Marriage certificate

[jori123]

I want to marry my girlfriend of many a year,Thai.   ..for reason of receiving half my public sector pension when I die,she can stay in th Hu,myself will visit.just need advise to which h way to go

 

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[Upnotover]

Probably best to start with you embassy website, most of them have details of what you need to do.  For certain you will need some document from them to prove that you are eligible to marry.  From there on it's easy.

[jori123]

21 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

Probably best to start with you embassy website, most of them have details of what you need to do.  For certain you will need some document from them to prove that you are eligible to marry.  From there on it's easy.

Great thanks,had that doc for some time,only diagnosed and treated back in UK for cancer makes it a hurry up exercise 

[Upnotover]

4 minutes ago, jori123 said:

Great thanks,had that doc for some time,only diagnosed and treated back in UK for cancer makes it a hurry up exercise 

Ah OK, hopefully there is not short time limit on it, then it's get it translated and off to MFA to be certified. Then your amphur will tell you what else they want, but ought not be onerous.

[jojothai]

If you want to marry in UK then you need to look at uk requirements notification period etc, where you can do it. 

The lady has to be with you in UK , both for notification and the marriage.

Then certification afterwards for recognition in Thailand if necessary. Best to get a UK marriage certificate legalised and translation certified by Thai Embassy in UK.
Some Amphur's may require that to get registered in Thailand . Mine in Prachuap asked about it , showed us an example, but still processed the Khorsor22 registration ok with just the uk marriage certificate and a certified translation.
However you are still required to be both together at the amphur for the registry.
Surely it will be quicker and easier if you can get married in Thailand and registered immediately.

 

Both options to get registered in Thailand depend if you can fly, if you are on cancer treatment unfortunately maybe not.

If you cannot, then surely its best to do the first alternative and trust that the will is done and very clear.

Best wishes that you can get this processed quickly.

[UKresonant]

On 1/31/2025 at 10:55 AM, jori123 said:

I want to marry my girlfriend of many a year,Thai.   ..for reason of receiving half my public sector pension when I die,she can stay in th Hu,myself will visit.just need advise to which h way to go

 

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Many public sector pensions allow a nominated partner to recieve a widows pension now. (I think the clause that, if they marry subsequently after getting the survivors pension they loose it, is still there somewhere))

 

Attempt to put a nomination to the scheme admin, soon as, and pursue the marraige subject separately. 

 

The other big chunk of my pension (classed as  a company pemsion) has a witnessed copy of the wife's Thai docs in my pension file.

[michael888]

In process atm.  Make sure to bring a copy of fiance's ID to MFA.  Was unaware of this and I was almost 

sabotaged.  Had a photo of it by chance, they let me use that.  

[prakhonchai nick]

Most UK occupational pension funds will pay a pension to a partner, akin to a widow's  pension.  Best to advise them early on of the partner. It can be quite a problem proving a partnership existed after death.  Note many pension funds reduce the pension paid to wife/partner if she is more than 10 years younger. Often 2.5% for each year over 10

[michael888]

On 4/8/2025 at 3:08 PM, michael888 said:

In process atm.  Make sure to bring a copy of fiance's ID to MFA.  Was unaware of this and I was almost 

sabotaged.  Had a photo of it by chance, they let me use that.  

Also, fyi - 2 month wait at all amphurs in Bangkok.  

[omegaman]

On 1/31/2025 at 9:55 PM, jori123 said:

I want to marry my girlfriend of many a year,Thai.   ..for reason of receiving half my public sector pension when I die,she can stay in th Hu,myself will visit.just need advise to which h way to go

 

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It depends on the welfare laws of your home country.  If your home country allows you widow to benefit, the, make sure your marriage is registered in your home country, and you have a will at home that declares her as your sole benificary, a bank account in her name etc.

 

As suggested, speak to YOUR embassy in Thailand.

 

[hotandsticky]

2 minutes ago, omegaman said:

It depends on the welfare laws of your home country.  If your home country allows you widow to benefit, the, make sure your marriage is registered in your home country, and you have a will at home that declares her as your sole benificary, a bank account in her name etc.

 

As suggested, speak to YOUR embassy in Thailand.

 

 

 

Nothing to do with welfare, the question relates to occupational pension.

 

The OP is from the UK there is no welfare due to his widow upon his death.

 

 

As @prakhonchai nick said, many pension funds will accept a nomination. Mine did 15 years ago and we are not married. The 20 year age difference mean s that she loses 10% of the 50% Widows pension. Note - that 50% is based on the pension BEFORE I took my lump sum.

 

 

Widows occupational pension benefits are an enormously valuable thing to the Thai partners we leave behind - often overlooked.  I retired early and took my pension at age 52. My partner will get around 45,000 Baht a month.

[omegaman]

Just now, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Nothing to do with welfare, the question relates to occupational pension.

 

The OP is from the UK there is no welfare due to his widow upon his death.

 

 

As @prakhonchai nick said, many pension funds will accept a nomination. Mine did 15 years ago and we are not married. The 20 year age difference mean s that she loses 10% of the 50% Widows pension. Note - that 50% is based on the pension BEFORE I took my lump sum.

 

 

Widows occupational pension benefits are an enormously valuable thing to the Thai partners we leave behind - often overlooked.  I retired early and took my pension at age 52. My partner will get around 45,000 Baht a month.

Maybe in the UK.  Other countries differ.  In Australia I quote ' When your partner dies, we need to reassess your income and assets. To stay eligible for Age Pension you need to meet the thresholds as a single person.'  You can't generalise.

[hotandsticky]

30 minutes ago, omegaman said:

Maybe in the UK.  Other countries differ.  In Australia I quote ' When your partner dies, we need to reassess your income and assets. To stay eligible for Age Pension you need to meet the thresholds as a single person.'  You can't generalise.

 

 

Then create a separate thread about it.

 

 

This thread is about a UK resident.

 

 

That is how the forum works.