   • Some claim that this contributed to rising costs of goods and services.

2. Immigration Policy:

   • The administration faced criticism over the ongoing situation at the U.S.-Mexico border. Opponents argue that Biden's reversal of Trump-era policies, such as the "Remain in Mexico" policy, led to a surge in migrant crossings.
   • Overcrowded detention facilities and delayed reforms to the immigration system were also points of concern.

3. Afghanistan Withdrawal:

   • The withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan in August 2021 was widely criticized for being poorly executed.
   • The sudden collapse of the Afghan government and the chaotic evacuation process, including the tragic Kabul airport attack, were seen as a failure in planning and coordination.

4. Student Loan Relief Program Challenges:

   • While praised by many, Biden’s student loan forgiveness plan faced legal challenges and was eventually struck down by the Supreme Court.
   • Critics argue the program lacked clarity on implementation and bypassed Congressional approval.

5. Energy Policy:

   • The administration's focus on transitioning to renewable energy was criticized for being too abrupt, particularly during a time of rising gas prices in 2022.
   • Biden faced accusations of mixed messaging, such as approving new oil leases while promoting clean energy initiatives.

6. COVID-19 Management:

   • While Biden’s administration expanded vaccine distribution, some critics argued the messaging around vaccine mandates, masking, and booster shots was inconsistent and divisive.

Foreign Policy Challenges

1. Relations with China:

   • Critics contend that Biden’s approach to managing tensions with China has been unclear, particularly concerning trade disputes, Taiwan, and human rights issues.
   • Some see his handling as either too confrontational or too lenient, depending on the political perspective.

2. Ukraine Conflict:

   • While Biden received praise for rallying NATO support against Russia's invasion of Ukraine, critics raised concerns about the high financial cost of U.S. military aid, arguing for greater transparency and strategy.

3. Iran Nuclear Deal:

   • Efforts to revive the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) faced delays and criticism from opponents who believe it is too lenient on Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Political and Communication Issues

1. Bipartisanship Struggles:

   • Despite promises to unify the country, Biden faced challenges bridging the partisan divide in Congress, with several legislative efforts stalling due to lack of Republican support.

2. Public Perception and Messaging:

   • Biden’s communication style, including gaffes and occasional lack of clarity, has been criticized for undermining confidence in his leadership.
   • Concerns about his age and stamina have fueled debates about his effectiveness.

3. Ethics and Transparency:

   • Ongoing scrutiny of Hunter Biden’s business dealings has raised questions about potential conflicts of interest, though no direct evidence implicates President Biden

---

 

 

Short answer, yes. 

 

He really got that much wrong.

 

 

Occasional lack of clarity ???

 

To put it mildly. There's dozens and dozens of videos on YouTube. 

 

Occasional hahaha 

Do you really get anthing wrong if you don't remember getting it wrong?

17 hours ago, Rimmer said:

These points reflect critiques from various perspectives and should be considered within the broader context of his presidency:

Domestic Policy Issues

1. Handling of Inflation:

   • Critics argue that Biden's administration underestimated the risks of inflation, particularly in the wake of substantial government spending through COVID-19 relief and stimulus measures like the American Rescue Plan.
   • Some claim that this contributed to rising costs of goods and services.

2. Immigration Policy:

   • The administration faced criticism over the ongoing situation at the U.S.-Mexico border. Opponents argue that Biden's reversal of Trump-era policies, such as the "Remain in Mexico" policy, led to a surge in migrant crossings.
   • Overcrowded detention facilities and delayed reforms to the immigration system were also points of concern.

3. Afghanistan Withdrawal:

   • The withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan in August 2021 was widely criticized for being poorly executed.
   • The sudden collapse of the Afghan government and the chaotic evacuation process, including the tragic Kabul airport attack, were seen as a failure in planning and coordination.

4. Student Loan Relief Program Challenges:

   • While praised by many, Biden’s student loan forgiveness plan faced legal challenges and was eventually struck down by the Supreme Court.
   • Critics argue the program lacked clarity on implementation and bypassed Congressional approval.

5. Energy Policy:

   • The administration's focus on transitioning to renewable energy was criticized for being too abrupt, particularly during a time of rising gas prices in 2022.
   • Biden faced accusations of mixed messaging, such as approving new oil leases while promoting clean energy initiatives.

6. COVID-19 Management:

   • While Biden’s administration expanded vaccine distribution, some critics argued the messaging around vaccine mandates, masking, and booster shots was inconsistent and divisive.

Foreign Policy Challenges

1. Relations with China:

   • Critics contend that Biden’s approach to managing tensions with China has been unclear, particularly concerning trade disputes, Taiwan, and human rights issues.
   • Some see his handling as either too confrontational or too lenient, depending on the political perspective.

2. Ukraine Conflict:

   • While Biden received praise for rallying NATO support against Russia's invasion of Ukraine, critics raised concerns about the high financial cost of U.S. military aid, arguing for greater transparency and strategy.

3. Iran Nuclear Deal:

   • Efforts to revive the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) faced delays and criticism from opponents who believe it is too lenient on Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Political and Communication Issues

1. Bipartisanship Struggles:

   • Despite promises to unify the country, Biden faced challenges bridging the partisan divide in Congress, with several legislative efforts stalling due to lack of Republican support.

2. Public Perception and Messaging:

   • Biden’s communication style, including gaffes and occasional lack of clarity, has been criticized for undermining confidence in his leadership.
   • Concerns about his age and stamina have fueled debates about his effectiveness.

3. Ethics and Transparency:

   • Ongoing scrutiny of Hunter Biden’s business dealings has raised questions about potential conflicts of interest, though no direct evidence implicates President Biden

---

 

 

Very well summarized, and all true. He and his party are going down as the worst. 

Just about every policy the Biden administration pursued was the opposite of rational, as though to deliberately ruin the country. A week to go and they’re still chopping and hacking at wrecking it.

What Joe got wrong was not stepping down sooner and allowing the party time to ballot for a better candidate other than Harris. 

19 hours ago, Rimmer said:

Ukraine Conflict:

• While Biden received praise for rallying NATO support against Russia's invasion of Ukraine...

What was the use of all that? Ukraine, NATO, and by extension the USA have lost this war, as bloody as it was pointless.

15 minutes ago, Pique Dard said:

What was the use of all that? Ukraine, NATO, and by extension the USA have lost this war, as bloody as it was pointless.

The war has made Russia toast. Win.

son brought the family millions of dollars with daddy's aid... clinton did the same... bush also...

4 hours ago, rwill said:

Do you really get anthing wrong if you don't remember getting it wrong?

 

I am a firm believer that Joe just signed the papers where mommy Jill told him to.

 

Things left out

 

the amount of infrastructure and weapons that were left behind in Afghanistan

 

The joblessness and crime that his immigration policy creted in cities

 

The financial crisis that his immigration policy created in sanctuary cities and states.

 

China policy that was easy  let them bend over and he kissed their rear because junior had so much money he owed them in 

 

Same with Ukraine Burisma

 

The biggestone though is we are not going to drillor explaore fir oil or NG but we will buy at huge prices from Iran and the middle east.

1 hour ago, Pique Dard said:

What was the use of all that? Ukraine, NATO, and by extension the USA have lost this war, as bloody as it was pointless.

 

Without the war I'm sure several other countries would be Russian territory by now.  A dictator like Vlad will never stop unless someone stands up to him.  The Russian army is now just a shadow of its former self and no longer a serious threat to other free countries. 

 

Thanks Ukraine

2 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

 

Without the war I'm sure several other countries would be Russian territory by now.  A dictator like Vlad will never stop unless someone stands up to him.  The Russian army is now just a shadow of its former self and no longer a serious threat to other free countries. 

 

Thanks Ukraine

 

Consider that under Biden as VP and Pres Russia took Crimea and possibly a large part of Ukraine.  

Also NK ramped up its nuclear arsenal  China has made huge statement in the Pacific Ocean and the U.s has done nothing.

 

A stronger U.S. that did not just walk out and show how weak it was in Afghanistan created the doubt tht the U.S. military and leaders were clueless.

 

Jpe did nothing in the Ukraine war except coninually putting money into it.  There were no talks there were no actioned threats.  

His biggest mistake was to make the timid Merrick Garland AĢ.

With a braver man Trump might well have been disqualified to run again and possibly in prison for all his crimes.

1 hour ago, Justanotherone said:

son brought the family millions of dollars with daddy's aid... clinton did the same... bush also...

 

But not Trump or his immediate family.....??

25 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

Jpe did nothing in the Ukraine war except coninually putting money into it.

 

You don't know much of anything about the war if that's what you believe.  The equipment, ammunition, training and intelligence sharing has far surpassed any money given to Ukraine.

58 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

 

Consider that under Biden as VP and Pres Russia took Crimea and possibly a large part of Ukraine.  

Also NK ramped up its nuclear arsenal  China has made huge statement in the Pacific Ocean and the U.s has done nothing.

 

A stronger U.S. that did not just walk out and show how weak it was in Afghanistan created the doubt tht the U.S. military and leaders were clueless.

 

Jpe did nothing in the Ukraine war except coninually putting money into it.  There were no talks there were no actioned threats.  

"A stronger U.S. that did not just walk out and show how weak it was in Afghanistan created the doubt tht the U.S. military and leaders were clueless."

 

Do you think a final and lasting "victory" in Afghanistan was right around the corner ?

I'm not convinced that staying longer was the answer.

35 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

 

You don't know much of anything about the war if that's what you believe.  The equipment, ammunition, training and intelligence sharing has far surpassed any money given to Ukraine.

 

Simple who paid for the equipment Ammunition training and intelligence.  It was all paid for by the American taxpayer

4 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

"A stronger U.S. that did not just walk out and show how weak it was in Afghanistan created the doubt tht the U.S. military and leaders were clueless."

 

Do you think a final and lasting "victory" in Afghanistan was right around the corner ?

I'm not convinced that staying longer was the answer.

God no it was a no win war.

 

The difference is in how they pulled out.  There is the panic withdrawl that leaves everything behind and leaves people confused.

 

Then there is planned and organized withdrawl that gets all the equipment and people out of the country safely.

 

Biden just said leave all the equipment behind and run.

 

Not the way to do it.  

 

Trump for all his faults was correct you want to withdraw but you want to do it in a way that you get as much and as many out safely.  

 

There was no plan as to how to suport the government or sfeguard those that helped the Forces.

He got virtually everything wrong. 

 

Then as his "piece de resistance" he let "Wine Mom Harris" run for President after promising to run himself, and pardoned his degenerate son having promised not to. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Jonnapat said:

His biggest mistake was to make the timid Merrick Garland AĢ.

With a braver man Trump might well have been disqualified to run again and possibly in prison for all his crimes.

 

Garland followed the law. You call him timid. I call him responsible and professional. The bravery is not  succumbing to the pressure of rushing to pursue Trump without  credible evidence. The MAGA collective also attacks him, but should be grateful that he  was unwilling to pursue a case without evidence.

I see 3 on the list he got wrong.

In no particular order...

 

1. Afghanistan withdrawal should have been better executed

2. Student loans...should have left that alone completely 

3. Immigration

 

The others are mostly party driven/subjective. They would have been questioned/opposed regardless how they were handled. Especially by The Republicans...The Party of "No". They oppose everything the Dems do...even if it's exactly what they want.

 

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Garland followed the law. You call him timid. I call him responsible and professional. The bravery is not  succumbing to the pressure of rushing to pursue Trump without  credible evidence. The MAGA collective also attacks him, but should be grateful that he  was unwilling to pursue a case without evidence.

I call him a bully for his memo instructing the DOJ to target and investigate concerned parents for harassment and intimidation.  Three years later the parent-silencing order has not been rescinded.

 

On 1/13/2025 at 2:05 PM, Rimmer said:

These points reflect critiques from various perspectives and should be considered within the broader context of his presidency:

Domestic Policy Issues

1. Handling of Inflation:

   • Critics argue that Biden's administration underestimated the risks of inflation, particularly in the wake of substantial government spending through COVID-19 relief and stimulus measures like the American Rescue Plan.
   • Some claim that this contributed to rising costs of goods and services.

2. Immigration Policy:

   • The administration faced criticism over the ongoing situation at the U.S.-Mexico border. Opponents argue that Biden's reversal of Trump-era policies, such as the "Remain in Mexico" policy, led to a surge in migrant crossings.
   • Overcrowded detention facilities and delayed reforms to the immigration system were also points of concern.

3. Afghanistan Withdrawal:

   • The withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan in August 2021 was widely criticized for being poorly executed.
   • The sudden collapse of the Afghan government and the chaotic evacuation process, including the tragic Kabul airport attack, were seen as a failure in planning and coordination.

4. Student Loan Relief Program Challenges:

   • While praised by many, Biden’s student loan forgiveness plan faced legal challenges and was eventually struck down by the Supreme Court.
   • Critics argue the program lacked clarity on implementation and bypassed Congressional approval.

5. Energy Policy:

   • The administration's focus on transitioning to renewable energy was criticized for being too abrupt, particularly during a time of rising gas prices in 2022.
   • Biden faced accusations of mixed messaging, such as approving new oil leases while promoting clean energy initiatives.

6. COVID-19 Management:

   • While Biden’s administration expanded vaccine distribution, some critics argued the messaging around vaccine mandates, masking, and booster shots was inconsistent and divisive.

Foreign Policy Challenges

1. Relations with China:

   • Critics contend that Biden’s approach to managing tensions with China has been unclear, particularly concerning trade disputes, Taiwan, and human rights issues.
   • Some see his handling as either too confrontational or too lenient, depending on the political perspective.

2. Ukraine Conflict:

   • While Biden received praise for rallying NATO support against Russia's invasion of Ukraine, critics raised concerns about the high financial cost of U.S. military aid, arguing for greater transparency and strategy.

3. Iran Nuclear Deal:

   • Efforts to revive the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) faced delays and criticism from opponents who believe it is too lenient on Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Political and Communication Issues

1. Bipartisanship Struggles:

   • Despite promises to unify the country, Biden faced challenges bridging the partisan divide in Congress, with several legislative efforts stalling due to lack of Republican support.

2. Public Perception and Messaging:

   • Biden’s communication style, including gaffes and occasional lack of clarity, has been criticized for undermining confidence in his leadership.
   • Concerns about his age and stamina have fueled debates about his effectiveness.

3. Ethics and Transparency:

   • Ongoing scrutiny of Hunter Biden’s business dealings has raised questions about potential conflicts of interest, though no direct evidence implicates President Biden

---

 

 

Pretty biased outline. Easy to leave out many of these initiatives were started under Trump or needed to be corrected or acted on. 

 

Also hard to blame him for lack of the GOP support as they have been consistently lacking in trying to work with dems on pretty much anything and everything. I'm not claiming he was a shining star but he did what was expected and that was to calm the trump Era issues down to something  resembling normalcy again. 

On 1/13/2025 at 2:05 PM, Rimmer said:

Handling of Inflation

Lower wage workers actually had incomes that were more than double what they were when accounting for unemployment insurance 

 

“Unemployed Americans will continue receiving $300 in federal money in addition to their weekly state unemployment checks.”
 

https://www.debt.org/blog/covid-19-unemployment-benefits/

 

And rent moratoriums on top of that.

 

Gee…ya think this might have contributed to inflation?  Don’t even need to talk about 2% mortgages driving up housing costs.

 

On 1/13/2025 at 2:05 PM, Rimmer said:

Immigration Policy:

• The administration faced criticism over the ongoing situation at the U.S.-Mexico border. Opponents argue that Biden's reversal of Trump-era policies, such as the "Remain in Mexico" policy, led to a surge in migrant crossings.
• Overcrowded detention facilities and delayed reforms to the immigration system were also points of concern.

How about the 4 star hotels the immigrants were housed in?  And the generous cash payments to the undocumented….aka illegal….immigrants?

 

All while the homeless population in the US continued to rise.

 

On 1/13/2025 at 2:05 PM, Rimmer said:

Afghanistan Withdrawal:

• The withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan in August 2021 was widely criticized for being poorly executed.
• The sudden collapse of the Afghan government and the chaotic evacuation process, including the tragic Kabul airport attack, were seen as a failure in planning and coordination.

No mention of all the billions of dollars worth of military equipment left behind?

 

”More than $7.1 billion in U.S.-funded military equipment was in the possession of the Afghan government when it fell to the Taliban in August 2021 amid the withdrawal, according to a Defense Department report published last August. Though more than half of it was ground vehicles, it also included more than 316,000 weapons worth almost $512 million, plus ammunition and other accessories.”

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-weapons-afghanistan-taliban-kashmir-rcna67134
 

On 1/13/2025 at 2:05 PM, Rimmer said:

Student Loan Relief Program Challenges:

• While praised by many, Biden’s student loan forgiveness plan faced legal challenges and was eventually struck down by the Supreme Court.
• Critics argue the program lacked clarity on implementation and bypassed Congressional approval.

Had the Obama/Biden regime not handed out student loans like candy during their time in office, encouraging so many people to go into debt for an unnecessary degree, this wouldn’t be as much of an issue.  Those degrees were more detrimental to the children in the long run rather than helpful or useful.

 

High schools should have never gotten rid of shop classes and professions such as plumbing, hvac, electricians and other building trades should have been held in higher esteem than the stupid useless degrees many students pursued.

 

On 1/13/2025 at 2:05 PM, Rimmer said:

Energy Policy:

 

How much does a gallon of gas cost now?

 

How much have peoples electric and gas utility bills increased in the last 4 years?

 

On 1/13/2025 at 2:05 PM, Rimmer said:

COVID-19 Management:

How’d that “winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated” work out?

 

LOL!

As an American myself yes he, and the Biden Crime Family,  YES!!!...

8 hours ago, Phillip9 said:

 

Without the war I'm sure several other countries would be Russian territory by now.  A dictator like Vlad will never stop unless someone stands up to him.  The Russian army is now just a shadow of its former self and no longer a serious threat to other free countries. 

 

Thanks Ukraine

 

I doubt the Russian army was ever what it was made out to be. It proved to be pretty useless from the very beginning. They failed to take the strategically essential airfields due to Ukrainian tactics and stunning bravery and patriotism. And look at all those unfortunate tankies cooped up in their metal boxes on the road to Kyiv - willing Javelin bait. Having to beg N.Korean troops two years later for your stumbling meat grinder isn't a sign of military prowess either. 

 

One thing is for certain, Russia won't even cast a sideways glance at the Baltic states or any other NATO state for the foreseeable future after the Ukraine debacle. That even though  Ukraine's forces are not even fully fledged NATO forces. They've merely had a modicum of NATO training and been given a few of our less potent weapons systems, backed presumably by some intelligence but limited in range. They've completely humiliated the Russians in every single aspect of warfare from the high command right the way down to the trenches.

 

Besides that the Baltics are now backed by 'tripwire' NATO brigades and more importantly Finland close by and Sweden - now both full NATO members. Talk about the law of unintended consequences. The 'Special Military Operation' ('the troops'll be home by Christmas folks' - just like Kaiser Wilhelm's boys in 1914) has been a complete failure on all fronts.

 

Russia can barely make incremental gains and then only by gratuitously sacrificing tens of thousands of its young mens' lives. The burden of caring for hundreds of thousands of disabled and invalid men and women will be incalculable. They will also be lost to reconstruction as much as those who had the nous and means to flee are gone.

The land Russia's acquired while drenching it in its soldiers' blood is basically a burden. Former coal mining territory largely populated by pensioners and laid ruin to by war. Crimea has been  neutralized as a naval asset. Add to that the prospect of years of well equipped, motivated and financed guerrilla warfare resistance in any further territorial gains.

 

The Russian economy was about the size of the Italian economy at the start of the SMO. It's  been ramped up to something larger now, but in reality purely because Putin's had to transform it into a war economy which is not sustainable. The numbers (GDP, productivity etc.) might look good, but you can't eat bullets and it all goes at the cost of the civilian sectors including consumers.

 

No-one outside of Russia would even consider buying a ruble - the exchange rate exists by Putin's decree and is even so at an all time low. Interest rates hover at around 20% to counter raging inflation.

 

The shadow tankers and forcing the country's companies to onshore foreign currency revenues are signs of weakness not vitality.

 

Globally Russia has become China's vassal and Beijing isn't overly happy with it nowadays.

 

I suspect the only reason Putin is still in office has less to do with his fabled powers as a spy and ruthless gangster, and much more to do with noone else in Moscow being willing to pick up the poison chalice he's leaving behind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

The difference is in how they pulled out.

 

The pull out method has worked well for so many men over history. 🤣

Perhaps we have an expert in the Forum who can tell us how they would have withdrawn from Afghanistan.

 

The folks who now run the country were in jail until 45 released 5000 Taliban prisoners. Most were battle-hardened jihadis, and quite likely they were involved in the airport attack. Had the withdrawal been protracted, both US soldiers and contractors would be targets in a turkey shoot. How many would all you MAGAs have been willing to sacrifice? When soldiers are in harm's way, invariably some get killed. Just like in Mali under 45.

 

As for migrants, please post the numbers on illegal entrants under 45 vs under Biden. Even if things were done wrong, one of you MAGAs might explain why 45 called SotH Johnson to kill the Republican-written Border Bill, which Biden would have signed. 45 is a self-serving hypocrite, who cares more abouty re-election (to stay out of jail) than actual security. Remember he stole thousands of highly classified documents and kept them in his country club. He really cares about US security? Please, only idiots believe that.

 

Biden brought NATO back together again to stop Putin's aggression in Ukraine. That was the right thing to do.

 

Biden got a bipartisan infrastructure bill passed, rather than perpetually claim "Net week is Infrastructure Week".

 

As for inflation, the combo of the R-led ta cut, endless deficits, and Covid created the kindling for that. Inflation is not brought down in a day, and requires many measures, including Fed policy. The US under Biden did better and was faster getting it down than any other nation...and inflation was worldwide.

 

Under Biden, the US recovered from Covid, the Recession left behind by 45, and the 6.8% unemployment 45 left behind, quite quickly, growing from 2020 at 3 times the rate of the average G7 nation. Noting the damage from supply chain disruptions during Covid, Biden presided over the creation of 800,000 new manufacturing jobs in the US, plus breaking ground on the first new US chip plants in 40 years.

 

As for energy, Biden did not send mixed messages; he took a realistic and long term approach that considered both fossil fuels and new tech (45's bestie Musk rather likes new tech, such as electric cars). The result was that the US now produces more energy than it consumes, and still has over 9000 approved drilling leases nobody has chosen to take.

 

45 was the first President since Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans working than when he entered; under Biden more jobs were created than under any President, and during his time the US saw more consecutive months of UE under 4% than any time in the last 64 years.

 

All that is not bad for a man facing the onslaught of old age, and what Biden accomplished dwarfs anything 45 did.

 

I do take exception to the student loan forgiveness, and would have preferred---if one is to do it at all---that it come with a requirement for public service. I also am critical of him pardoning his son. I understand a man who lost one son to cancer, and who has little time left, would want to do what he did, but I still do not approve.

 

Bottom line is Biden inherited an absolute mess from 45, and he will leave with the economy still going gangbusters, the equity market still strong, the labor market overheating it's so strong, a rebuilt NATO, the Russian economy close to collapse, US infrastructure on the mend, and the US respected around the world, save for the fever swamps of MAGA-stan.

 

I guarantee the next 4 years will be far worse.